[MidWest]

OK, so I read some threads on Black Americans and their experiences in the land of the tango and I also read other threads on Argentina and the consensus is that Argentina is a tough place to game, but I never found anything on Latinos specifically in Argentina.

I'm also aware of the huge contempt and discrimination Argentinians have towards other Latinos especially Peruvians and Bolivians. I'm not sure how they see Mestizos though or Latinos from other countries.

I have actually been to Argentina 2 years ago, but only went for one week and had absolutely no game whatsoever, and im still learning the game believe it or not. I found it interesting that many people were more intrigued that I was Mexican more so than being an American (I'm Mexican-American) and people would say "Wow, you're Mexican, what an awesome culture you have" etc... Girls would say that they liked my Mexican accent etc and that the only Mexicans they see are the ones in telenovelas. I was surprisingly treated better by the people in Argentina and had better reactions by saying I was Mexican in that one week, then all my life in America. This was just my limited experience in one week, and I never closed any girl because again I had no game and in one week I was more interested in the culture than nothing else, but I did notice a lot of IOI's when I said what my background was.

Any Latinos out there who have experiences, please feel free to share them. I'm starting to believe that Argentina can have some potential for us Latinos especially if your Mexican or Puerto Rican or any Latin country in North America and the Caribbean, since the girls down there only see them on TV.

[Screwston]

Are you guero?

[pegador]

I'm not Latino but I lived in Argentina for 6 months and for the most part I didn't see any discrimination against others because of their nationality but more because of their wealth or status. The Peruvians and Bolivians may be looked down upon because they do menial jobs and are not that educated. However I had a really good Bolivian friend there (totally looked indigenous) and he was a moderately popular DJ and played at many of the clubs...I went with him to Pachaa there and he was getting girls like nothing else. He's not good looking, at least not by Argentine standards, but that didn't hurt him when it came to women.

It's what you bring to the table, not your nationality or even much what you look like. Just have fun and don't worry about being Latino. If you speak spanish well, you'll be find. Understanding their Italianized Spanish on the other hand is something else...

[MidWest]

(06-26-2013 07:31 PM)houston Wrote:  

Are you guero?

Well I wouldn't consider myself guero. A guero to me is a white Mexican with the typical nordic look, blue eyes, blonde hair. I look very identical to Oscar de la Hoya, same skin tone and similar face features with brown eyes and black hair.

[germanico]

(06-26-2013 08:01 PM)pegador Wrote:  

It's what you bring to the table, not your nationality or even much what you look like.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

In this forum, there's a bunch of blacks always asking if they get treated like kings in other countries in the world (it gets annoying and it makes me wonder if they're really self-confident). and anyway, I don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico), but to the point, I think us Mexican-Americans have lots of potential outside the US of faggotry (the most out of all other ethnic groups in the US, sorry blacks, but afro-immigrants in europe pose as one of your own) because in the US, we viewed as menial workers, americans don't like hearing the beautiful Spanish language (curse them all to hell he/she who dislike the great Spanish language), and we viewed as exotic hot stuff. and, we can thank the mexican telenovelas who export Mexican culture all over the world.

it's time for us to march all over the world, as our parents intended when they left Mexico.

[speakeasy]

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

II don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico),

Not to hijack the subject but can you break that down a bit? I get annoyed by the PC surrounding the word "Latino" and how people will be offended if you say "Hispanic" instead.

[Scarecr0w]

(06-28-2013 04:40 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

II don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico),

Not to hijack the subject but can you break that down a bit? I get annoyed by the PC surrounding the word "Latino" and how people will be offended if you say "Hispanic" instead.

Latino and Hispanic terms are cultural not racial. For example most people from quebec, argentina or uruguay have their roots in europe and are white, but they also fit the term latino.
Most bolivians, mexicans, peruvians,etc also fit the term latino, but they are not white, they are mostly from native american descent....
got the idea?

