[Caramel Communist]

(09-28-2010 01:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Biggest difference: it's very easy to open. Black girls never get approached by white guys so she'll encourage me in the first couple minutes with smiles and zero testing. I see black guys approach black girls and the girls definitely put an attitude, sometimes not even holding eye contact. The white man gets the benefit of the doubt. She's curious and will give you attention for the first couple minutes, which if you have game is all you need to start building interest.

It seems like black girls have an automatic program to turn down a black guy off the bat. He has to work just to earn to chance to spit game.

Yep, very true....alot of white guys don't know it, but black girls will give you guys time and day if you approach. But for me, I have to go thru the whole Klingon mating battle ritual with these chicks....

[Caramel Communist]

(09-28-2010 10:32 PM)Johnny Dakota Wrote:  

The age of the black girl makes a big difference too. When I was in college most of the young hot black girls would easily take a DMX black guy over a Boris Kudjoe black guy. Myself and other well-educated, tall and attractive black guys had no chance with a lot of these chicks because we came from wealthy families and weren't hood enough. They didn't care if you were a med student or a law student or you went to Harvard or you could spit game. They want a bad boy. Chicks are all the same. Fast forward 8 years though and these same chicks are all desperately hollering at all of the same guys they rejected in college who are now rich and successful (and only smashing white and spanish chicks).

So true...it's funny as hell and then you hear em bitching about not being able to find a good man to marry...

[InternationalSwagger]

(09-28-2010 11:23 PM)Caramel Communist Wrote:  

(09-28-2010 01:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Biggest difference: it's very easy to open. Black girls never get approached by white guys so she'll encourage me in the first couple minutes with smiles and zero testing. I see black guys approach black girls and the girls definitely put an attitude, sometimes not even holding eye contact. The white man gets the benefit of the doubt. She's curious and will give you attention for the first couple minutes, which if you have game is all you need to start building interest.

It seems like black girls have an automatic program to turn down a black guy off the bat. He has to work just to earn to chance to spit game.

Yep, very true....alot of white guys don't know it, but black girls will give you guys time and day if you approach. But for me, I have to go thru the whole Klingon mating battle ritual with these chicks....

Overall I dont think what you guys are saying is true. If your good looking its easy to open ANYONE of any race. If you look creepy White, Black, Asian no women will give you the time of day. Especially a sista. I dont have any problem with approaching Black Women whatsoever. Guess It depends on self really. I consider myself a good catch and attractive so females in general dont have any issues when I approach. So once again If your good looking of any race Black Females shouldnt have a problem talking to you like most other women. It's all about your confidence and game.

I'd love to see Roosh test his game theory here in Atlanta or in DC at the former Club Love and other similiar places where I go out. I dont think it would work on the type of Middle Class Upscale Educated Black Women I pull on the regular. The HBCU...Howard, Spelman, Hampton Bourgeoisie chick...Matter a fact here is a free pass for this Saturday Night in your backyard in DC at Club Love http://www.lovetheclub.com/ let us know how It goes .

[clr]

Either way I am heading to ATL, there are some FINE sisters there, tho I like the mix, not mucher hotter then a latina or japanese mixed with black.... sexy as hell, with curves and caramel skin... mmmmm as long as they dont have the black american bitch personality some have mentioned here it makes for one hell of a woman! Who wants to show me around???? .... I love when they say they are chocolate, I just say I am white chocolate and I am delicious! lmao! Good night guys its my birthday!

[InternationalSwagger]

(09-28-2010 01:53 PM)clr Wrote:  

Yeah unfortunately decent smooth guys like IS and a few others on this board have to pay for the ignorant ass holes that walk her to her constantly saying shit like, "man uz a fine bitch" then licking their lips, and other even more offensive shit, then they wonder why so many black women act like bitches, shit I know I would. I've seen it soooo many times, unfortunately the rap culture promotes that shit, and I just shake my head.

Now, my man from jamaica just posted this on FB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rt3Hikejsc if more guys were smoother they would probably get a lot more play. My jamaican friend is a good looking black guy that dresses well and has good game, he does well in the USA, but talks a lot of shit about the American black man. Of course he talks shit about the jamaican dred lock dudes too hahaha but he's an educated guy that owns his own company and has traveled the world.

Thanks for the compliment CLR...and what you say is very true...I've seen it 1st hand in most of urban America. But the thing is most quality Black Women can tell the difference between a hood and a brotha like me so I really dont have that problem because I approach women in a totally different fashion and environment so I get 100% cooperation along with my other friends unless they have 0 game which is rare with the cats I went to school and grew up with.

