[WestIndianArchie]

(06-27-2013 01:19 PM)texaschili Wrote:  

Women have to do more approaching in Boston because there is an over-supply of single women in that city.

http://trends.truliablog.com/2013/02/loo...ht-places/

It's why I'm moving there.

Moving to BOSTON for chicks?

lol

WIA

[thegmanifesto]

Reasons:

1. Pharmaceuticals - kids are just doped up. I was just in France and little kids were acting crazy. Kids in America are drooling and walking around like Zombies. Anyone else notice this? Are foreign kids not doped up?

2. P0rn - when I was a kid it was easier to get weed than a p0rno mag.

3. Video Games - guys my age outgrew these by junior high school or before. Now adults play them. Never understood this.

4. Food - This sh*t is all chemical'd up. Even Coke in foreign countries tastes healthy compared to our food.

5. Fantasy Football - "Fantasy Football"? Are you f*cking kidding me? What happened to "Real Football"? Even real football is something that should be outgrown. I don't think it is healthy to idolize 24 year olds when you are 35 years old.

6. Online dating - Even if one is successful, I don't think they can really look at themselves in the mirror and be proud of it. If they can, then they have bigger problems.

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That being said, where I am, guys approach but I see more guy and girl groups.

[lush1]

Most people I know 'meet' prospective partners via facebook.

[texaschili]

(06-27-2013 02:09 PM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 01:19 PM)texaschili Wrote:  

Women have to do more approaching in Boston because there is an over-supply of single women in that city.

http://trends.truliablog.com/2013/02/loo...ht-places/

It's why I'm moving there.

There's a reason those women are single. Think about it.

Washington DC is there and most of the guys here say that the quality of women there are horrible.

I don't agree with that thinking. Because there is more opportunity in Boston doesn't mean the opportunity must be bad. Look at Rock Springs, WY or Gillette, WY. There are fewer single women there which is what you *don't* want.

The guys that complain DC chicks are no good haven't encountered economically disadvantaged white trash rocky mountain women.

Furthermore, there isn't parity between Boston and Denver for example. There are women who exist in Boston whose counterpart doesn't exist in Denver.

[Doulos2Game]

Online dating is the worst. I have used it but I am slowly turning the corner. The best part of an interaction is the approach and I am approaching a freaking computer.

When I daygame even if I don't get two or three numbers( I ALWAYS GET AT LEAST ON NUMBER) I feel much better about myself than when I get a bang from online "game".

[thegmanifesto]

(06-27-2013 02:47 PM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  

Online dating is the worst. I have used it but I am slowly turning the corner. The best part of an interaction is the approach and I am approaching a freaking computer.

When I daygame even if I don't get two or three numbers( I ALWAYS GET NUMBERS) I fee much better about myself than when I get a bang from online "game".

Yeah, there is something about doing it in real life, "in the flesh".

For instance, today I sparred three rounds with a guy way bigger than me. He basically kicked my *ss (haven't boxed in two weeks).

But I felt great. I got some shots in, took some pretty decent shots, and felt the pressure and stress on my body of having a guy trying to put his fist thru your head.

The pain and pressure are what made me feel alive.

Would I have gotten that same feeling from a Boxing video Game?

No.

[JohnKreese]

(06-26-2013 09:41 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Beta males find strength in numbers, and the herd only moves as fast as the slowest member. In these groups, the weakest link is discouraging others from leaving the circle. They talk you out of approaching. There's nothing wrong with going out with the boys now and again not worry about women, but if you want success with opposite sex, run solo.

But in general, I see guys not approaching as much, and that's never been a lot anyways. When I bang a chick and meet her friends, there's always one in the group that complains about not being able to find a boyfriend. So we go out, and I'm surrounded by 4-6 girls, with tables of dudes all around, and NO guy comes to the table. And none of these girls are unattractive or acting like cunts. In fact, some are begging for a guy to come up and talk.

It's gotten so bad chicks now have to go on the initiative, which is a masculine trait. Women are forced to become manly because of the lack of manliness in men.

Experienced this last night (well, an even worse version). Went out solo, sat at the choking point of the bar and a group of 4 girls (probably 2 7s and 2 7.5s), dressed up stand next to me. I start chatting with one. she is responsive, but I can tell she is interested in her friends (one was apparently visiting from another state).

15 mins later, group of 4 dudes come in and stand on the other side of me. Was I out of my mind to expect some kind of interaction (there wasn't one)? Maybe, but I at least wanted one of the guys to get pissed at me for taking prime real estate with a "hey man, can we get on the other side of you?" so they could talk to the girls. Of course that didn't happen as the guys yucked it up and then one of their girl "friends" came by who they all proceeded to devote all of their attention to.

