TLDR: I spent forty days from late July 2013 exploring and comparing the female talent in EE and give maximum concentration of talent ratings and comparisons of each city that I felt I got an accurate impression of. I know I went during the dry season and take this into account, but to me there is still value in my comparisons.
I had been planning on exploring Greece and Russia for many years, and thanks to Scotian hooking me up with a great Snow Shovelling job I was finally able to realize that dream. Unfortunately, because of the heavy Visa restrictions, I had to give Russia a miss this time and replaced it with most of the rest of Eastern Europe during my planned fifty day stay. My priorities were to secure epic pictures and perform reconnaissance on the female talent residing in each city, while hitting what great museums and restaurants I could along my way through nineteen major cities. I spend way too much time researching and comparing smartphones, so I thought why not apply the same process to something much more important: women. I liked to think that Calgary and Canadian girls were great, but I did not know for sure. This is my journey about how wrong I was even during the EE dry season in the Summer. Hopefully it can give you guys a good impression and comparison.
The original plan was to stay in each major EE city for two days, and then spend the last week in my overall favorite city. As a novice with maybe forty solid direct approaches, I could not see myself getting same day lays except via nightgame, which I had given up on last year. So very quickly I got greedy and decided that if I minimized the time I spent in each city, I could extend the time spent in my favorite city to maybe two weeks or a week in my favorite two cities and thus maximize my chances of success. This ended up with me spending just one day in most of the cities I hit, though I found that doing so helped me contrast the levels of talent much more objectively with multiple cities being vividly fresh in my mind. Unfortunately, doing so also took its toll on my body and combined with a mild Polish virus, it burned me out with illness and I had to leave ten days early.
This brings up an important point: can I give accurate ratings to a city if I am only there for a day or less? I say that since I made it my priority to do so, then yes, I can and did get accurate pictures of most of the cities I visited, with the ones I was uncertain of being left out of the comparison here. For example it only took two hours of walking around downtown Bucharest for me to get an accurate reading of the talent levels and know that I had to return there for at least a week or two at some point. On the other hand I scoured Berlin for two days and found only a handful of prospects. It is much easier to give an accurate rating when the talent concentration is good. Also how do I rate a city: by average quality and quantity or by maximum concentration of talent? I would say concentration is king, since if we are smart we will be going to (and living near) the areas of high concentration anyways. That is what my Q ratings (out of 10) are referring to: maximum concentration of talent during day or night, not necessarily how easy they are to game and bang.
Here are the cities I am rating in the order I visited them (I am being very short with descriptions to not overinflate this post, though I can expand later):
Calgary: Before I left it was Q 8. After Eastern Europe, I revised it to Q 6.
Athens: Q 8 Packed with quality, quantity, and variety. Easier to approach than Canadians, though very difficult to extract number or even facebook.
Hersonosis: Q 7 Very hot girls, though saturation was lower than expected.
Paralia: Q 7.3 Again, very hot girls, but a higher concentration during the right hours. Downside was high concentration of Serb girls that would not give me the time of day (or night).
Bucharest: Q 8 Latin look not my preference, but I can’t argue with quality and quantity. Also the first time in life that I had been given the full down-up inspection by multiple 8.5+ girls. It only took me a walk past the mall and West of the University for me to realize that I must return for at least a week or two at some point.
Odessa: Q 8.4 I remember one evening in the downtown area, every single 10-ft sidewalk slab ahead of me had a girl with a model figure walking on it as if it were a catwalk. Highest quality and quantity thus far in the trip, but only 2 of my 8 day approaches spoke barely passable English. This was common throughout the rest of my stay there with the great majority of the population requiring Russian.
Kiev: Q 8.5 Surprisingly good for the Summer, when I had heard it would be empty. Quality and quantity very high. The complete language inversion of Odessa, with the great majority speaking good English. Ten of the hottest twelve girls I saw were walking arm in arm with some random short fat balding man at least in his late 40s. I don’t know if this is a great thing or a bad thing. Chernobyl was great, even without the women.
Tallinn: Q 7.7 Girls were pretty and approachable. One in particular gave me the most obvious gesture of relief that said “Finally! I have been waiting for a guy to talk to me all day.” Night venue recommendations on this forum are outdated. Just play it by ear and follow the talent.