[Therapsid]

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

In this forum, there's a bunch of blacks always asking if they get treated like kings in other countries in the world (it gets annoying and it makes me wonder if they're really self-confident). and anyway, I don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico), but to the point, I think us Mexican-Americans have lots of potential outside the US of faggotry (the most out of all other ethnic groups in the US, sorry blacks, but afro-immigrants in europe pose as one of your own) because in the US, we viewed as menial workers, americans don't like hearing the beautiful Spanish language (curse them all to hell he/she who dislike the great Spanish language), and we viewed as exotic hot stuff. and, we can thank the mexican telenovelas who export Mexican culture all over the world.

it's time for us to march all over the world, as our parents intended when they left Mexico.

So, wait you're complaining about black guys on here supposedly wanting to be treated like kings when they travel, but then you turn around and say that you want to see Mexicans taking over the world like modern-day conquistadors?

[speakeasy]

(06-28-2013 09:08 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 04:40 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

II don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico),

Not to hijack the subject but can you break that down a bit? I get annoyed by the PC surrounding the word "Latino" and how people will be offended if you say "Hispanic" instead.

Latino and Hispanic terms are cultural not racial. For example most people from quebec, argentina or uruguay have their roots in europe and are white, but they also fit the term latino.
Most bolivians, mexicans, peruvians,etc also fit the term latino, but they are not white, they are mostly from native american descent....
got the idea?

I already know this, I meant the part about the French creating the word Latino.

[Screwston]

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

In this forum, there's a bunch of blacks always asking if they get treated like kings in other countries in the world (it gets annoying and it makes me wonder if they're really self-confident). and anyway, I don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico), but to the point, I think us Mexican-Americans have lots of potential outside the US of faggotry (the most out of all other ethnic groups in the US, sorry blacks, but afro-immigrants in europe pose as one of your own) because in the US, we viewed as menial workers, americans don't like hearing the beautiful Spanish language (curse them all to hell he/she who dislike the great Spanish language), and we viewed as exotic hot stuff. and, we can thank the mexican telenovelas who export Mexican culture all over the world.

it's time for us to march all over the world, as our parents intended when they left Mexico.

America is just a fucked up country when it comes to race. I think Mexicans are pretty much at the bottom right now or in 2nd place after Arabs. I wonder which countries show novelas?

[MidWest]

(06-28-2013 05:59 PM)houston Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

In this forum, there's a bunch of blacks always asking if they get treated like kings in other countries in the world (it gets annoying and it makes me wonder if they're really self-confident). and anyway, I don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico), but to the point, I think us Mexican-Americans have lots of potential outside the US of faggotry (the most out of all other ethnic groups in the US, sorry blacks, but afro-immigrants in europe pose as one of your own) because in the US, we viewed as menial workers, americans don't like hearing the beautiful Spanish language (curse them all to hell he/she who dislike the great Spanish language), and we viewed as exotic hot stuff. and, we can thank the mexican telenovelas who export Mexican culture all over the world.

it's time for us to march all over the world, as our parents intended when they left Mexico.

America is just a fucked up country when it comes to race. I think Mexicans are pretty much at the bottom right now or in 2nd place after Arabs. I wonder which countries show novelas?

All over the world Houston, especially all over Latin America. Hispanic Reasoning is right when he says that Mexican telenovelas export Mexican culture around the world. Like I said in my first post. I was treated very well by the Argentinians when I said I was Mexican and had better reactions when I said I was Mexican than American, so much so that I didnt even mention I was American at all. Also in Latin American and especially Brazil, the show "El Chavo del Ocho" is very popular. This was just my experience in Argentina and nowhere in the world did I get so much attention for being Mexican than there, and like you said being Mexican in the US sucks, but down in South America they are exotic because they dont see many of them. Also I think MiXX said once that telenovelas are very popular in Eastern Europe as well.

[king]

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

and, we can thank the mexican telenovelas who export Mexican culture all over the world.

Telenovelas are lame in my opinion, it's always the same history - some sort of romantic conflict or a hypergamy story about inaccessible alphas, worst of all they just confirm the stereotype of women liking all kinds of petty emotions (jealousy, anger, revenge), although to be fair some men also watch them. But, it seems that it is what "sells", some say is the porn equivalent for women.

Quote:

I wonder which countries show novelas?

