Quote: (06-14-2013 08:47 PM)Samseau Wrote:
I'm waiting for you guys to pass laws that force companies to hire college students. Because that's the only way they'll get a job. No one is going to pay for the "privilege" to teach skills to students that never learned shit in school.
You guys are brainwashed. This isn't about politics, it's about economics. WHO IS GOING TO PAY unskilled workers 10 bucks an hour to file papers?
I am willing to bet $100 to anyone that unemployment will rise as a result of this. Who else is willing to put their money where their mouth this?
It will but they will find a way to paper over it. Either by some program that "bridges" youth off internships into other (non existing) jobs (way down be road) simply to give BLS more time until thy have to count them onto the stats sheet, andt they will hope these kids only just look for jobs for a few months then get lazy and stop.
Young adult unemployment is already 40% some casses higher. Just being consertive you could see a 5% jump in that, that's how big this slave trade is.
Agian this proves the smoke and mirrors that is the American economy. A lot of money swirling around and people doing "stuff" but it's all just hot air and activity, there is very little productivity actually going on.
Both sides are right on this - It's pathetic and exploitive that such a large part of the American economy is built of SCAB and free labour because you will always get the worst quality of labour in those situations 100% of the time.
Your under the table paid Mexican picking strawberries provides more value/production to the economy then some loser kid shuffling papers and doing soft admin stuff the firm is to cheap to pay some girl min wage to do.
Of course there is the other end where talented grads get wholesale exploited to do heavy work, and back in the day this was a 'bitch pill' you could swallow for a short period of time as the trade off in connections, and experience was invaluable.
Today that is out the window. I have friends whom have done grad and post grad studies in America and they laugh at the idiots whom have gotten internship posts at places such as the FDA, and CALPERS. Literally kids that would fail first year liberal studies classes in Canada simply for the fact that such a large slave class exists in the world of internships. So gone are the days you could hustle them, it only means anything to use the experience to go international. I can leverage a American coffee running internship into a mid-level position making 34$ a hour here in Canada. I've seen dudes hustle jobs printing files for some shit firm in Chicago and are now high up here in Canadian firms whom love drinking that kool-aid in that assuming all that is 'made in the USA' is indeed better.
This is a blessing and a curse. This game kept legions of youth "employed" and was a Segway into some type of legit work. What will these kids do when those internship jobs don't turn into real ones?
You can smell slave traps when they want you to work 8hr shifts. No fool is going to put free labour out there for more than 5-6hrs per day because you always get poor quality effort and work. There is a point in which that time becomes wasted as a more capable person can do the work in less time. Then the trap comes also of working your slave to the bone where they devote so much time to you that they can barley feed and house themselves. In time they get slower and burnt out and then will agian start producing and giving you less.
The slave owner can live with lazy slaves to a point but when they become lazy because they became smart and aware of the system the slave owner is fucked and his days are numberd - exact shit that has happend here with the ruling.
I see value in proving yourself and it's warranted for many industiries but the whole thing as a whole overall is a slave hustle. If Govt was serious they would force rich and oppulant schools to bring in internships in house and do co-ops to ensure kids learn stuff and it's not exploitive by capping hours. Next lower min wage to open the flood gates to Thkse willing to bust ass for a living. Lowering it frees up cheap and hesitant firms to open and and expand their workforce. Lastly if firms don't like either then leave the 'stipend' option where you have to provide something as in a means to feed and house themselves if you want their labour. Fuck your politics if you can't agree somebody has to be able to feed and house themselves off effort they put forth in labour. If you introduce those options the problem would fix itself in a few months. No chance it happens though so watch the problem tank even further of the cliff.
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