Warsaw: Q 8.5 Warsaw gets a bad reputation on here for some reason. I found that even in the dry season, Warsaw girls were juicy and plentiful. Even later on when I was ill and trying to avoid the talent while on quick 5 min food runs, there would usually be at least one 8 in sight (this was in a very good area). They were also among the most approachable girls I have ever met (about equal with Poznan). Almost every direct day approach led to a conversation, with almost zero immediate rejections. They may have a reputation of not being easy to bang quickly via dating, but they sure are easy to talk to and forgiving of my mistakes. Unfortunately the girls here gave me a mild sickness that my schedule snowballed into a massive burnout later.
Krakow: Q? Horribly touristy in the summer, with the image of stag parties pissing on everything being burned into my brain. Not a single soul on the campus during the week. I will have to revisit during Oct-Apr.
Wroclaw: Q? Like a much less touristy Krakow, but still rather sparse in the Summer. I will also return here during the school season.
Poznan: Q 8.5 Great even in the Summer, but while it may achieve concentration parity with Warsaw, Warsaw is a much bigger city with more areas of similar concentration to blitzkrieg. I will say that I saw and approached the hottest girl of my entire trip here. Also the male cockblocking is MUCH worse here than in Warsaw, though it can always be tackled.
Berlin: Q 2 Not joking. It is that bad. Huge disappointment on every level except for the German History Museum. I now understand why Polish girls consider it a grave insult to be compared to German girls. The hottest girl I approached there turned out to be Mexican. There were a couple other 8s that I hit outside of Alexanderplatz, but the concentration is total shit.
Dresden: Q 1 I was walking around town and then later partying with a friend for 7 hours. In that time the hottest girl I saw was a 7.9. The 2nd hottest was a 6.6. I talked with both and fell in love with their sense of humour. It is their only redeeming quality. I also got surprisingly far with sick game, about 20 mins with the 6.6 while trying to hide my coughing and find a way to dispose of the accumulating phlegm in my hand. After this night I stopped approaching until I got back to Warsaw.
Prague: Q? Disneyland level tourism. I could not tell who was Czech, and when I went out to a few of the recommended venues listed here I found only 3 cute and taken Czech girls. I was told this much here, but I had to see for myself. Though I will say it is a very fun city if you are into the whole hostel party scene (not my priority this trip).
Vienna: Q 6.5 Unlike the inferior Germans, the Austrians are the true master (Germanic) race when it comes to concentration of pretty girls. Surprisingly good quality and quantity in the day. The food is tasty and the city is well planned as well. The girls reminded me of Calgary girls, but with more surrounding flak towers.
Ostrava: Q 9 A ghost town in the day, but its two short blocks of nightlife packs the highest concentration of quality girls I have ever seen. I remember having to duck into a side street because my head kept on exploding trying to process this. The venues are small and numerous with poor layouts, so the best strategy would likely be to get good at gutter game and just stick to approaching the hundred or so 8s and 9s outside of the venues. I just don't have the best impression of the percentage that can speak English, perhaps Kamaki can clarify this.
Montreal: Q 6.2 For North American comparison purposes, I hit Montreal on a Saturday right after I came back. One huge difference I noticed is the complete lack of 7s. Girls here are either invisible, yeah, or hell yes. There are few solid 7s like in EE. I am not sure if this is because every girl in EE equally puts in the effort to look good, whereas girls here either know they are hot and try to push it further or know they are ok and don’t put in any effort, creating a gap. Or perhaps 7s are more susceptible to getting fat, unlike the natural 8s and 9s with better genetics and metabolism. Who knows?
My conclusions: In terms of quality and quantity, EE women are not superior to NA women, they are RIDICULOUSLY superior to NA women. The clubs were also usually much more logistically friendly than the Canadian clubs I have been to, which led to me giving nightgame a second chance. Though I will say that Canadian girls are still probably easier and can be taken with less effort and investment, but ease is their only advantage (to me, German girls actually best them for fun conversation and humour). EE girls lack the masculine toxins that girls here accumulate. This trip has turned me around and opened my eyes to what we are now missing on this continent. Even when EE girls gave me attitude, it was still in a very girly way. NA girls are just slowing transforming into the loud fat guy at the party, and while I actually don’t mind that guy, I don’t want to date him.
Also I would say my biggest mistake was not pipelining. With 24 hrs in most cities, having some guaranteed dates would have helped me get an even better impression of each city and given me much higher chances of success without relying on nightgame.
I plan on returning to the best cities during the optimal Oct-April seasons, and also hit up the cities I missed during the dry Summer: Plzen and Lvov. I also still want to spend a month in Moscow. Ideally I will do this when I get to 3000 words of Russian (~400 right now), a 5 plate squat, and 1000 combined approaches, but I am not sure if my patience will hold out against my desire.
Thanks for your help everyone that posted datasheets, books, comments, and PMed me regarding the cities and countries here.
