[WestCoast]

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You really want to see my dick in some chick? PM me your phone number and I'll send you sex videos from my trips.

Is that what you meant by steak.

No east coast guy (who has lived on both sides) has come to the rescue saying it is harder out there versus the west side. Everyone who has lived on both sides knows the truth so???? The average California person gets smashed and turns into a pussy, the guys who survive are top tier.

Feel free if you really want to see that shit. I'll wait until some east coast guy comes on to claim that it's harder out there. Again. Crickets.

Now you'll do your usual drama stuff trying to derail and no one is coming to the rescue. The truth is the truth. Is what it is. West Side

(05-15-2013 09:10 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 09:05 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 09:01 AM)soup Wrote:  

So what would you suggest a NYC guy do if he was going to LA?

It's the same usual game just harder, worse logistics more competition, need to be fit.

Basically all the shit on this forum. (Note San Jose is worse than LA)

Finally, go through trip reports on Cali guys they give you more execution data, I got no use for hearing some dude's story of lays. I already believe he got laid because i'm not a hater, what i'm interested in is execution.

If I want to be entertained I'll go to a clown show.

So no links huh? You guys are selling the sizzle not the steak.

[el mechanico]

I've clicked on Westcoasts profile a few times the last few minutes he's scouring old threads looking for lay reports. He may have to call MikeCF to see if he can remember one.

Some threads I DO remember..
Speakeasy gets mad because some German couchsurfer got hit on with him

IKE strikes out across Europe and has to watch his roomates cat.

OG gets pissed that short Mexican dudes out pull him in Mexico

[Aliblahba]

(05-15-2013 05:18 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Thought experiment:

A 30 year old man who has lived in DC all his life goes to Los Angeles for one week, renting an apartment in the most desirable nightlife area.

A 30 year old man who has lived in LA all his life goes to DC for one week, renting an apartment in the most desirable nightlife area.

If each man runs day and night game full time during those seven days...

1. Who would bang the most girls, regardless of quality?
2. Who would bang the most 7s or above?

NYC'ers are tougher and willing to adapt. Both places require different game. Cali guys can't adapt to shit, and the West Coast doesn't impress anyone from NYC.

EVERY guy I know from Cali doesn't do anything but talk about everything should be like Cali.

"Dude, we do it in Cali....."
"Brah, you know in Cali....."
"If you did it like we did it in Cali...."
"It's way cooler in Cali...."
Bro if you're not from Cali brah...."

ect ect. They can't adapt. Seriously, they're like walking cartoon characters.

[sucio44]

Being a New Yorker, there is an automatic "street cred" you get when you tell someone you're from Brooklyn or the Bronx. I see it all the time when I travel around the country. I think people from Boston and Philly may get that as well.

[thegmanifesto]

(05-15-2013 08:30 AM)soup Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:19 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Soup, don't go into defense mode.

I am one of the strongest California critics on the forum.

I am not saying California is better.

I am saying people in the world think California is better.

Big difference.

I have said before and I will say it again, "California" is one of the greatest marketing schemes ever created.

I see what you mean, but as far as game goes, take a guy from CA and bring him to NYC and don't have him mention where he's from. If even isn't name dropping his homeland and his accent doesn't give him away, are you saying that he's going to fare better than a NYC in CA?

Way better.

Better logistics in NYC. Better ratios. More girls. More nighspots. Late last call.

All those things add up to him doing better. Plus NYC girls love guys from California.

The NYC guy will get nothing on the beaches of California. The NYC guy will do real well in SF.

In OC, he will do mediocre to poor.

In San Diego, he will do poor.

In LA, he will do ok because of the diversity.

But the logistics, early last calls, poor ratios etc will murder him.

All in All, the LA guy in NYC will beat the NYC guy in LA 75 out of 100 nights.

Quote:

It's fiction, but what about the Hank Moody factor?

Yeah, it's fiction.

