[Lika]

Can we please stop using the word Anti-Western paranoia? I hate this word, it always comes up when someone questions or expresses any concern about the West. People aren't paranoid, they're concerned and worried about it and they have plenty of reasons to be.

:-)

[Teedub]

(06-16-2013 02:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Compare LA of 1960's to LA of today. Not the same culture. While Hispanics weren't bringing down Jihad at least, the old LA that everyone used to love is gone.

Even G Manifesto ditched that place. The old culture is gone.

I don't think you can say the magical 60's-70's era in California, has gone because of immigration from Mexico exclusively. It's gone because it's gone. It's gone because of tons of reasons. For example, black gang culture wasn't there in the 60's. Black people were there, but they weren't in gangs etc.

I'm not American, nor have I ever even been to LA, so I should perhaps leave it actually.

[Tex Pro]

More Putin news:

Russian president: I did not steal Super Bowl ring

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/16/world/euro...?hpt=hp_t2

[Teutatis]

(06-16-2013 03:21 PM)Lika Wrote:  

Can we please stop using the word Anti-Western paranoia? I hate this word, it always comes up when someone questions or expresses any concern about the West. People aren't paranoid, they're concerned and worried about it and they have plenty of reasons to be.

:-)

Was this directed at me? Are you pro Islam or pro Putin? I don't really get what you're trying to say. Anyway, Putin has kept himself in power thanks to the commodities boom of the past years, namely gas and oil, not because he's doing a great job. And he does play the paranoia card, everything wrong in Russia he blames on the west. I like Putin for some reasons, but let's not pretend he's not a de facto dictator or that he's some great guy that's a great president and is doing an awesome job in Russia just because you see internet pictures praising him and it's cool to like him.

And that smiley face just looked stupid, see? :-)

[luggage]

i agree putin is always blaming the west. Wasnt he pro-feminism or some shit?

Edit: thats where i read somewhere (pr feminis) not really blaming the guy

[Samseau]

(06-16-2013 03:26 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(06-16-2013 02:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Compare LA of 1960's to LA of today. Not the same culture. While Hispanics weren't bringing down Jihad at least, the old LA that everyone used to love is gone.

Even G Manifesto ditched that place. The old culture is gone.

I don't think you can say the magical 60's-70's era in California, has gone because of immigration from Mexico exclusively. It's gone because it's gone. It's gone because of tons of reasons. For example, black gang culture wasn't there in the 60's. Black people were there, but they weren't in gangs etc.

I'm not American, nor have I ever even been to LA, so I should perhaps leave it actually.

Nah, it's pretty much entirely because of immigration. With immigration crime increased and so did the need for a police state and curfews, which killed the nightlife.

Compare that to NYC: Manhattan has been the worldwide nightlife capital for almost 100 years, because it's stayed closer to it's original white culture.

[Duke Castile]

I lived in LA and Southern California for 8 years. LA is a shithole because of 2 things, 3rd world people bringing over their problems and shitting out future criminal babies and throwing their mayonaise slathered corncobs on the street with the rest of their garbage and the other is the liberal policies that encourage their immigration.

For the record, that is not a racist statement. That is a statement that is addressing class and culture.

Anyway, those people are not as bad as the Islamic problem in Europe.

I was telling thedude about a girl I met that is on vacation from her job as a chef for some princess in Saudi Arabia.

The shit she was telling THC and I was unreal and the casual way she was explaining things added to how horrifying these people really are.

She was saying servants were regularly jailed for infractions like not making food a specific way, killed for letting dirt be on a piece of lettuce and raped for letting their hair show.

White men are raped and killed their because they are white.

She is terrified to go back but thinks she has to because a company that recruited her made her sign a contract. They are actually holding her passport.

I put her in touch with a lawyer out here who knows someone in the govt.

Figured I'd work on my karmic deficit.

I also fed a stray kitten yesterday.

I'm on a roll.

[PoosyWrecker]

Man Prosal, you're calling these guys 'inbred crackers' but at the same time you call out people for being 'racist' 'xenophobic'. You're the one being 'racist' against working class and rural whites!

You strike me as the typical rich, elitist white guy who looks down at the very people who built your nation with the hands and make your lifestyle possible.

[Lika]

>>Was this directed at me?

Yes

>>Are you pro Islam or pro Putin?

Neither one nor the other but I am not pro "Western" or pro "USA" either

I agree with you that the term "Islamophobia" is a rhetorical tool to prevent any critic or doubt towards something, in this case Islam. Just as antisemitism, "israeolophobia" (recently coined in France) or anti-Western Paranoia...