I had been planning on exploring Greece and Russia for many years, and thanks to Scotian hooking me up with a great Snow Shovelling job I was finally able to realize that dream. Unfortunately, because of the heavy Visa restrictions, I had to give Russia a miss this time and replaced it with most of the rest of Eastern Europe during my planned fifty day stay. My priorities were to secure epic pictures and perform reconnaissance on the female talent residing in each city, while hitting what great museums and restaurants I could along my way through nineteen major cities. I spend way too much time researching and comparing smartphones, so I thought why not apply the same process to something much more important: women. I liked to think that Calgary and Canadian girls were great, but I did not know for sure. This is my journey about how wrong I was even during the EE dry season in the Summer. Hopefully it can give you guys a good impression and comparison.
The original plan was to stay in each major EE city for two days, and then spend the last week in my overall favorite city. As a novice with maybe forty solid direct approaches, I could not see myself getting same day lays except via nightgame, which I had given up on last year. So very quickly I got greedy and decided that if I minimized the time I spent in each city, I could extend the time spent in my favorite city to maybe two weeks or a week in my favorite two cities and thus maximize my chances of success. This ended up with me spending just one day in most of the cities I hit, though I found that doing so helped me contrast the levels of talent much more objectively with multiple cities being vividly fresh in my mind. Unfortunately, doing so also took its toll on my body and combined with a mild Polish virus, it burned me out with illness and I had to leave ten days early.
This brings up an important point: can I give accurate ratings to a city if I am only there for a day or less? I say that since I made it my priority to do so, then yes, I can and did get accurate pictures of most of the cities I visited, with the ones I was uncertain of being left out of the comparison here. For example it only took two hours of walking around downtown Bucharest for me to get an accurate reading of the talent levels and know that I had to return there for at least a week or two at some point. On the other hand I scoured Berlin for two days and found only a handful of prospects. It is much easier to give an accurate rating when the talent concentration is good. Also how do I rate a city: by average quality and quantity or by maximum concentration of talent? I would say concentration is king, since if we are smart we will be going to (and living near) the areas of high concentration anyways. That is what my Q ratings (out of 10) are referring to: maximum concentration of talent during day or night, not necessarily how easy they are to game and bang.
Here are the cities I am rating in the order I visited them (I am being very short with descriptions to not overinflate this post, though I can expand later):
Calgary: Before I left it was Q 8. After Eastern Europe, I revised it to Q 6.
Athens: Q 8 Packed with quality, quantity, and variety. Easier to approach than Canadians, though very difficult to extract number or even facebook.
Hersonosis: Q 7 Very hot girls, though saturation was lower than expected.
Paralia: Q 7.3 Again, very hot girls, but a higher concentration during the right hours. Downside was high concentration of Serb girls that would not give me the time of day (or night).
Bucharest: Q 8 Latin look not my preference, but I can’t argue with quality and quantity. Also the first time in life that I had been given the full down-up inspection by multiple 8.5+ girls. It only took me a walk past the mall and West of the University for me to realize that I must return for at least a week or two at some point.
Odessa: Q 8.4 I remember one evening in the downtown area, every single 10-ft sidewalk slab ahead of me had a girl with a model figure walking on it as if it were a catwalk. Highest quality and quantity thus far in the trip, but only 2 of my 8 day approaches spoke barely passable English. This was common throughout the rest of my stay there with the great majority of the population requiring Russian.
Kiev: Q 8.5 Surprisingly good for the Summer, when I had heard it would be empty. Quality and quantity very high. The complete language inversion of Odessa, with the great majority speaking good English. Ten of the hottest twelve girls I saw were walking arm in arm with some random short fat balding man at least in his late 40s. I don’t know if this is a great thing or a bad thing. Chernobyl was great, even without the women.
Tallinn: Q 7.7 Girls were pretty and approachable. One in particular gave me the most obvious gesture of relief that said “Finally! I have been waiting for a guy to talk to me all day.” Night venue recommendations on this forum are outdated. Just play it by ear and follow the talent.
Warsaw: Q 8.5 Warsaw gets a bad reputation on here for some reason. I found that even in the dry season, Warsaw girls were juicy and plentiful. Even later on when I was ill and trying to avoid the talent while on quick 5 min food runs, there would usually be at least one 8 in sight (this was in a very good area). They were also among the most approachable girls I have ever met (about equal with Poznan). Almost every direct day approach led to a conversation, with almost zero immediate rejections. They may have a reputation of not being easy to bang quickly via dating, but they sure are easy to talk to and forgiving of my mistakes. Unfortunately the girls here gave me a mild sickness that my schedule snowballed into a massive burnout later.