Regarding your friends post from Jamaica...I guess he doesnt hang out or know middle class to upper class Black people because all of the Black guys I hang with and who are in my circle dress smooth and are educated with big things popping. Once again I think the opinions most white guys and popular culture form are from media stereotyping and the people you associate with or viewed growing up. My world is much different as I interact and know Well Off, Successful, Well Dressed Black Folks all over the USA. Different Strokes for Different Folks I guess.

[clr]

Thanks, and you are welcome IS, I grew up all over, unfortunately there are many more ignorant brothas around then smooth cats in the real world, and I hate to say it because I hate the fuckin word, but the way most white people think is there are good black and there are niggars(damn hate even typing the word), just like there are good white and there are white trash crackers(if you will). I think many blacks think white people are prejudice when from what I have seen they are not, they just hate the black trash that occupy many of the streets, but just as much as they hate the white trash that do as well.

But everyone is scared to talk about it from fear of seeming racist, or prejudice. Its really sad, but the cool black guys I have as friends are FAAAAARRRRR out numbered by the trash and dirtbags I see in the streets. For every great black friend I have or meet, there are at least a hundred ghetto ass mutha fuckers rolling around with their baggy ass clothes.... sadly not even all of those guys are bad, I have a few friends like that, im like "pull your damn pants, ass" HAHAHAHA but they give a bad impression.

anyway have a great peaceful night full of beautiful women, I am off to bed to prepare for my fuck fest of a birthday later today! In colombia of course!

[InternationalSwagger]

We can agree to disagree and that's ok It's always cool to share various viewpoints and that's how we all learn...BTW I hate the trash just as much as you CLR...Happy birthday and get it in down in Colombia...I love that place and need to pay a visit soon It's been too long!

[Caramel Communist]

(09-29-2010 02:12 AM)InternationalSwagger Wrote:  

(09-28-2010 11:23 PM)Caramel Communist Wrote:  

(09-28-2010 01:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Biggest difference: it's very easy to open. Black girls never get approached by white guys so she'll encourage me in the first couple minutes with smiles and zero testing. I see black guys approach black girls and the girls definitely put an attitude, sometimes not even holding eye contact. The white man gets the benefit of the doubt. She's curious and will give you attention for the first couple minutes, which if you have game is all you need to start building interest.

It seems like black girls have an automatic program to turn down a black guy off the bat. He has to work just to earn to chance to spit game.

Yep, very true....alot of white guys don't know it, but black girls will give you guys time and day if you approach. But for me, I have to go thru the whole Klingon mating battle ritual with these chicks....

Overall I dont think what you guys are saying is true. If your good looking its easy to open ANYONE of any race. If you look creepy White, Black, Asian no women will give you the time of day. Especially a sista. I dont have any problem with approaching Black Women whatsoever. Guess It depends on self really. I consider myself a good catch and attractive so females in general dont have any issues when I approach. So once again If your good looking of any race Black Females shouldnt have a problem talking to you like most other women. It's all about your confidence and game.

I'd love to see Roosh test his game theory here in Atlanta or in DC at the former Club Love and other similiar places where I go out. I dont think it would work on the type of Middle Class Upscale Educated Black Women I pull on the regular. The HBCU...Howard, Spelman, Hampton Bourgeoisie chick...Matter a fact here is a free pass for this Saturday Night in your backyard in DC at Club Love http://www.lovetheclub.com/ let us know how It goes .

Lmao those middle class upscale educated black women that fall in the 70 percent who are single percentile? I have seen many of white guys walk into love/dream/14th park/republic gardens/marvin/h2o and the million other venues and clean up...I'd put my money on Roosh, especially if he's cleanly dressed.....as for me, it took me a while to figure DC sista's out.... I'm a handsome bloke and I'm not talking e-shit, but alot of em wanted to play the whole status game which I find laughable considering the history of AA community.Some even tried to run that Jack and Jill bullshit at me...
..

[clr]

ok, usually im pretty smart... can you explain that last one HAHA! jack and jill?