They do seem to be popular around the world, even in China:

http://www.latinospost.com/articles/2095...illiam.htm

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(06-28-2013 04:40 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

II don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico),

Not to hijack the subject but can you break that down a bit? I get annoyed by the PC surrounding the word "Latino" and how people will be offended if you say "Hispanic" instead.

a latino is technically a person who speaks a language based out of latin (romanian, spanish, italian, french, portuguese, catalan, galician, etc) while a Hispanic is someone from Spain, has ancestry to Spain, or is from a country that has neo-Spanish customs (mexico, argentina, peru, etc). in the US, people use those two terms as if they mean the same thing when they don't.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(06-28-2013 09:08 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 04:40 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

II don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico),

Not to hijack the subject but can you break that down a bit? I get annoyed by the PC surrounding the word "Latino" and how people will be offended if you say "Hispanic" instead.

Latino and Hispanic terms are cultural not racial. For example most people from quebec, argentina or uruguay have their roots in europe and are white, but they also fit the term latino.
Most bolivians, mexicans, peruvians,etc also fit the term latino, but they are not white, they are mostly from native american descent....
got the idea?

correction, most mexicans are of mixed ancestry while peruvians and bolivians are of the majority of cases, of amerindian ancestry.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(06-28-2013 01:17 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 09:08 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 04:40 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

II don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico),

Not to hijack the subject but can you break that down a bit? I get annoyed by the PC surrounding the word "Latino" and how people will be offended if you say "Hispanic" instead.

Latino and Hispanic terms are cultural not racial. For example most people from quebec, argentina or uruguay have their roots in europe and are white, but they also fit the term latino.
Most bolivians, mexicans, peruvians,etc also fit the term latino, but they are not white, they are mostly from native american descent....
got the idea?

I already know this, I meant the part about the French creating the word Latino.

when napoleon III ordered the invasion of mexico during the late 1850s, early 1860s, he tried to find other ways to justify his invasion of Mexico since he knew the americans would oppose such an invasion based off the monroe doctrine. so, he created the clause that since both french people and mexicans speak a "latin" language, they're latinos. in essence, they're very related, which means mexicans could be under the rule of france. of course, it didn't work (americans don't give a shit about ethnicity outside of US of faggotry).

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(06-28-2013 11:05 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  

So, wait you're complaining about black guys on here supposedly wanting to be treated like kings when they travel, but then you turn around and say that you want to see Mexicans taking over the world like modern-day conquistadors?

Do you see threads of Mexicans or Mexican-Americans asking if they would get treated like kings in x country or if they would get discriminated in y country? No.

And I said that we people of the Mexican national ethnic clan should travel all over this blue cube as we get better reactions from women in other places because we are exotic stuff, since 99% of all people of mexican ancestry live in north america (78% in mexico, 21% in USA, and 1% in the rest of the world).

(06-28-2013 05:59 PM)houston Wrote:  

America is just a fucked up country when it comes to race. I think Mexicans are pretty much at the bottom right now or in 2nd place after Arabs. I wonder which countries show novelas?

the US of faggotry is just a prison work camp where if you aren't a member of the special group that gets benefits from the prison guards, you're done for. even for "whites," it's pretty bad.

and telenovelas are shown everywhere. in eastern europe, they're really big time hits, as I pop into eastern europeans who know spanish because they watch mexican telenovelas. and apparently, in Israel, lots of girls want to try mexican men because of telenovelas (lol).

(06-28-2013 11:16 PM)king Wrote:  

Telenovelas are lame in my opinion, it's always the same history - some sort of romantic conflict or a hypergamy story about inaccessible alphas, worst of all they just confirm the stereotype of women liking all kinds of petty emotions (jealousy, anger, revenge), although to be fair some men also watch them. But, it seems that it is what "sells", some say is the porn equivalent for women.

very true, which is why I stopped watching that shit, although they do show very attractive women, much better looking than american celebrities.

like her (luz elena gonzalez, she's from Guadalajara Jalisco):

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(06-28-2013 09:03 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

All over the world Houston, especially all over Latin America. Hispanic Reasoning is right when he says that Mexican telenovelas export Mexican culture around the world. Like I said in my first post. I was treated very well by the Argentinians when I said I was Mexican and had better reactions when I said I was Mexican than American, so much so that I didnt even mention I was American at all. Also in Latin American and especially Brazil, the show "El Chavo del Ocho" is very popular. This was just my experience in Argentina and nowhere in the world did I get so much attention for being Mexican than there, and like you said being Mexican in the US sucks, but down in South America they are exotic because they dont see many of them. Also I think MiXX said once that telenovelas are very popular in Eastern Europe as well.