Krakow: Q? Horribly touristy in the summer, with the image of stag parties pissing on everything being burned into my brain. Not a single soul on the campus during the week. I will have to revisit during Oct-Apr.
Wroclaw: Q? Like a much less touristy Krakow, but still rather sparse in the Summer. I will also return here during the school season.
Poznan: Q 8.5 Great even in the Summer, but while it may achieve concentration parity with Warsaw, Warsaw is a much bigger city with more areas of similar concentration to blitzkrieg. I will say that I saw and approached the hottest girl of my entire trip here. Also the male cockblocking is MUCH worse here than in Warsaw, though it can always be tackled.
Berlin: Q 2 Not joking. It is that bad. Huge disappointment on every level except for the German History Museum. I now understand why Polish girls consider it a grave insult to be compared to German girls. The hottest girl I approached there turned out to be Mexican. There were a couple other 8s that I hit outside of Alexanderplatz, but the concentration is total shit.
Dresden: Q 1 I was walking around town and then later partying with a friend for 7 hours. In that time the hottest girl I saw was a 7.9. The 2nd hottest was a 6.6. I talked with both and fell in love with their sense of humour. It is their only redeeming quality. I also got surprisingly far with sick game, about 20 mins with the 6.6 while trying to hide my coughing and find a way to dispose of the accumulating phlegm in my hand. After this night I stopped approaching until I got back to Warsaw.
Prague: Q? Disneyland level tourism. I could not tell who was Czech, and when I went out to a few of the recommended venues listed here I found only 3 cute and taken Czech girls. I was told this much here, but I had to see for myself. Though I will say it is a very fun city if you are into the whole hostel party scene (not my priority this trip).
Vienna: Q 6.5 Unlike the inferior Germans, the Austrians are the true master (Germanic) race when it comes to concentration of pretty girls. Surprisingly good quality and quantity in the day. The food is tasty and the city is well planned as well. The girls reminded me of Calgary girls, but with more surrounding flak towers.
Ostrava: Q 9 A ghost town in the day, but its two short blocks of nightlife packs the highest concentration of quality girls I have ever seen. I remember having to duck into a side street because my head kept on exploding trying to process this. The venues are small and numerous with poor layouts, so the best strategy would likely be to get good at gutter game and just stick to approaching the hundred or so 8s and 9s outside of the venues. I just don't have the best impression of the percentage that can speak English, perhaps Kamaki can clarify this.
Montreal: Q 6.2 For North American comparison purposes, I hit Montreal on a Saturday right after I came back. One huge difference I noticed is the complete lack of 7s. Girls here are either invisible, yeah, or hell yes. There are few solid 7s like in EE. I am not sure if this is because every girl in EE equally puts in the effort to look good, whereas girls here either know they are hot and try to push it further or know they are ok and don’t put in any effort, creating a gap. Or perhaps 7s are more susceptible to getting fat, unlike the natural 8s and 9s with better genetics and metabolism. Who knows?
My conclusions: In terms of quality and quantity, EE women are not superior to NA women, they are RIDICULOUSLY superior to NA women. The clubs were also usually much more logistically friendly than the Canadian clubs I have been to, which led to me giving nightgame a second chance. Though I will say that Canadian girls are still probably easier and can be taken with less effort and investment, but ease is their only advantage (to me, German girls actually best them for fun conversation and humour). EE girls lack the masculine toxins that girls here accumulate. This trip has turned me around and opened my eyes to what we are now missing on this continent. Even when EE girls gave me attitude, it was still in a very girly way. NA girls are just slowing transforming into the loud fat guy at the party, and while I actually don’t mind that guy, I don’t want to date him.
Also I would say my biggest mistake was not pipelining. With 24 hrs in most cities, having some guaranteed dates would have helped me get an even better impression of each city and given me much higher chances of success without relying on nightgame.
I plan on returning to the best cities during the optimal Oct-April seasons, and also hit up the cities I missed during the dry Summer: Plzen and Lvov. I also still want to spend a month in Moscow. Ideally I will do this when I get to 3000 words of Russian (~400 right now), a 5 plate squat, and 1000 combined approaches, but I am not sure if my patience will hold out against my desire.
Thanks for your help everyone that posted datasheets, books, comments, and PMed me regarding the cities and countries here.
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Old town is nice but beware or rip off bars. Prices in regular bars/clubs/restaurants are reasonable. Check out coyote Fly club in facebook...photos section.