Sometimes I see younger people not even inhaling the cigarette smoke lol. It's usually girls but I've seen guys do it. Alpha for smoking but Beta for not smoking properly ![[Image: monkey.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/new/monkey.gif)
Smoking is back!
Quote: (05-14-2013 07:14 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Quote: (05-14-2013 06:20 PM)polymath Wrote:
Fuck smoking. If you need a cigarette to approach a woman then you need to work on your social skills.
How many years did you smoke and didn't work for you that created such bitterness?
Haven't been to this thread in a while.
I've never smoked a cigarette, and it has always worked for me. Both of my parents were smokers, and both have had cancer. Never will I touch a cigarette.
That's my perspective, and you are not bound to it. For some, maybe good conversation comes in the context of a cigarette. Still, if you depend on a cigarette or lighter as a prop so that you can initiate conversations with people, then IMO you should probably learn to talk to people regardless of what you're carrying.
If it's Saturday night and I can choose to hang out either with a guy who is indifferent to smoking or a guy who says smoking is stupid because it gives you lung cancer, I'm going to pick the first guy.
The second guy probably doesn't raw dog either. We won't have much in common.
The second guy probably doesn't raw dog either. We won't have much in common.
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Smoking is the shit, smoking tobacco may be bad for you but they are plenty of other things to inhale beside tobacco.
I've been inhaling 7-10 bong hits daily for the last 6 months and I swim like a fish
I have better control of my lungs than non smokers because I have learned how to hold hot smoke in my lungs for a long time.
I love smoking, you get to use your lungs for real, not a big fan of tobacco but I'll never turn down a cigarette
I've been inhaling 7-10 bong hits daily for the last 6 months and I swim like a fish
I have better control of my lungs than non smokers because I have learned how to hold hot smoke in my lungs for a long time.
I love smoking, you get to use your lungs for real, not a big fan of tobacco but I'll never turn down a cigarette
boredom is evil
I remember an old cat once told me that he walked around w/ a lighter every day in case a lady asked. He was indifferent to smoking & had success w/ women 'til his 60's, so he always had my respect & many aspects of his life I always commended.
There's been countless occasions before I took the red pill where a chick approached me & asked me for a lighter, but I always came out blue-balled because I didn't have one. So I find lighters an essential item for me for an easy approach/response mechanism, especially if I'm off or can't read someone on cue.
There's been countless occasions before I took the red pill where a chick approached me & asked me for a lighter, but I always came out blue-balled because I didn't have one. So I find lighters an essential item for me for an easy approach/response mechanism, especially if I'm off or can't read someone on cue.
Quote: (07-07-2013 12:12 AM)polymath Wrote:
Quote: (05-14-2013 07:14 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Quote: (05-14-2013 06:20 PM)polymath Wrote:
Fuck smoking. If you need a cigarette to approach a woman then you need to work on your social skills.
How many years did you smoke and didn't work for you that created such bitterness?
Haven't been to this thread in a while.
I've never smoked a cigarette, and it has always worked for me. Both of my parents were smokers, and both have had cancer. Never will I touch a cigarette.
That's my perspective, and you are not bound to it. For some, maybe good conversation comes in the context of a cigarette. Still, if you depend on a cigarette or lighter as a prop so that you can initiate conversations with people, then IMO you should probably learn to talk to people regardless of what you're carrying.
a conversation involves at least two people, one of which you will have zero control over.
The conversation over a cigarette may be for their comfort level, not yours.
Back in the late 19th, early 20th centuries a girl who smoked was almost assumed to be a harlot or slut.
For example, people assumed the worst about Teddy Roosevelt's daughter Alice, because she openly smoked in public. Obviously, later it became the norm to smoke, in the 40's, 50's, and 60's. But today we've retreated back to the norms of that earlier, bygone period.
Smoking is, among other things, a way of connecting with girls. Folks from the Gilded Age actually had the insight that girls more likely to be down to fuck would also be smokers. They had the same belief about girls who drank. And they were right.
For example, people assumed the worst about Teddy Roosevelt's daughter Alice, because she openly smoked in public. Obviously, later it became the norm to smoke, in the 40's, 50's, and 60's. But today we've retreated back to the norms of that earlier, bygone period.
Smoking is, among other things, a way of connecting with girls. Folks from the Gilded Age actually had the insight that girls more likely to be down to fuck would also be smokers. They had the same belief about girls who drank. And they were right.
Roll your own cigarettes. Most visitors I have don't even realize I smoke because the smell is nothing in comparison to Marlboros or other premade cigs. Smoking 10 rolled cigarettes has the same effect as smoking 2 premades; far less tobacco, no chemicals or additives, and generally much smaller. Less stench is most important!
It's also a great talking point while doing approaches. You can elaborate how you picked it up traveling/living in Europe (where its common) then elaborate on travels, etc..
It's also a great talking point while doing approaches. You can elaborate how you picked it up traveling/living in Europe (where its common) then elaborate on travels, etc..
Quote: (07-10-2013 05:40 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:
Smoking 10 rolled cigarettes has the same effect as smoking 2 premades; far less tobacco, no chemicals or additives, and generally much smaller. Less stench is most important!
How accurate is this? I was under the impression rollups are stronger than each individual prerolled cigarette.
I've been smoking for 6 years now. Started on Davidoff Gold for 6 months, Camel Blue for 3 months and then switched to Marlboro Lights for 3 years. Since then I've been rolling my cigarettes, like a boss.
"Dice" is still my favorite smoker..
Wait for the end, when he makes fun of San Francisco!!
When I start smoking, it will be like this..
Remember when he used to wrap his arm around his head to take a drag?
Wait for the end, when he makes fun of San Francisco!!
When I start smoking, it will be like this..