I asked the girl at one point, "would you rather be approached (while in a group), by a guy who is alone or a group of equal numbers?" She was like, "I mean, one cool guy if the group is a bunch of dorks" as she looked over at the guys.

Did not bang but one of the dorks bought me a shot.

[Doulos2Game]

(06-27-2013 02:43 PM)texaschili Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 02:09 PM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 01:19 PM)texaschili Wrote:  

Women have to do more approaching in Boston because there is an over-supply of single women in that city.

http://trends.truliablog.com/2013/02/loo...ht-places/

It's why I'm moving there.

There's a reason those women are single. Think about it.

Washington DC is there and most of the guys here say that the quality of women there are horrible.

I don't agree with that thinking. Because there is more opportunity in Boston doesn't mean the opportunity must be bad. Look at Rock Springs, WY or Gillette, WY. There are fewer single women there which is what you *don't* want.

The guys that complain DC chicks are no good haven't encountered economically disadvantaged white trash rocky mountain women.

Furthermore, there isn't parity between Boston and Denver for example. There are women who exist in Boston whose counterpart doesn't exist in Denver.

I live in NY. So your saying that the quality of women where you live is so low that even a feminist, fugly, think they are 8's when they are 6's infested state like DC will be an upgrade? By all means then do what you need to do.

If the hottest women in your area look like this:



It's time to move.

[The Beast1]

(06-27-2013 10:30 AM)NY Digital Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 07:47 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

No need to hate. 6ft tall, 23, and I work in IT. If you want to be my friend on the Facebook by all means, but seriously come to Boston. The summer time girls are easier than when they are in the winter.

Isn't that everywhere?

I've been thinking of hitting up Boston soon though. Wouldn't there be a lot less college-aged girls?

You would think, but as of late there are a ton of single girls. Why, I have no idea. Let me know when you're in town. Tavern in the Square in Allston is a shit show.

I think it's easier at the moment. Most girls are away from the established tribes of college. Easy pickings. We're talking lots of 6s and 7s though. A few 8s here and there though.

[_DC_]

G, as for foreign people being drugged up, almost everytime I run into a person who is obv rolling balls in Sobe, its a French dude lol

[Kristian]

(06-25-2013 11:14 PM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

What area are you in?

I have noticed this when I was Germany - it seemed that men were there to hang out with their groups. I think my group of friends got surprised when I'd leave the group to scan the crowd.

For a long time I have noticed this phenomenon with girls.

I'm sure that a lot of african,turkish/kurds are banging your blond girls isn't? Lol They're much more aggresive than the German natives

that's an aspect I noticed there

[Branimir]

(06-27-2013 04:03 PM)Kristian Wrote:  

I'm sure that a lot of african,turkish/kurds are banging your blond girls isn't? Lol They're much more aggresive than the German natives

that's an aspect I noticed there

Nah. All girls here just always get creeped out by those, especially also because of their agressiveness.
Social pressure has gone so far that it's quite a bad image for a german girl to date a turk.
Since they hit on everything, the only girls they get are some low class ugly chicks, and sadly even these have standards here in germany.

I wouldn't say though that all german guys are pussies, atleast at my place german guys do of course also hit on girls. Many of them also won't take shit from other guys.
I have to say though it also depends heavily on the venue.
Some places are filled with wimps, in others bumping the wrong person can get you easily into a brawl.

[Every10GivesMeA10]

I sometimes ask friends if they want to go out and game girls together but they always make a silly excuse. I guess porn is the reason.

[Samseau]

(06-27-2013 03:36 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:30 AM)NY Digital Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 07:47 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

No need to hate. 6ft tall, 23, and I work in IT. If you want to be my friend on the Facebook by all means, but seriously come to Boston. The summer time girls are easier than when they are in the winter.

Isn't that everywhere?

I've been thinking of hitting up Boston soon though. Wouldn't there be a lot less college-aged girls?

You would think, but as of late there are a ton of single girls. Why, I have no idea. Let me know when you're in town. Tavern in the Square in Allston is a shit show.

No offense, but some of the ugliest, and fattest girls I've seen at Boston has been at that bar, for over three consecutive years. Going to an Allston bar when school's out is just silly IMO. Unless you live there, you're better off hunting elsewhere.

I'd rather hit on the hot girls than let the ugly ones approach me.

And you guys are totally wrong about the gender balance in Boston. Over age 40 and there are vastly more women than men. Under age 30 and it's more men than women. And that's with the students. Without the students pickings can be slim as men ranged from 20-40 are all gunning for girls in their twenties.