But yeah, this is my point exactly. "Selling the dream of California".

Ie you can be from New york and do well in California too! The reality is much different.

Wasn't Entourage based on the same premise?

Quote:

Whereas, if you grow up in NYC, you have automatic cred with visiting foreigners.

Sure. It's #2.

Quote:

LA guys- when you meet girls from Europe who are visiting, and you tell that you are actually from LA, are they awed?

Yes.

Everyone worldwide is awed by LA.

[Aliblahba]

Hey what's more important; bangs or rep points?

[Beyond Borders]

(05-15-2013 10:09 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Hey what's more important; bangs or rep points?

That's easy. The obvious answer is rep points.

[scotian]

(05-15-2013 10:21 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 10:09 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Hey what's more important; bangs or rep points?

That's easy. The obvious answer is rep points.

I have more rep points than bangs so I will agree with the above.

About the whole Cali vs. East Coast thing, I'd rather grow up in a place where I didn't need super tight game because the girls are down to earth and relatively easy to bang than growing up in a place where I needed to develop advanced game just to get in a girl's pants.

This may be a reason why, in general, your average Canadian guy's game won't compare to many in the USA, because our girls are very sweet and easy to game (exceptions being Tdot and Van). After traveling for the past six months, I honestly miss Canadians girls, I don't think us Canucks have too much to complain about girls wise.

[Tex Pro]

(05-15-2013 10:21 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 10:09 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Hey what's more important; bangs or rep points?

That's easy. The obvious answer is rep points.

We should create our own rep points based e-currency (akin to bitcoin) and a RVF store to buy goods at. The rep points could be traded in for condoms, cigarettes, booze, pocket squares, baking soda, zippo lighters, etc.

If you need more rep points, then you just "buy" them off dudes that have a lot of them or post lots of data sheets to get RVF members to give points.

[speakeasy]

[MikeCF]

(05-15-2013 09:07 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

The West Side members also has the biggest number of forum meltdowns.

Meltdown=Beta
Pitching a forum fit=Mega Beta

Some of the biggest players I know are insufferable prima donnas.

In fact, you have to deal with guys who have been in Cali past, say, 10 years differently than you would a Southern or Midwestern guy.

People aren't per se soft. But people do start acting like, "my way or the highway" more so than guys from other areas.

The whole, "I'm so chill," is marketing hype.

Not sure why that is...

It could be that since a lot of us are immigrants, we came into the city alone, got used to living alone, and so we're much more inclined to go dolo rather than compromise with a huge group.

[MikeCF]

To answer my own question.

Why did Arnold come to California?

Why does everyone in the U.S. and world want to come to California?

People who dream and think big come to California.

So naturally the guys who come to California are more likely than others to be visionaries.

People can shit on Facebook, but it was a revolution. Apple was a revolution. Google was a revolution.

Tesla is in California.

Gangster rap is from California.

Free love, hippies, the Summer of Love...California.

Marijuana usage was normalized in California. Adults here don't hide drug use. I can tell professionals that I rolled and no one bats and eye and most wish they had been there.

So even though California has problems, the kind of people who come to California are those who feel like they don't have enough room for their minds to grow in other areas. People from California want more.

Thus, things that might seem off the wall to the rest of the country (bodybuilding, drug use, game) are par for the course here.

Go to Iowa and say, "I read some article on the Internet about meeting women. Let's try this," and some macho repressed homosexual might not be friends with you.

Say that out here and guys will say, "Cool, man, try it and let me know what you think."

The state of California is ruining everything but the people remain open-minded and visionary. Hence the domination.

[soup]

People are awed buy native NYC because it's number 1. I get this all the time. In fact, this is part of my opening routine.

After I get a girl talking, I accuse them: "so why did YOU come to NYC"

They usually reply: "I live here"

Me: "You don't sound like you are from around here"

Her: "I'm from (xxx-other part of the world)"

Me: "But why did you come here?"

