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09-21-2013, 04:27 AM
Sounds like BS if hes getting isolated makeouts and not getting laid.
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09-21-2013, 04:34 AM
I saw this thread linked on Nigel's Big Game twitter. Do you follow Nigel?
My thought is that he should probably hide his thin physique with (tailored) clothing that suggests he's bigger than he is. I'm tall but not terribly muscular, and I do much better when I'm wearing a button down shirt and hopefully a blazer than I do when I'm wearing a t-shirt.
He's a reasonably decent looking gent. He basically looks like Tyler Durden who apparently gets a decent amount of trim although I have no idea how. GLL game is pretty caveman and he probably looks pretty incongruent with his build.
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09-21-2013, 06:20 AM
It's always hard to identify the skeeve factor. Who knows what it was.
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09-21-2013, 06:22 AM
I think telling him he needs to lift is BS. It's not like he's a Holocaust victim or anorexically thin. There are plenty of skinny guys who can get laid easily. For Christ' sake, it's not like you've gotta be the Rock or Vin Diesel to pull. If he can't get laid once out of five hundred approaches it's more than his physique that needs fixing.
I don't think high standards can really be to blame, either. Even if they are, approach 500 9s and I think even the most socially awkward of us would strike gold at least once.
I suspect it's something about the way he comes across, maybe his vibe. That's the only thing I can possibly guess -- either that or he's been approaching in rural India this whole time.
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09-21-2013, 07:55 AM
He could just have bad logistics. Maybe his apartment is way out of the way or he still lives at home and the girls he made out with live with their parents. It could be as simple as that. He may not be experienced enough to get the girls to give it up in his car.
Anyway, a few makeouts out of 500 girls isn't very good. He doesn't have good game yet, but he's learning presumably. Probably he can coast by on his looks and by copying GLL's shtick but the longer they spend time with him, the more he loses attraction.
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09-21-2013, 08:40 AM
I skimmed the thread and the guy comes off as super desperate.
He talks about going out for 11 hours hitting on chicks, thinking about roids and jaw-surgery. It seems like he has his whole life focussed on getting laid.
IMO he needs to take a setp back on focus on things he really wants to do. I mean do you REALLY want to run around all day hitting on chicks? I have a hard time believing that.
I have been in a similar positon like him where I was running around all day hitting on girls, studying pickup material, tweaking my game plan and I was striking out left and right and getting more and more frustrated (though I was getting at least SOME pussy here and there). I kept thinking if only I get laid all the time I would be happy and content with my life. But even when I was getting laid I realized that this is not the kind of live I want to live. I want other things in life, of course a lot of pussy too but thats not it.
Since then Ive taken a step back and started focussing on stuff I really want in my life. Now girls arent even a priority for me, tbh I hardly have time for chasing chicks. And I really dont care because if I reach my goal I will move to a pussy paradise and be drowning in pretty young girls anway. I only go out every once in a while to relax and take a break from my projects now, instead of making it my main priority. Now ironically chicks come up to me, not all the time but it happens quite a bit. Just last time I went out and was just having a quiet drink two russian girls were hitting on me and they wouldnt leave me alone, even though I acted like a complete asshole.
So I would say he should take some pressure off himself, took a couple of weeks off and focus on some other shit. You cant run around and make getting laid your #1 priority at least for me its not working. If thats REALLY your #1 thing in life - getting laid - then go for it. But I think a guy like that usually has some insecurity and just wants to feel like hes ok by getting female approval. I think he would be better off working on those insecurities and not just chasing chicks all day.
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09-21-2013, 08:41 AM
I wonder if the dude has any friends. I've seen guys get into pickup before when they aren't ready for it because they aren't socially normal yet. If you can't do basic social stuff, you're not going to be able to do something harder like get a girl into bed.
At this point I'm sure he is frustrated and desperate. and girls can sense that.
He'd be better off taking some time off game and work on improving his lifestyle.
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09-21-2013, 12:20 PM
He almost certainly has some sort of anxiety disorder. He likely starts panicking or acting really weird when he's alone with girls.
Even a guy with zero game would get laid on 500 approaches.
This guy has anti-game. It's probably a medical disorder and he may be one of the few guys who actually needs some sort of medication. (Or maybe even something like tryptophan would work.)
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09-21-2013, 12:27 PM
Anxiety puts out an insecure vibe. It's possible. You gotta get yourself in the correct mindset. My old drummer played like shit until you got two beers in him. Then he was fucking amazing. Same kinda thing.
I say he should lube them (and himself)up with some liquor. Probably has to work on his escalation as well.
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09-21-2013, 12:35 PM
It's odd...he doesn't seem too weird from the photo, but some kind of deep rooted social problem is the only thing I can think of to explain it, considering he's not hideous or overweight. I mean five-hundred approaches and not one single lay? No matter how lame, insecure or desperate you are you should be able to get something after that much. Where does this guy live, seriously? Some remote mountain village in Afghanistan? What the fuck.
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09-21-2013, 02:32 PM
Simple, he was after the approach, not the lay.
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09-21-2013, 02:58 PM
Impossible to say without meeting the guy. I've seen guys who look like him with hot girls, so I doubt it's his looks. Probably psychs himself when he's going for the gold.
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09-21-2013, 04:13 PM
definitely nothing to do with looks.
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09-21-2013, 04:27 PM
Maybe the problem is that he only goes for SNLs and his interactions collapse as soon as they have to last more than half an hour. It would be possible for a guy to successfully get hundreds of makeouts but no bangs that way (by either intentionally skipping dates or being inept at final stages of escalation, or both).
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09-21-2013, 05:30 PM
I can't stand his look. I hate his stupid pink shirt, his necklace, stupid looking bracelets, and ugly ass pants. I'd also trim that hair and slick it back. If his pubes are as sloppy as the rest of his look I'm sure that's turning off some of the girls too. I'm far from being a metrosexual but come on dude. Get it together.
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