[playa_with_a_passport]

(09-29-2010 02:12 AM)InternationalSwagger Wrote:  

(09-28-2010 11:23 PM)Caramel Communist Wrote:  

(09-28-2010 01:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Biggest difference: it's very easy to open. Black girls never get approached by white guys so she'll encourage me in the first couple minutes with smiles and zero testing. I see black guys approach black girls and the girls definitely put an attitude, sometimes not even holding eye contact. The white man gets the benefit of the doubt. She's curious and will give you attention for the first couple minutes, which if you have game is all you need to start building interest.

It seems like black girls have an automatic program to turn down a black guy off the bat. He has to work just to earn to chance to spit game.

Yep, very true....alot of white guys don't know it, but black girls will give you guys time and day if you approach. But for me, I have to go thru the whole Klingon mating battle ritual with these chicks....

Overall I dont think what you guys are saying is true. If your good looking its easy to open ANYONE of any race. If you look creepy White, Black, Asian no women will give you the time of day. Especially a sista. I dont have any problem with approaching Black Women whatsoever. Guess It depends on self really. I consider myself a good catch and attractive so females in general dont have any issues when I approach. So once again If your good looking of any race Black Females shouldnt have a problem talking to you like most other women. It's all about your confidence and game.

I'd love to see Roosh test his game theory here in Atlanta or in DC at the former Club Love and other similiar places where I go out. I dont think it would work on the type of Middle Class Upscale Educated Black Women I pull on the regular. The HBCU...Howard, Spelman, Hampton Bourgeoisie chick...Matter a fact here is a free pass for this Saturday Night in your backyard in DC at Club Love http://www.lovetheclub.com/ let us know how It goes .

ISW, I believe Southern and West Coast Black women are a total different animal than their East Coast cousins. I hate to generalized but most NY black chicks have absolutely zero respect for Black men. It just take a lot effort breaking down the attitude and bitch shields of every Sistas you meet. After a while it gets old and tiring. And this is in shape middle class sistas I am talking about because I don't deal with hood rats. I guess this is the reason why a lot of PUA/dating Black blog authors who are on the East Coast single handling only fuck White women. Sistas should really learn some Game from White women who at least wait until they are married and have that first kid to start acting like total cunts.

[speakeasy]

(09-28-2010 01:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Biggest difference: it's very easy to open. Black girls never get approached by white guys so she'll encourage me in the first couple minutes with smiles and zero testing. I see black guys approach black girls and the girls definitely put an attitude, sometimes not even holding eye contact. The white man gets the benefit of the doubt. She's curious and will give you attention for the first couple minutes, which if you have game is all you need to start building interest.

It seems like black girls have an automatic program to turn down a black guy off the bat. He has to work just to earn to chance to spit game.

I'd never heard this before, but makes sense. I have had non-black females admit to me that they think black guys are all pretty much a bunch of dogs and players and way too aggressive. We always have to work hard to get over that stereotype no matter what the race of women. I think a white guy can be just as much of a dog and player but he can more easily fly under the radar. I seriously think black guys need a someone modified set of rules in the gamebook dealing with the stereotype issues we have to overcome. PUAs tend to be be against acting like a "nice guy" but it might actually help a black dude to play up the nice guy bit...just a little anyway.

[Caramel Communist]

(10-01-2010 02:43 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

(09-29-2010 02:12 AM)InternationalSwagger Wrote:  

(09-28-2010 11:23 PM)Caramel Communist Wrote:  

(09-28-2010 01:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Biggest difference: it's very easy to open. Black girls never get approached by white guys so she'll encourage me in the first couple minutes with smiles and zero testing. I see black guys approach black girls and the girls definitely put an attitude, sometimes not even holding eye contact. The white man gets the benefit of the doubt. She's curious and will give you attention for the first couple minutes, which if you have game is all you need to start building interest.

It seems like black girls have an automatic program to turn down a black guy off the bat. He has to work just to earn to chance to spit game.

Yep, very true....alot of white guys don't know it, but black girls will give you guys time and day if you approach. But for me, I have to go thru the whole Klingon mating battle ritual with these chicks....

Overall I dont think what you guys are saying is true. If your good looking its easy to open ANYONE of any race. If you look creepy White, Black, Asian no women will give you the time of day. Especially a sista. I dont have any problem with approaching Black Women whatsoever. Guess It depends on self really. I consider myself a good catch and attractive so females in general dont have any issues when I approach. So once again If your good looking of any race Black Females shouldnt have a problem talking to you like most other women. It's all about your confidence and game.