She Usually she doesn't have answer because everybody wants to come here. Or because she's got work here.

pause.

Her: What about you?

Me: I had no choice.

Her: Where are you from?

Me: I'm from the city

Her: OMG a real NYer that so rare blah blah blah..


I've even had travelling girls tell me after a first kiss that they'd accomplished one of their goals for the trip: making out with a guy from NYC

NYC sells a dream as well:

Hey, they never made a song called "LA, LA"

[soup]

(05-15-2013 11:21 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 09:07 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

The West Side members also has the biggest number of forum meltdowns.

Meltdown=Beta
Pitching a forum fit=Mega Beta

It could be that since a lot of us are immigrants, we came into the city alone, got used to living alone, and so we're much more inclined to go dolo rather than compromise with a huge group.

That's what I'm saying- most of you guys who are in California are probably aren't from California.

Also, someone from California told me that it's only people who aren't actually from California who call it "Cali".

[Beyond Borders]

Born in NY and raised in Cali from infancy.

Wrap your mind around that. I'm a fucking enigma.

I battle rap with myself in my sleep.

[eradicator]

(05-15-2013 04:12 AM)loki Wrote:  

perhaps is because weed is legal there, so they are more laid back about life and have less hangups because of this fact.

weed isn't legal here. You are thinking of Colorado and Washington state. You can get a prescription for weed in California.

I don't even know what to say when guys are blaming weather for their lack of game. That makes about as little sense as blaming high amounts of homeless people for their not being able to pull.

[Beyond Borders]

(05-15-2013 11:35 AM)soup Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 11:21 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 09:07 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

The West Side members also has the biggest number of forum meltdowns.

Meltdown=Beta
Pitching a forum fit=Mega Beta

It could be that since a lot of us are immigrants, we came into the city alone, got used to living alone, and so we're much more inclined to go dolo rather than compromise with a huge group.

That's what I'm saying- most of you guys who are in California are probably aren't from California.

Also, someone from California told me that it's only people who aren't actually from California who call it "Cali".

They remind me of those people who act like it's a sin to call San Francisco "Frisco" or "San Fran. Some people just need to get over themselves.

[WestCoast]

Said it earlier will say it again.

If you make it in California you will make it anywhere.

On another note, notice how the Cali repped people (Cali vs, California is a myth btw, what is true is people who say "hella" are from the Bay Area) are not broke either?

You need everything to survive in California, game, decent looks, money.

In NYC don't bother booking a hotel.

Anyone who cares about how they pronounce their city or state is generally just a joke though. Frisco, the city, hella, whatever who gives a shit.

(05-15-2013 11:29 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

To answer my own question.

Why did Arnold come to California?

Why does everyone in the U.S. and world want to come to California?

People who dream and think big come to California.

So naturally the guys who come to California are more likely than others to be visionaries.

People can shit on Facebook, but it was a revolution. Apple was a revolution. Google was a revolution.

Tesla is in California.

Gangster rap is from California.

Free love, hippies, the Summer of Love...California.

Marijuana usage was normalized in California. Adults here don't hide drug use. I can tell professionals that I rolled and no one bats and eye and most wish they had been there.

So even though California has problems, the kind of people who come to California are those who feel like they don't have enough room for their minds to grow in other areas. People from California want more.

Thus, things that might seem off the wall to the rest of the country (bodybuilding, drug use, game) are par for the course here.

Go to Iowa and say, "I read some article on the Internet about meeting women. Let's try this," and some macho repressed homosexual might not be friends with you.

Say that out here and guys will say, "Cool, man, try it and let me know what you think."

The state of California is ruining everything but the people remain open-minded and visionary. Hence the domination.

[MikeCF]

(05-15-2013 11:35 AM)soup Wrote:  

That's what I'm saying- most of you guys who are in California are probably aren't from California.

Also, someone from California told me that it's only people who aren't actually from California who call it "Cali".

