Minimal pro-Crossfit people on here.
I think Fisto is an advocate.
I would like to hear his take.
I think Fisto is an advocate.
I would like to hear his take.
Quote: (07-19-2013 04:18 PM)WestCoast Wrote:
I have done cross fit before and it is a joke in terms of both getting in shape or better looking (it is a joke for both).
Quote: (07-19-2013 05:26 PM)dog24 Wrote:
Divorco the point is not on whether youre well off financially or not. A shitty investment is a shitty one even if your rich or not. Whats the point of doing 21 clean and jerk with a subminimal weight? The goal is to put as much weight possible over your head period, i heard they even give out gold medals for it. And not only do you do 21 you time it??? For what, when it comes to strength training its better to have a couple of minutes to rest between sets and the sets shouldnt be more than 5 reps. So youre not getting stronger, youre not doing hypertrophy training, all youre doing is cardio fucking around with a very complex lift that could rip apart your shoulder.... No offense but your post clearly reflects the douchey attitude that keeps getting criticism even in this topic
Quote: (07-19-2013 05:26 PM)dog24 Wrote:
Whats the point of doing 21 clean and jerk with a subminimal weight? The goal is to put as much weight possible over your head period,
Quote: (07-19-2013 01:56 PM)WestCoast Wrote:
just get a personal trainer ... 10-15 days out of the year
Quote: (07-19-2013 04:27 PM)Ensam Wrote:
You'd be better off spending $60-80 to hire an olympic weight lifting coach once a month.
Quote: (07-19-2013 04:00 PM)Divorco Wrote:
The functional aspect uses heavy Olympic lifts and power lifts. But there is not a focused linear progression on single exercises. Crossfit also has an important aerobic aspect. Crossfit says "We can do what you do almost as well as you, and you can't do our stuff at all." For example, one elite weightlifter could clean and jerk 400+ pounds. So they timed him doing "Fran", using "only" 135 pounds (the normal prescription is 95 pounds). It consists of 21 clean and jerks, 21 pull-ups, then 15 clean and jerks, 15 pull-ups, and 9 clean and jerks, 9 pull-ups. The best Crossfit guys do Fran in four minutes, but the elite lifter took 20 minutes!
Quote: (07-19-2013 09:37 PM)obrero Wrote:
Crossfit is the best way I know of to get very, very fit if you don't have any other athletic interests. If you have a good coach you will learn very useful global motor patterns that apply to every sport. That's what Crossfit is all about. The don't specialize in any activity, but they do teach you to move your body efficiently.
The explosive hip extension that you see in a clean and jerk or snatch is the same hip extension you see in the kipping pull up or a kipping muscle up. I don't see you gentlemen complaining about all the 'cheating' olympic lifters who use a dynamic movement to put a bar overhead. What's the problem with someone using a dynamic movement to do a pull up? If you complain that these movements done as fast as possible will hurt you, you make it obvious that you've never played a sport or trained hard for any athletic activity, ever.
Quote: (07-19-2013 10:24 PM)reaper23 Wrote:
but at the end of the day, i wanted to focus more just on pure strength, so i quit. and now my deadlift is over 500.
but my cardio is shit!
Quote: (07-19-2013 10:04 PM)Doctor Wrote:
Quote: (07-19-2013 09:37 PM)obrero Wrote:
Crossfit is the best way I know of to get very, very fit if you don't have any other athletic interests. If you have a good coach you will learn very useful global motor patterns that apply to every sport. That's what Crossfit is all about. The don't specialize in any activity, but they do teach you to move your body efficiently.
The explosive hip extension that you see in a clean and jerk or snatch is the same hip extension you see in the kipping pull up or a kipping muscle up. I don't see you gentlemen complaining about all the 'cheating' olympic lifters who use a dynamic movement to put a bar overhead. What's the problem with someone using a dynamic movement to do a pull up? If you complain that these movements done as fast as possible will hurt you, you make it obvious that you've never played a sport or trained hard for any athletic activity, ever.
I'm sorry. If you think any of this is even remotely accurate, then you really have no clue. I was going to say there is a shred of truth in there, but how it is worded there isn't.
The fact that something like this is far too common is one of the many reasons why I dislike CF.
Quote: (07-19-2013 11:25 PM)dog24 Wrote:
Is this the crossfit hamster?
Quote: (07-19-2013 10:55 PM)obrero Wrote:
Quote: (07-19-2013 10:04 PM)Doctor Wrote:
Quote: (07-19-2013 09:37 PM)obrero Wrote:
Crossfit is the best way I know of to get very, very fit if you don't have any other athletic interests. If you have a good coach you will learn very useful global motor patterns that apply to every sport. That's what Crossfit is all about. The don't specialize in any activity, but they do teach you to move your body efficiently.
The explosive hip extension that you see in a clean and jerk or snatch is the same hip extension you see in the kipping pull up or a kipping muscle up. I don't see you gentlemen complaining about all the 'cheating' olympic lifters who use a dynamic movement to put a bar overhead. What's the problem with someone using a dynamic movement to do a pull up? If you complain that these movements done as fast as possible will hurt you, you make it obvious that you've never played a sport or trained hard for any athletic activity, ever.
I'm sorry. If you think any of this is even remotely accurate, then you really have no clue. I was going to say there is a shred of truth in there, but how it is worded there isn't.
The fact that something like this is far too common is one of the many reasons why I dislike CF.
Care to elaborate?
Quote: (07-20-2013 12:12 AM)Therapsid Wrote:
Quote: (07-19-2013 11:25 PM)dog24 Wrote:
Is this the crossfit hamster?
Guys have seriously gotta stop hurling the hamster accusation at anyone they disagree with. It's getting ridiculous.
I lift and do HIIT, but honestly the close-mindedness of guys in the bodybuilding and powerlifting community is ridiculous. Not just on here, but anywhere CrossFit is discussed online, or on any YouTube video about it, you'll find swarms of creatine-pumped bodybuilders trying to tear everybody down.
Whatever, top fitness models like Greg Plitt and Rob Riches have gotten into CrossFit and have given it respect.
Quote: (07-19-2013 07:48 PM)Doctor Wrote:
"Heavy" is relative.
And the whole "We can do what you do almost as well as you, and you can't do our stuff at all" I don't buy.
Quote: (07-19-2013 11:25 PM)dog24 Wrote:
Divorco the fact that you refer to crossfit as an elite workout for elite and highly succesful people with no time to waste is enough reason not to respond.
Quote: (07-20-2013 07:39 AM)Doctor Wrote:
Quote: (07-19-2013 10:55 PM)obrero Wrote:
Quote: (07-19-2013 10:04 PM)Doctor Wrote:
Quote: (07-19-2013 09:37 PM)obrero Wrote:
Crossfit is the best way I know of to get very, very fit if you don't have any other athletic interests. If you have a good coach you will learn very useful global motor patterns that apply to every sport. That's what Crossfit is all about. The don't specialize in any activity, but they do teach you to move your body efficiently.
The explosive hip extension that you see in a clean and jerk or snatch is the same hip extension you see in the kipping pull up or a kipping muscle up. I don't see you gentlemen complaining about all the 'cheating' olympic lifters who use a dynamic movement to put a bar overhead. What's the problem with someone using a dynamic movement to do a pull up? If you complain that these movements done as fast as possible will hurt you, you make it obvious that you've never played a sport or trained hard for any athletic activity, ever.
I'm sorry. If you think any of this is even remotely accurate, then you really have no clue. I was going to say there is a shred of truth in there, but how it is worded there isn't.
The fact that something like this is far too common is one of the many reasons why I dislike CF.
Care to elaborate?
Actually I don't.