I'd love to see Roosh test his game theory here in Atlanta or in DC at the former Club Love and other similiar places where I go out. I dont think it would work on the type of Middle Class Upscale Educated Black Women I pull on the regular. The HBCU...Howard, Spelman, Hampton Bourgeoisie chick...Matter a fact here is a free pass for this Saturday Night in your backyard in DC at Club Love http://www.lovetheclub.com/ let us know how It goes .

ISW, I believe Southern and West Coast Black women are a total different animal than their East Coast cousins. I hate to generalized but most NY black chicks have absolutely zero respect for Black men. It just take a lot effort breaking down the attitude and bitch shields of every Sistas you meet. After a while it gets old and tiring. And this is in shape middle class sistas I am talking about because I don't deal with hood rats. I guess this is the reason why a lot of PUA/dating Black blog authors who are on the East Coast single handling only fuck White women. Sistas should really learn some Game from White women who at least wait until they are married and have that first kid to start acting like total cunts.

Lmaoooo....nice post....

Eastcoasters are the worst by miles...cali/pnw are the best and I would say southern as well that don't grow up inner city. I wouldn't say be like white women per se but get rid of the fake alpha persona's/hyper aggressive behavior and stop trying to act like men...

[iknowexactly]

' Wrote:

Playa wrote--Sistas should really learn some Game from White women who at least wait until they are married and have that first kid to start acting like total cunts.

Oh my.

hahahhahahahha , oh MAN, that's brutal. Brutal.
Proof the world is bleak.
I'm just at a loss for words at the perfection of this assault.

[iknowexactly]

This is really making me think. I had a white female friend who was, let's say not too attractive-- maybe a 4-5.
She talked about how one time when she was younger and more attractive ( she was very intelligent and had a very cute face, all her attractiveness had been lost through weight gain.) a Black professional athlete picked her up, f'd her. He was in a car when he saw her and started talking to her.

I was just learning beginnings of game and I asked what the very first thing he said to her was. It took a minute for her to remember, but she said he'd asked "What's your name. "

Another chubby White woman I knew described how Black guys came on to her and she described it as (with the implication it was effective) "They flatter the shit out of you. "

I've just realized Black girls may be a great resource for me right now. Confidence is sort of shot, getting older, yet I notice even extremely young (TOO young) Black girls check me out. ( I have long blond hair.) I think they like the sort of uptight white doctor vibe I give.

This would also help with the fact I'm only attracted to women 18-26; which is 20+ years younger than me. White chicks that age are too hard to get right now.

But I do feel sort of out of place in a club where I'm the ONLY white guy. I've got to find a fringe neighborhood, where all the races are present. I live in Sacramento, any suggestions?

[speakeasy]

(10-02-2010 04:30 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Another chubby White woman I knew described how Black guys came on to her and she described it as (with the implication it was effective) "They flatter the shit out of you. "

Flattering the shit out of chubby woman(who already has low self-esteem) is probably an effective strategy of getting in her pants. Now whether these blacks guys actually believe what they're saying is another question.

[Rocco81]

Very good points here.

I find that most of the black girls I've met over the years (save for a few..) are pretty open to new stuff, (ie music, cultures,languages etc.) and were very down to something new other than going to the same old R&B or hip hop clubs.

Matter of fact I hooked with a fine ass...like super veluptious stacked very dark black girl in VA Beach a few weeks ago. She was super sweet and I will be seeing her again I think.

[MiXX]

Til this day, and all the women from different races I have banged around the globe: Brazilian, Colombian, Japanese-Brazilian, Hindi, Puerto Rican, Korean, Dominican, White American, Slovenian....the best blow job I have EVER gotten in my life was a black girl from Atlanta....damn!

I have never seen a woman truly worship going down on me like this Atlanta black cutie did...maybe because I am cleanly shaved/waxed in that area?

Mixx

[Rocco81]

iknow exactly: My post above pertains to you in a way. Def. younger black girls are more plentifull in the kind of club you really don't belong in, but keep in mind that they def. love to go do other things.

It's probably the best thing to avoid big techno or hip hop clubs when you're in your 40's with long blonde hair..but hit a lounge dressed sharp and I am assuming you keep your long hair well groomed and pulled back when you go out? You pick them up at the grocery store, gym etc. and then take them to a "white boy" bar. Some of the black girls I know love to go to the hole in the wall typical white guy sports bar, hear some different music, maybe shoot pool have some wings and a few beers. They end up getting allot of attention and its new for them.

[MiXX]

(09-29-2010 03:18 AM)clr Wrote:  

the way most white people think is there are good black and there are niggars(damn hate even typing the word), just like there are good white and there are white trash crackers(if you will).