Boston is actually pretty bad for men, but it's better than most small towns or cities in America. By American city standards, Boston is middle of the road. By international standards, it's awful.

And winter time is brutal; I've had a dry spell lasting over a month or more each winter here. And other players I talk to all tell me the same thing.

[DLuzhin]

Another point is that just about every venue is too loud -- blaring, feckless, stupid pop music, maybe 10 decibels too loud.

If you want to approach a girl, you will have to do so while a) there is extremely loud music playing b) she is in a group, and the group is already yelling at each other to be heard over the music.

Most venues have awful physical logistics for approaches. Maybe 1 in 4 bars are amenable to actual conversation.

[Anon-A-Moose]

(06-25-2013 11:22 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I have only been going out for a year so I can't attest to what it was like 2, 5, or 10 years ago.

If guys are less about going out to meet girls nowadays as opposed to days of the past, I think one of the factors might be porn and media entertainment.

But to conclude, I believe porn and media distractions are one of the reasons.

Western women aren't even worth the effort.

[RougeNoir]

(06-25-2013 11:08 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

When I go out, I see large groups of guys who don't seem like they even want to meet girls.

They stand in a corner or near the bar and just drink to get fucked up. They are more about hanging with their bros than with meeting girls.

MikeCF, you've said it yourself that you are more of a daygame person and hit the club with your boys and meeting women isn't necessarily your intent:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-4809-p...l#pid78906

(08-05-2011 02:49 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

One of the many benefits to day game is it costs you nothing to get a chick's #.

I'm about to walk to the gym. My situation is already overloaded (too many girls, and I'm introverted, so texting more than 5 drains me), but if it weren't: I'd get a phone # on the way to the gym. Or at the coffee shop on the way home.

Then I'd meet her at a nearby wine bar for $20 bottle night. With tip, I'm out $25. If the night went well, I'd get her up to my place. I'd open another bottle of wine ($15), or pour her a drink mixed at my bar ($5 in alcohol and mixers)). $30-$40 for the bang.

I only go to clubs when with my boys. If I meet a girl, cool, but that's not my intent.

Of course, some might say you need to account for the cost in living in a cool place/the kind of place where you can play host. That's not accounted for, however, as I'd live here even if it also weren't good for pulling.

My point is daygame is king to all other types imo. Nothing's easier than daygame with an indirect opener. The same girl who would be quick to reject at night has a higher chance of being open to helping with your indirect request. Let your game flow from there. Night time at the bar is a good time to just hang out, talk shit, and act a fool as well as to game.

[soup]

(06-28-2013 12:11 AM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 11:22 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I have only been going out for a year so I can't attest to what it was like 2, 5, or 10 years ago.

If guys are less about going out to meet girls nowadays as opposed to days of the past, I think one of the factors might be porn and media entertainment.

But to conclude, I believe porn and media distractions are one of the reasons.

Western women aren't even worth the effort.

Last night I bounced a Slovakian girl from the bar to my place. She said she had boyfriend back home and was seeing someone here as well (who she claimed be texting constantly at my place).

I went caveman on her and she kept pushing me away telling me to stop. I grabbed her by the back of the hair and held her down and put my lips on her lips. She would oscillate between kissing me and not.

She bit my lip. I put my hand under shirt and grabbed her tit. Then, I reached into her pants and started fingering her. She went along with it for a moment and then pushed me away. She then left in a huff.

I took her name out of my phone and went to sleep because I figured this over and she probably was freaked out or something.

I woke up today and, for some reason I can't explain, texted her that I was going to hook her and her friend up with brunch.

She texted me back enthusiastically and befriended me on Facebook. Then she wrote me a message apologizing for how she acted the night before.

I took it to the edge with her, (to some, it would have looked like I was physically assaulting her), and she apologized to ME.

There's a difference between American and European girls.

[nek]

Honestly, most guys have just been put through the gauntlet too much. Too much flaking, getting screwed over, having a girl act like she's different only to be exactly the same as the last one, getting absolutely chewed out by a girl's friends when you approach her in a group (and they wonder why guys don't approach). I understand that they may not be into the guy that's approaching them, but the rejections could be a lot less harsh and not involve their friends (which makes the rejection feel 'Public').

And then there's women's expectations. Here's my point: I live in a military area (Virginia's Tidewater area, for the better half of a decade now), which equals a lot of fit guys with pretty good pay (consistent at least), and women here saying that guys suck here. They think that a more major city would be better for them. And let's say for arguments sake they're right, that the guys would be 'better' in a place like NYC. What they don't get is that while the guys in NYC might be somewhat better than here, the girls (i.e. there competition) are 20x better than here, both in quality and quantity (of course, quantity affects quality). So I don't know where they think this Eden of Cock exists, because for all intents and purposes, they're in it, and they're still not satisfied.