I am not saying that Putin is the best leader for Russia or that he is not paranoid but I think he is much better for Russia than the oligarchs before him or than any pro-American Russian leader.

And trust me, the USA and the international banking system it supports are actively trying to fuck Russia up any way they can, i.e.: the colour revolutions in Ukraine and Georgia, the situation of Romania and Moldova, the power struggles in Syria, the Femen/pussy riots movements to destabilize Putin, the recent robbing of Russian assets in Cyprus, etc., etc.

As Kissinger once said: "Even a paranoid can have enemies"

[iknowexactly]

(06-16-2013 07:00 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I lived in LA and Southern California for 8 years. LA is a shithole because of 2 things, 3rd world people bringing over their problems and shitting out future criminal babies and throwing their mayonaise slathered corncobs on the street with the rest of their garbage and the other is the liberal policies that encourage their immigration.

I agree with you on NOT allowing a lot of immigration to the US, but I am a total pinko liberal-- that's why I argue against that type of too-general label. People don't fit into these super simple, one-or-two types of categories. It's more fun and productive to argue the specific issues, like immigration or gun control.

I'm a liberal on gay marriage, I own stock in astro-glide ( just kidding) but since Americans are absolutely in love with guns I don't see the point in fighting about it. You could never win and most legal gun owners are uprigth citizens and aren't going to kill me.

All the social issues seem to me to be used to obscure the bigger money/power issues.

[iknowexactly]

(06-16-2013 03:26 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(06-16-2013 02:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Compare LA of 1960's to LA of today. Not the same culture. While Hispanics weren't bringing down Jihad at least, the old LA that everyone used to love is gone.

Even G Manifesto ditched that place. The old culture is gone.

I don't think you can say the magical 60's-70's era in California, has gone because of immigration from Mexico exclusively. It's gone because it's gone. It's gone because of tons of reasons.

A lot of problems have their roots in over population. Real estate becoming so expensive people center their lives around it. I remember certain periods I lived in New York when that's all people talked about at parties. California has almost doubled in population since the 1960's I believe.

But it's so big there's still a lot of places you don't see ANYONE. You could hike in the Sierras for 100 years and never go the same place twice.Calif: 242/sq mi Population density. Less than half Italy's 513/ sq mi.

So you can imagine the vast feeling of space that was here when it as only 120 / sq mi. Plus an amazingly agreeable climate if you like warm and dry.

The hyper acceleration of modern capitalism, or technocratism, whatever you want to call it is fucking things up everywhere in some ways.

The goal of capitalism is to reduce all human interaction to the cash nexus.

[iknowexactly]

(06-16-2013 04:14 AM)Galnuc69 Wrote:  

(06-16-2013 03:19 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(06-15-2013 04:55 PM)Galnuc69 Wrote:  

(06-12-2013 10:12 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

A certain ethnic group that has absolutely no power in media or finance...

A certain ethnic group? WTF? Why are you self censoring? What is this ethnic group, O possessor of secret knowledge? If you have a point make and defend it, don't drop hints like a 13 year old girl.

Because those who have power, you cannot criticize, I am smart enough to know when to criticize them and know when to not. Pointing out the obvious in this case isn't worth getting banned from a forum I rather like. I think you are honestly smart enough to know who I am alluding to, since you got so butt hurt over it. You take it personally or something?

I take all form of spreading racial-religious hatred and mistrust personally, no matter how sneaky the presentation, because in my view of history no good comes of it, and plenty of horrible, horrible murder has clearly come from it.

I am fortunate enough to come from an ethnic group that seems to invite little hostility or suspicion; and I am grateful for that trusting treatment from others. I hope for others to get a fair chance in life as well.

Haven't you seen the pictures of obviously innocent genocide victims? Do you really want to be supporting that in any way shape or form?

I am not a moron advocating totally free immigration to the USA or not being selective in who we let in. But that's different than letting simmering malevolent stereotypes that lead to horror be preached without challenge.

[Anon-A-Moose]

(06-17-2013 03:28 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

The goal of capitalism is to reduce all human interaction to the cash nexus

[The Patriarch]

It's more than obvious that there are some men on this forum who don't even bother to accept the central tenets of red-pill wisdom. Or are there only partially. To those I say make sure you swallow that pill fully because no man is more ridiculous-sounding than a man who swallowed the pill partially.

Now, you don't have to believe in red pill to chase women, but arguing about truth while plugged in the Matrix is a fool's errand.