There are also Latinos (like me) and ignorant SPICS (if you will) who give latinos a bad rep.

I think every race has its educated and lower uneducated class.

Mixx

[clr]

interesting Rocco, I like that.... time for some fun... Good advice.

@ Mixx I am down here in Costa rica, the people here in the mountains are some of the stupidest people I have met, BUT they are super nice and friendly and good people. Ignorance is everywhere unfortunately, but I did just spend the night in a jacuzzi with 7 18/19 year old girls with my buddy Good times. The morena raped me in the shower jajajaja

[hydrogonian]

(10-07-2010 10:33 AM)MiXXmaster27 Wrote:  

(09-29-2010 03:18 AM)clr Wrote:  

the way most white people think is there are good black and there are niggars(damn hate even typing the word), just like there are good white and there are white trash crackers(if you will).

There are also Latinos (like me) and ignorant SPICS (if you will) who give latinos a bad rep.

I think every race has its educated and lower uneducated class.

Mixx

So, when approaching the educated black woman, take it slow and cautious. She might be the hottest fuck on two feet, as those women can be, and when she's smart its a dangerously attractive combination. But you might also be dealing with her weird upbringing if her extended family is ghetto. You have to wait to see how she treats other people, and to see what her family is like. Those will likely be your only clues as to who your are really dealing with. She might be very cunning in terms of being out for herself. Or she might be as 'normal' as a woman can be. You have to wait to see.

But I assume you just want to bang her. In that case, play up your job and sophistication level, as that will validate her own image of herself, which is likely in dire need of constant attention and nurturing. The traditional romance/dinner (not first date of course)/ short vacation stuff will work wonders with her. You can have her wanting to marry you if you treat her right. Much different than the average hot white girl, in many ways. But if you wanted long term, I wouldn't set her expectations high with that treatment. So it really depends on what you would want from her. Long term, treat her regularly and see what type of personality emerges. If you just want to bang, give her the treatment.

The caveat is if she had a truly upper/middle class upbringing. Find out what daddy does for a living and what type of high school she went to. If daddy is wealthy, she grew up in a wealthy suburb or went to private school, you have to treat her like every other spoiled over-priveldged girl that you would meet. A little shitty. At least in some subtle ways. Turn down the romancing a notch and turn up the directness. Otherwise, what I said before probably applies.

[Rocco81]

Mixx good point. The mean average latino I met (even the ones from lower education) are usually still pretty cool and hardworking people. However I could not imagine growing up with some of the lower class PR/DR crowd that you did. I met some Nuevo Ricans/Dominicans from The Bronx .. fuck man what can I say? I saw and heard so much fucked up shit coming out of that New York Latino culture it shocked me. Im talking like backwards ass shit....stuff you only think that hillbilly's get away with.

[InternationPlayboy]

Man, last week I met a real cute black girl who was well educated and had just opened a hair salon in Phoenix. She spoke English, Spanish, and Portuguese. I was just talking about how I wanted to bang one of the hot black girls we have here in Miami on the forum, so I was kind of stoked on it. I see her today and stop her to talk to her since she didn't see me (I got her name wrong, thought it was Giselle but it was Jasmine). She grabbed my hand as she was talking to me, this girl is super sweet. But then I look over at the other butch black girl next to her, and ask the girl I was interested what she was up to since she was leaving the bar. She said she was going to get a tattoo. I asked of what and where. Her assumed lover at this point says, "My face right in between her tits." So now I'm not sure if this girl is a dyke, which would suck, or bysexual, which would be a huge plus. Guess I'm gonna have to do a little more investigating. I def. feel like I'll see her again, I've seen her twice in a week. South Beach is actually much smaller than I thought it would be. I keep seeing a lot of the same faces. I also so a kid that was on my flight to Miami from Charlotte! I thought it was nuts, but strangely enough the kid made it seem like it was an every day occurance for him. It was kind of weird.

[InternationPlayboy]

And by the way, it gave me mad rep. with the two black dudes I had just met who were trying to get with the group of girls I was hanging out with this weekend. The girls left and we stayed, hung out, drank beer and watched the games. I handled the interaction very cool, calm, and collected. As soon as they saw that one of them said, "Damn, we gotta start hanging out with this kid more often."

[Dash Global]

never banged a black chick. one chick i fucked in brazil was almost black though but she dont count. lol