if you go back to argentina for at least a year, and see if you get laid more than the average foreigner in argentina, then we might figure out the Argentinian enigma that has plagued many men on this forum, since the guys who have posted on the threads relating to argentina are non-mexicans.

and yes, it's bad being a Mexican in yes because we are viewed as just simple menial workers, but if we do a U turn for the mexican women, all anglo men fantasize of sleeping with a mexican woman who screams out of her lungs in spanish while getting drilled, lol.

[Scarecr0w]

(06-29-2013 12:21 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 09:08 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 04:40 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 12:33 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

II don't consider myself Latino (an invention made by some french king who wanted to justify invading Mexico),

Not to hijack the subject but can you break that down a bit? I get annoyed by the PC surrounding the word "Latino" and how people will be offended if you say "Hispanic" instead.

Latino and Hispanic terms are cultural not racial. For example most people from quebec, argentina or uruguay have their roots in europe and are white, but they also fit the term latino.
Most bolivians, mexicans, peruvians,etc also fit the term latino, but they are not white, they are mostly from native american descent....
got the idea?

correction, most mexicans are of mixed ancestry while peruvians and bolivians are of the majority of cases, of amerindian ancestry.

Correction, mexican and peruvians are the same, a big majority of amerindian 40-50%, a second group of mestizos of amerindian-spanish mix 35-40% and a small ruling european descent group 10-15%. Both were the center of spanish power in latinamerica mexico in the north and Peru in the south...

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

are you fucking kidding me? Saying Mexico is amerindian majority is like saying Blacks are the majority in Brasil. have you even traveled or lived in Mexico because with your comment, I really doubt it.

[PhilE]

I've seen people get banned for less.... Smh

[Scarecr0w]

(06-29-2013 09:14 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

are you fucking kidding me? Saying Mexico is amerindian majority is like saying Blacks are the majority in Brasil. have you even traveled or lived in Mexico because with your comment, I really doubt it.

I have traveled to mexico. 90% of the population looks amerindian or amerindian-mestizo. The mestizos look more way more amerindian than european. One thing is the "telenovelas" that try to show mexico as a white country. The reality is totally different.
still in doubt?? ask in this forum what people think about how the vast majority of mexicans look...

[Therapsid]

delete

[Therapsid]

(06-29-2013 10:26 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

(06-29-2013 09:14 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

are you fucking kidding me? Saying Mexico is amerindian majority is like saying Blacks are the majority in Brasil. have you even traveled or lived in Mexico because with your comment, I really doubt it.

I have traveled to mexico. 90% of the population looks amerindian or amerindian-mestizo. The mestizos look more way more amerindian than european. One thing is the "telenovelas" that try to show mexico as a white country. The reality is totally different.
still in doubt?? ask in this forum what people think about how the vast majority of mexicans look...

It obviously varies across by individual and region, but the estimates I've seen have put the average contribution of Amerindian in Mexican mestizos around 40% or so. For example, that's the rough estimate of one study of people in Mexico City. Which is very high, but also means that they still have more European ancestry. There's also a very small contribution of African ancestry.

Genetic research is complicated but one estimate puts the breakdown for a sample of Mexicans studied as follows:

59.7% European
36.9% "Native American"
3.4% African

and another at:

49.9% European
47.3% "Native American"
2.8% African

Link

Obviously more Amerindian-looking Mexicans may push this to 50% and beyond of indigenous ancestry.

But here's the takeaway for the Americans on here - the majority of Mexicans probably qualify as "Native American" by the standards of native tribes in the U.S.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

why should I ask the people of the forum when:

1. I am of Mexican ancestry (both of my parents are Mexican nationals).

2. I have actually lived in Mexico.

3. I have traveled to Mexico so many times I have lost count (since I had diapers).

4. I'm considered darker than the average Mexian yet I look like a South Asian/Arab.

5. Genetically, Im more amerindian than the average Mexican yet I scored around 49% amerindian, 4% black, and the rest European.

average Mexican is around 55 to 60% European.