[Veloce]

(06-16-2013 07:00 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I lived in LA and Southern California for 8 years. LA is a shithole because of 2 things, 3rd world people bringing over their problems and shitting out future criminal babies and throwing their mayonaise slathered corncobs on the street with the rest of their garbage and the other is the liberal policies that encourage their immigration.

Tellin' it like it is. I've been in SoCal my whole life, and my family on my mom's side has lived here since the 40s. My grandpa set up shop in a small town north of L.A. after WWII.

I've talked with my uncles about what life was like there during the 60s. It's insane. Every weekend, high school and college kids would flood the beaches and throw massive parties. Bonfires, drinking, sex, drugs, you name it.

When I was in high school, we'd throw bonfire parties and we'd see the beach patrol buggies off in the distance and we knew party's over. After a certain point we just stopped trying and kept it to house parties, which of course would also get raided by cops.

Even more off topic: My dad moved to Santa Barbara in '69 after he got out of Vietnam. Anyone who surfs has heard of Rincon, it's one of the most famous surf spots on the west coast. He said you'd be LUCKY to go out there and see a couple other guys, that you looked forward to it so you'd have someone to talk to. This is Rincon:


This is Rincon now:


10 guys fighting for each wave.

My point is I'm normally not one for glorifying the past, but by all objective accounts it seems like southern california in the 60s to early 70s was really an amazing place, a once-per-generation thing of being in the right place at the right time.

[Cyr]

Haha has anyone seen this:
http://www.tomatobubble.com/putin_obama.html

[Lika]

>>Man Prosal, you're calling these guys 'inbred crackers' but at the same time you call out people for being 'racist' 'xenophobic'

Prosal has become a bit Brazilian (with a Corsican touch), he knows France social problems very well but he hates it when Gringos talk about them

[chyamor]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/7-remarkab...40694.html

Putin suffers not from kleptomania, but the more obscure pleonexia — "the insatiable desire to have what rightfully belongs to others."

[A CLOCKWORK TRADER]

(06-16-2013 07:00 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I was telling thedude about a girl I met that is on vacation from her job as a chef for some princess in Saudi Arabia.

The shit she was telling THC and I was unreal and the casual way she was explaining things added to how horrifying these people really are.

She was saying servants were regularly jailed for infractions like not making food a specific way, killed for letting dirt be on a piece of lettuce and raped for letting their hair show.

White men are raped and killed their because they are white.

She is terrified to go back but thinks she has to because a company that recruited her made her sign a contract. They are actually holding her passport.

I put her in touch with a lawyer out here who knows someone in the govt.

I'm not surprised really. I've read articles throughout the years detailing their excess and violence towards the people that work for them. Here are a few articles:
Saudi Princess throws maid down the stairs
Gay Saudi Prince beats his servant to death
£11MILLION seized from Saudi Princess to help pay her extravagant shopping bills

[Teutatis]

(06-17-2013 03:14 AM)Lika Wrote:  

>>Was this directed at me?

Yes

>>Are you pro Islam or pro Putin?

Neither one nor the other but I am not pro "Western" or pro "USA" either

I agree with you that the term "Islamophobia" is a rhetorical tool to prevent any critic or doubt towards something, in this case Islam. Just as antisemitism, "israeolophobia" (recently coined in France) or anti-Western Paranoia...

I am not saying that Putin is the best leader for Russia or that he is not paranoid but I think he is much better for Russia than the oligarchs before him or than any pro-American Russian leader.

And trust me, the USA and the international banking system it supports are actively trying to fuck Russia up any way they can, i.e.: the colour revolutions in Ukraine and Georgia, the situation of Romania and Moldova, the power struggles in Syria, the Femen/pussy riots movements to destabilize Putin, the recent robbing of Russian assets in Cyprus, etc., etc.

As Kissinger once said: "Even a paranoid can have enemies"

I agree with pretty much everything you said, we're on the same page on this, I would just say he's not "better" for Russia than the oligarchs, but less bad. Also, just because there are forces acting against Putin and trying to destabilize Russia, which there are, it doesn't make him a good guy, he's still rotten.

[tiggaling]

Putin is also really doing well politically at the moment, standing up on an important issue.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/06/19/...-on-syria/

Quote:

I agree with pretty much everything you said, we're on the same page on this, I would just say he's not "better" for Russia than the oligarchs, but less bad. Also, just because there are forces acting against Putin and trying to destabilize Russia, which there are, it doesn't make him a good guy, he's still rotten.