[Icepasian]

(06-30-2013 03:35 AM)soup Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 12:11 AM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 11:22 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I have only been going out for a year so I can't attest to what it was like 2, 5, or 10 years ago.

If guys are less about going out to meet girls nowadays as opposed to days of the past, I think one of the factors might be porn and media entertainment.

But to conclude, I believe porn and media distractions are one of the reasons.

Western women aren't even worth the effort.

Last night I bounced a Slovakian girl from the bar to my place. She said she had boyfriend back home and was seeing someone here as well (who she claimed be texting constantly at my place).

I went caveman on her and she kept pushing me away telling me to stop. I grabbed her by the back of the hair and held her down and put my lips on her lips. She would oscillate between kissing me and not.

She bit my lip. I put my hand under shirt and grabbed her tit. Then, I reached into her pants and started fingering her. She went along with it for a moment and then pushed me away. She then left in a huff.

I took her name out of my phone and went to sleep because I figured this over and she probably was freaked out or something.

I woke up today and, for some reason I can't explain, texted her that I was going to hook her and her friend up with brunch.

She texted me back enthusiastically and befriended me on Facebook. Then she wrote me a message apologizing for how she acted the night before.

I took it to the edge with her, (to some, it would have looked like I was physically assaulting her), and she apologized to ME.

There's a difference between American and European girls.

Yeah... No offense, but I'd classify that as assault. I think it's better to actually have her go with it from the beginning than to risk ending up on the list of sex offenders.

[Vicious]

Icepasian: Sure you're on the right forum?

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

simple answer. guys don't want to deal with the bitchiness of american women. that's the simplest and straightest answer right there.

like mechanico said, going to clubs/bars in the US is a big waste of time ( i'll rather read a book than go to a bar/club here in the US). there's no need to go off trying to explain some random things when the answer is clearly so obvious.

[Nomad77]

Guys, with all the bashing of American women on here I have to say. In my experience I have met some very nice women here in the US. Granted, they are neurotic and self-absorbed but that's just the culture in general. But have they attacked or treated me badly, no. Now, I have to say, I do screen heavily and I am very good at detecting crazy women. American women cannot compete with EU or SA women when it comes to femininity and sexuality but many try their best with what they have been taught. A Brasilian girl is taught from birth how to be sexual - an American how to be independent and educated. American women will never be like their EU or SA counterparts. They can't be, because we are all a product of our culture and American culture doesn't teach them how.

The point is: even if you say that only 10% of the women are worth dating that still leaves a huge market of millions of women out there. And unless, you are planning on leaving the country I would suggest you spend your energy figuring out how to find these women than complaining about the other 90%

[soup]

(07-01-2013 04:17 AM)Icepasian Wrote:  

(06-30-2013 03:35 AM)soup Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 12:11 AM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 11:22 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I have only been going out for a year so I can't attest to what it was like 2, 5, or 10 years ago.

If guys are less about going out to meet girls nowadays as opposed to days of the past, I think one of the factors might be porn and media entertainment.

But to conclude, I believe porn and media distractions are one of the reasons.

Western women aren't even worth the effort.

Last night I bounced a Slovakian girl from the bar to my place. She said she had boyfriend back home and was seeing someone here as well (who she claimed be texting constantly at my place).

I went caveman on her and she kept pushing me away telling me to stop. I grabbed her by the back of the hair and held her down and put my lips on her lips. She would oscillate between kissing me and not.

She bit my lip. I put my hand under shirt and grabbed her tit. Then, I reached into her pants and started fingering her. She went along with it for a moment and then pushed me away. She then left in a huff.

I took her name out of my phone and went to sleep because I figured this over and she probably was freaked out or something.

I woke up today and, for some reason I can't explain, texted her that I was going to hook her and her friend up with brunch.

She texted me back enthusiastically and befriended me on Facebook. Then she wrote me a message apologizing for how she acted the night before.

I took it to the edge with her, (to some, it would have looked like I was physically assaulting her), and she apologized to ME.

There's a difference between American and European girls.

Yeah... No offense, but I'd classify that as assault. I think it's better to actually have her go with it from the beginning than to risk ending up on the list of sex offenders.

How is it assault if she was reciprocating?

[el mechanico]

I never said anything about bars I said clubs. If there's security it's a controlled environment. It's like trying to smoke weed in front of the cops.

Doorman = avoid

cover= avoid

Bouncer = avoid

Table/bottle service = avoid