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07-10-2013, 07:54 PM
I find all these attempts to demonize Trayvon Martin to be quite funny. So there are some pictures of him fronting like he was hard. That's what teenage boys do. Fuck, half the white chicks I know have pictures of themselves somewhere on the internet flashing "ironic" gang signs. Are they dangerous gangsters?
On the night he was killed, there's no evidence that Martin was doing anything wrong. If that is the case then Zimmerman instigated the entire confrontation. Talking about how Zimmerman is being persecuted for political reasons is just nonsense. Go back to the beginning. This didn't start with people screaming for Zimmerman's head. This started because the police just showed up, took Zimmerman's word and were about to let him off scot free.
Doesn't sound like the prosecution has the case to prove second degree murder, but he certainly should have been charged with something, probably manslaughter. If you start a fight with someone, they start licking your ass, you get in a good shot and they fall to the ground and split their head open, are the cops just going to send you home?
If anything, being charged with second degree murder is looking like good luck for Zimmerman.
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07-10-2013, 08:30 PM
He actually was on drugs, the toxicology tests proved that. He was also buying skittles and watermelon flavored arizona, used to make 'lean.' he was in Orlando because his Mom kicked him out of the house. He had a record at school because he was caught with stolen merchandise and burgulary tools. Just a harmless, innocent sweet little boy. Right.
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07-10-2013, 08:33 PM
Is manslaughter a lesser-included offense of murder in Florida? That is, does the judge give the jury the option of convicting Zimmerman of manslaughter automatically?
This is not a murder case - and probably not enough to convict Zimmerman of manslaughter, because they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt he wasn't acting in self-defense.
That said, I'm glad he's spent months in jail - he's an asshole wannabe cop and meddler.
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07-10-2013, 08:35 PM
Manslaughter is a lesser case but if he gets manslaughter he is still really screwed - because it involves a minor its 20 years I believe
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07-10-2013, 08:37 PM
What is Zimmerman was black and Martin was white, I am sure most of you would not feel the same way.
You would want Zimmerman to hang!
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07-10-2013, 08:47 PM
BMan must have been a saint as a teenager. Never smoked or drank, no fights, loved his parents--I think he's saving himself for marriage.
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07-10-2013, 08:47 PM
Quote: (07-10-2013 07:00 PM)pozdnyshev Wrote:
If you'd bothered to follow the link I posted to CNN, Treyvon was apparently more than just "all bark". For example, there's this video of him refereeing a street fight.
Of course, we're not on the jury and I'm sure we're not getting all the info, and I'm certainly not here to defend Zimmerman. However, to say that calling Trevyon a thug is ridiculous is itself ridiculous.
Are you one of those sheltered upper middle class folk who have never been in a street fight? Refereed fights among average teenage boys can be found from Barcelona, Spain to Anytown, Tennessee bro.
Also, if we're going to assassinate some random punk black kid's character for being a "thug" on Fuckerberg's Betabook then what do we do with a man who legitimately attacked a cop (i.e. Zimmerman)?
If we're going to determine whether Zimmerman or Martin is in the right based on previous criminal records and conduct, then Zimmerman is in for a world of hurt bro.
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07-10-2013, 08:53 PM
Quote: (07-10-2013 08:33 PM)Sp5 Wrote:
Is manslaughter a lesser-included offense of murder in Florida? That is, does the judge give the jury the option of convicting Zimmerman of manslaughter automatically?
This is not a murder case - and probably not enough to convict Zimmerman of manslaughter, because they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt he wasn't acting in self-defense.
That said, I'm glad he's spent months in jail - he's an asshole wannabe cop and meddler.
This is the highwater mark that needs to be reached--the proving beyond reasonable doubt that second-degree murder occurred. If this mark can't be reached, Zimmerman should walk.
Quote: (07-10-2013 08:37 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
What is Zimmerman was black and Martin was white, I am sure most of you would not feel the same way.
You would want Zimmerman to hang!
It is likely that none of us would have heard of this case had the media not mistaken Zimmerman for a white gentile in their initial excitement.
Maybe Zimmerman should hit up Lima after this blows over. Leverage that fame + (somewhat) light-skinned latino game.
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07-10-2013, 09:25 PM
Martin was temporarily staying in the community. On the day Martin was fatally shot, he and his father were visiting his father's fiancée and her son at her townhome in The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, a multi-ethnic gated community, where the shooting occurred. Martin had visited his father's fiancée at Twin Lakes several times. So guys, if you want to dig for some kind of justification for Martin being shot, it wasn't because he had jumped the wall into the community.
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07-10-2013, 09:31 PM
Your logic amazes me. In your world if anyones asks someone who they dont recognize why they are in a particular place they are subject to violent attacks. Wtf is wrong w/you?
When I was a kid we used to play games in the neighborhood where we'd run through backyards chasing each other around. Neighbors would always come out pissed at us and ask us who we were and what we were doing. Did we attack them? Of course not, we are civilized human beings. We talked to them in such a manner and we went along our merry way.
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07-10-2013, 09:48 PM
'these punks' would be the young black men who had committed 8 burglaries in the last 15 months in his neighborhood. but hey, its all whiteys fault.