Your friend might be lying about being from California, since that's some gramma nazi shit. Is he the guy who says, "You can't write L.A. as LA. LA is Louisiania." Yeah, those periods are so important.

Guess it all depends on what it means to be "from" a place.

I was miserable growing up and thought I had clinical depression.

Moved to SoCal and the "depression" was immediately cured.

Anyhow, two of my good friends both grew up here.

Only difference between natives and immigrants is that natives have better stories about people who are now in Hollywood because they all went to school together. My friend is friends with the guy who knocked up Jessica Alba, for example, and another friend hooked up with some of the Kardashians.

But a lot of people come and go.

To come to Cali and stay you have to find some sort of success, since it's expensive to be here, driving is a pain in the ass, and the women are not easy.

[MikeCF]

(05-15-2013 11:41 AM)master_thespian Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 04:12 AM)loki Wrote:  

perhaps is because weed is legal there, so they are more laid back about life and have less hangups because of this fact.

weed isn't legal here. You are thinking of Colorado and Washington state. You can get a prescription for weed in California.

And how hard is that to do?

What, you can't walk to a "Dr. Green" shop on the Venice Boardwalk with your $200 cash every year?

In SF you won't get popped for simple possession unless you're being an asshole.

In Ventura (why are you there), it's another game. But why are you there?

For all intents and purposes, it's legal. Do you live in Cali?

[Vicious]

I think G put it very well in another thread.

LA is the male fantasy.
NYC is the female fantasy.

[eradicator]

(05-15-2013 11:47 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 11:41 AM)master_thespian Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 04:12 AM)loki Wrote:  

perhaps is because weed is legal there, so they are more laid back about life and have less hangups because of this fact.

weed isn't legal here. You are thinking of Colorado and Washington state. You can get a prescription for weed in California.

And how hard is that to do?

What, you can't walk to a "Dr. Green" shop on the Venice Boardwalk with your $200 cash every year?

In SF you won't get popped for simple possession unless you're being an asshole.

In Ventura (why are you there), it's another game. But why are you there?

For all intents and purposes, it's legal. Do you live in Cali?

I grew up in Berkeley and went to college in Santa Barbara and live in Los Angeles.

It is definitely NOT legal to grow in California. The grow houses are constantly being raided by police and shut down. This is a major mismanagement of the police force but that is really a different discussion entirely.

Again, weed is definitely not as legal and easy as you seem to think.

[MikeCF]

(05-15-2013 11:55 AM)master_thespian Wrote:  

Again, weed is definitely not as legal and easy as you seem to think.

C'mon, son:

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=med..._filters=1

You could walk down to the Venice Boardwalk right now and get a card.

This is a fun thread. Not a political discussion or something serious. Just a light-hearted, "my city" type thing.

Go troll a political thread or something more serious rather than give bad info to guys.

[el mechanico]

I thought this tread was about dominance and all you guys are talking about is shitty girls and bad logistics.

My list:
Roosh 94
Athlone 79
Hencrebilble 57
Parlay 17
MiXX 91
Gmanifesto 90 (he's from the east coast)
MeXx 0
El mech 70
Ali-beta 49
Soup 27
Gmac 31
Fisto 54 (he can tell you where he's from)
Scotian 84
Samseau 76

^^^ That's dominance. You guys wouldn't want to be in the same venue trying to pull.

[WestCoast]

Cool what states? Combine the top two and have at it.

Also G has stated he is from California.

(05-15-2013 12:04 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I thought this tread was about dominance and all you guys are talking about is shitty girls and bad logistics.

My list:
Roosh 94
Athlone 79
Hencrebilble 57
Parlay 17
MiXX 91
Gmanifesto 90 (he's from the east coast)
MeXx 0
El mech 70
Ali-beta 49
Soup 27
Gmac 31
Fisto 54 (he can tell you where he's from)
Scotian 84
Samseau 76

^^^ That's dominance. You guys wouldn't want to be in the same venue trying to pull.