[Vaun]

(07-08-2013 01:49 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 01:42 PM)puckman Wrote:  

Brian hit the nail on the head. Turn the tables. It sounds like he didnt even try. Here my friends is how a beta gets a divorce. And unfortunately, 90% of men. I have a hard time believing his story about the court. Unless he agreed to it, I have never seen this happen to a man who actively and aggressively defended his role as a father. Even in Canada. He left his evidence at his lawyers office? Really? And he had to go to court once a month for a year and a half? Wow, sounds like a typical divorce.

In defense of the guy, he ran out of money to pay the lawyers. I suspect they weren't falling oall over themselves to get him his documents once he was no longer a source of money.

As far as exerting now effort, he was probably trying to earn the money (I I guess he is an internationally known TV personality) that ended up condemning him to astronomical child support.

And the demon behind the scenes I as I keep ranting about, is imputed income. There's no real oversight by qualified accountants etc. over what is a reasonable amount, these are government bureaucrats declaring "Oh, he should be making about.... (X). SO you owe... y% of X."

Most lawyers work until the case is over, then bill you. He likely had no strategy and did no leg work on his own. He probably wrote a fat check hands off, like he did ms wonderful, and just let them do the work. They probably took him because he wasn't strong enough to fire them and hire good representation, similar to his marriage. He probably exerted no control or direction over the process which ultimately left him without his kids.

He can work in Canada, no? Imputed income timing was something that could have actually worked in his favor, but again it sounds like he was either too disengaged or misled to realize that.

[samsamsam]

   

Fucking BS.

http://www.popeater.com/2011/03/09/dave-...a-southey/

This is the chick he married. She looks crazy in this pic and that was from 1994. He must be totally beta if this is what got him so excited about.

Hate to be heartless, but how do you bet/risk everything on this ugly shit which gave you pyscho indicators early.

[Therapsid]

From catching Kids in the Hall back in the day I always assumed the dude was gay.

Anyway, being a beta shouldn't land a man in prison or have him financially wiped out. There's a lesson to be learned here, but it doesn't change the fact that its an injustice.

[Vaun]

(07-08-2013 02:53 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

From catching Kids in the Hall back in the day I always assumed the dude was gay.

Anyway, being a beta shouldn't land a man in prison or have him financially wiped out. There's a lesson to be learned here, but it doesn't change the fact that its an injustice.

its the reality of making bad mistakes from being a beta

[MrXY]

I would never get married or have children in any western country

[samsamsam]

(07-08-2013 02:53 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

From catching Kids in the Hall back in the day I always assumed the dude was gay.

Anyway, being a beta shouldn't land a man in prison or have him financially wiped out. There's a lesson to be learned here, but it doesn't change the fact that its an injustice.

I agree being beta shouldn't mean you get a financial death sentence.

On a side note, I PM'd 2Wycked about a movie called "Dream Lover" to see if he ever saw it and maybe a do one of those fancy write-ups he does. If he doesn't, I'll try and do one. This thread and the other one yesterday about a narcissistic wife ruined a guy's life http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-25605.html
makes me totally think of Dream Lover with James Spader and a super hot chick who is naked through a good amount of the movie.

On another side note, her eyes would qualify as beady eyes, right? I heard something a while back about beady eyed women being calculating. Since I can't name a source, I am just asking if anyone ever noticed a difference with some women and their eye shapes and behavior. Totally random question...

[iknowexactly]

(07-08-2013 02:01 PM)puckman Wrote:  

He can work in Canada, no? Imputed income timing was something that could have actually worked in his favor, but again it sounds like he was either too disengaged or misled to realize that.

He repeated at least twice in the video he can't go to Canada or he'll be arrested. I think you are right he was not the type to aggressively defend himself-- he would've seen through her earlier if he had appropriate paranoia or just being normally circumspect.

[Dr. Howard]

(07-08-2013 11:27 AM)scotian Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 11:10 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 04:03 AM)kerouac Wrote:  

Is this just in Canada (I'm guessing not)? What's the situation like in places like California (if anyone can chime in)? How does one get into a marriage, but out of a situation like Dave Foley's? Aside from pre-screening for bat-shit-insane...

I never get tired of re-reposting this:

The demon is "imputed income".

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/new_jer...ld_support

I can't see having kids in the US unless you are really load and can take the hit while retaining your lifestyle.

Is going off the grid an option in these cases, say if a guy moved deep into the woods to grow dope or something and didn't report any income, or he became a homeless bum and collected pop cans for a living. Are those options or would he still be thrown in jail for due child support/alimony?

You can go 'off the grid' like this in Northern Canada. We would have guys working in the woods who would get paychecks in someone else's name and spend as much time as they could working in the woods, or fishing. One guy put it eloquently "This job sucks, but its the only job where the cops won't find me" Most of these guys holed up with with a drunk native somewhere on a reserve on their day off and thats where their stuff was kept. Not much of a life, but they liked it better than jail. Its insane though, some guys were hiding out because they were wanted for robbing or beating someone and some were hiding out from child support. Sentenced to the same fate for diabolically different things.

PS, Ontario has its own "crimestoppers" style website for those looking to rat out people not paying child support http://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/en/goodparentspay/index.aspx

[Vaun]

(07-08-2013 05:10 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 02:01 PM)puckman Wrote:  

He can work in Canada, no? Imputed income timing was something that could have actually worked in his favor, but again it sounds like he was either too disengaged or misled to realize that.

He repeated at least twice in the video he can't go to Canada or he'll be arrested. I think you are right he was not the type to aggressively defend himself-- he would've seen through her earlier if he had appropriate paranoia or just being normally circumspect.

I think this is more of a consequence of the hole he dug himself than what he might have worked out with a well run divorce.

[Nolecbo]

It wasn't just him , this woman won't be an appropriate partner to anyone:

"Southey had recently divorced her actor husband, and thought getting drunk with various men, pretending to be interested in their careers, and reporting her findings was the only thing she was “qualified” to do. She pitched the story to the Post and Toronto Life, and the Post offered Southey her own column if she would let the Post run the piece. She never took the column, but she began writing for the paper on a bi-weekly basis."

http://www.rrj.ca/b20474/

[cardguy]

That woman looks sneaky as fuck.

As was mentioned above - is there any research into the psychological qualities of people with 'beady eyes'? Indeed - it is interesting that the concept already exists - since it suggests it is a trait people have noticed over many generations.

[Anaguma]

"I told her 'I have these feelings, and I don't think we should see each other anymore.'"
And she responds by pulling out her tits and making out with him.

Should've been a big tell right there.