Well, he's a helluva lot less rotten than the forces behind the western governments I would argue.

At the moment, it is so damn blatently obvious what they are wanting to do to a sovereign country like Syria is motivated by monetary agendas.

[Dr.Benway]

...

[PoosyWrecker]

(06-20-2013 01:55 AM)Dr.Benway Wrote:  

for all the valiant defenders of western civilization - putin does nothing to stop the massive influx of cheap and illegal labour from central asia. arresting some muslims and having the state owned media outlets do a report on how he is "fighting crime" is a little transparent, dont you think?

Yeah that's what I was asking about, talk is cheap! I suspect Putin is no different from our own GOP when they jabber about secure borders...

[speakeasy]

(06-17-2013 11:37 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

(06-16-2013 07:00 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I lived in LA and Southern California for 8 years. LA is a shithole because of 2 things, 3rd world people bringing over their problems and shitting out future criminal babies and throwing their mayonaise slathered corncobs on the street with the rest of their garbage and the other is the liberal policies that encourage their immigration.

Tellin' it like it is. I've been in SoCal my whole life, and my family on my mom's side has lived here since the 40s. My grandpa set up shop in a small town north of L.A. after WWII.

I've talked with my uncles about what life was like there during the 60s. It's insane. Every weekend, high school and college kids would flood the beaches and throw massive parties. Bonfires, drinking, sex, drugs, you name it.

When I was in high school, we'd throw bonfire parties and we'd see the beach patrol buggies off in the distance and we knew party's over. After a certain point we just stopped trying and kept it to house parties, which of course would also get raided by cops.

Even more off topic: My dad moved to Santa Barbara in '69 after he got out of Vietnam. Anyone who surfs has heard of Rincon, it's one of the most famous surf spots on the west coast. He said you'd be LUCKY to go out there and see a couple other guys, that you looked forward to it so you'd have someone to talk to. This is Rincon:


This is Rincon now:


10 guys fighting for each wave.

My point is I'm normally not one for glorifying the past, but by all objective accounts it seems like southern california in the 60s to early 70s was really an amazing place, a once-per-generation thing of being in the right place at the right time.

I'm not quick to buy into this "everything was so much better in the past" thing. Yes in some ways things were, for certain people. Homes were more affordable here, taxes were lower, schools were better, that sort of thing. But people who looked like me never experienced this golden California. I recently watched a documentary called Whitewashed. It's about black surfers past and present. Blacks used to get jumped by whites when they went to the beach. I'm talking Venice Beach at that! This was back in the Beach Boys, Franky and Annette era. There were very specific parts of the beach that blacks could safely go and they didn't stray far from there. Much of this is now forgotten. I just say this to remind everyone that there are many perspectives and when we hear of the golden age of California, it is from a white, middle-class perspective. It was not necessarily great for anyone outside that demographic. I can at least chill on Santa Monica beach now. 60 years ago I couldn't without risk.

Places are always in flux and what made a place great 50 years ago may be entirely different from what makes a place great now. Would McQueen be able to have the lifestyle in L.A. he has now back in 1950? Doubtful. Where there all these great international restaurants here back then? Were there all these cute Korean girls to fuck? Was there the Venice Boardwalk full of hotties for Vitaly to day game? Where there as many nightlife options? People born here now will grow up thinking it's just great and wonder what all these old fogies are complaining about.

(06-16-2013 02:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Compare LA of 1960's to LA of today. Not the same culture. While Hispanics weren't bringing down Jihad at least, the old LA that everyone used to love is gone.

You do realize that there's always been a large Hispanic population here, right? Afterall this used to be Mexico. In fact the percentage of Mexicans now is probably similar to what it was during the city's founding. They never went anywhere. It's just that the glamorized version of socal culture in the 50s-60s only focuses on the white middle class icons like hot rods, surfers and Disneyland and pretty much ignored the black and Chicano experience here.

[Teedub]

(06-16-2013 05:29 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

We're very far from the ridiculous numbers that the Eurabia far-right conspirationists promote. So no, I don't think that there is significant issues with integration in France. Maybe Fox News say that there is issues with integration here, but it's BS. We do have social problems with young guys from arabic or african descent living in poor suburbs, but most of those young guys being non-practising, it's social problems, not religious problems. Never been in Sweden.

Here's the latest news from that place. Sweden never had an empire, they weren't colonialist, so I have no idea why the level of self-hatred and white guilt exists there.

Read this, and then tell me with a straight face that there isn't a serious problem with Islam, and perhaps more so with European apologists/appeasement.