Remember when he used to wrap his arm around his head to take a drag?
Quote: (07-07-2013 12:12 AM)polymath Wrote:
Quote: (05-14-2013 07:14 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Quote: (05-14-2013 06:20 PM)polymath Wrote:
Fuck smoking. If you need a cigarette to approach a woman then you need to work on your social skills.
How many years did you smoke and didn't work for you that created such bitterness?
Haven't been to this thread in a while.
I've never smoked a cigarette
Probably doesn't put you in a position of expertise on the subject then, right?
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In other news, a guy says "Fuck Game, it doesn't work".
Yet he has never gone up to talk to a Girl.
Quote: (07-10-2013 05:40 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:
Roll your own cigarettes. Most visitors I have don't even realize I smoke because the smell is nothing in comparison to Marlboros or other premade cigs. Smoking 10 rolled cigarettes has the same effect as smoking 2 premades; far less tobacco, no chemicals or additives, and generally much smaller. Less stench is most important!
It's also a great talking point while doing approaches. You can elaborate how you picked it up traveling/living in Europe (where its common) then elaborate on travels, etc..
They also have no filter
If you want to still open chicks with cigarettes but want to mitigate the health effects, carry a cigarette tin and keep both regular and herbal cigs (ecstasy, honeyrose, etc) in it so you can bum people smokes.
I don't do this because I enjoy the taste of tobacco, but it's a thought.
Also, zippos are mandatory. Bics are beta, even for smoking weed.
I don't do this because I enjoy the taste of tobacco, but it's a thought.
Also, zippos are mandatory. Bics are beta, even for smoking weed.
Quote: (07-12-2013 02:12 AM)Architekt Wrote:
Quote: (07-11-2013 08:45 PM)DLZ Wrote:
Also, zippos are mandatory. Bics are beta, even for smoking weed.
Zippos are fucking useless for a pipe/bong and taste disgusting. Just sayin'
I'd heard that too. I always carry a zippo (then again, I don't smoke a lot of dagga).
I like the newer e-cigs. Sure it looks like you are sucking on a dildo, but it is smoother and 'might' have less health effects. Cheaper too, when you used to smoke a pack a day like I did.
I smoked from about 14 years old to my early 20s.
Ended up quitting cold turkey because I was starting to get headaches any time I took a drag.
On Fitness:
I was in great shape when I smoked, running 6 minute miles and pumping out pushups like I got paid.
I am still in good shape now that I don't smoke. I can't run anywhere near as fast, but thats because I stopped running and put on around 20 lbs of muscle.
You might see an immediate variation in your fitness abilities when you start/stop smoking. Your body has to get used to the change, and once it does you will go back to your previous levels. The people who claim they can't run and are short winded because they are smoke are just using cigarettes to rationalize their shitty fitness levels most likely due to a sedentary lifestyle.
On Health:
The only thing I noticed health wise during my smoking years was having shit in my throat more often. Waking up and spitting out a loogie or two to clear the throat was not rare.
Its possible I had more respiratory track infections although I don't remember any recurring problems. It should be noted I have had bronchitis once in my life, which was about 4 years AFTER I quit smoking.
Medical evidence conclusively finds that smoking increases your risk of several different cancers. I can't argue with all the data. But I do believe it can be mitigated (not solved) by staying in good shape and eating healthy.
On Game:
I started smoking at 14. I was labeled the "bad boy" type and never had any problems with females my age. I started getting consistent sex a year later. Yes I do believe it was due to my reputation. Smoking was a part of that. But your no longer instantly labeled the "bad boy" once you turn 18 and all the other chodes that were too scared to get a ticket start lighting up.
So from 14-17 I killed it with the ladies. Smoking helped but was not the end all.
From 18-early 20s I continued smoking. I got into a serious relationship so my gaming mostly stopped. However I did go out with friends a lot and I always had fun trying to pick up girls for them. Still getting the thrill of the chase and then passing the bang off to them. I was the robbin hood of pussy.
Smoking has two major game benefits.
1.Easiest non direct opener that flies right under all but the highest of bitch shields is the one we all know - "Got a light?" Smoking makes it easy to start a conversation with otherwise closed off females. Period. No argument allowed.
2.Smoking allows the woman to feel comfortable during the crucial initial 5 minutes of the approach. The cigarette is her crutch and everything feels normal to her. The chances of scaring the cat of small here.
My current experience
They say you cant have your cake and eat it too. With smoking you can.
If your worried about cost and health issues: smoke only when you go out to the game.
A pack of smokes will cost 5-6 bucks, about the cost of one drink.
Health issues are normally reserved for full time smokers.
A pack of smokes and a zippo brings some good firepower to the fight. Throw in a nice suit, some disposable income, and killer logistics and youll be wielding the machine gun while everyone is trying to reload their muskets.
boom.
Ended up quitting cold turkey because I was starting to get headaches any time I took a drag.
On Fitness:
I was in great shape when I smoked, running 6 minute miles and pumping out pushups like I got paid.
I am still in good shape now that I don't smoke. I can't run anywhere near as fast, but thats because I stopped running and put on around 20 lbs of muscle.
You might see an immediate variation in your fitness abilities when you start/stop smoking. Your body has to get used to the change, and once it does you will go back to your previous levels. The people who claim they can't run and are short winded because they are smoke are just using cigarettes to rationalize their shitty fitness levels most likely due to a sedentary lifestyle.
On Health:
The only thing I noticed health wise during my smoking years was having shit in my throat more often. Waking up and spitting out a loogie or two to clear the throat was not rare.
Its possible I had more respiratory track infections although I don't remember any recurring problems. It should be noted I have had bronchitis once in my life, which was about 4 years AFTER I quit smoking.
Medical evidence conclusively finds that smoking increases your risk of several different cancers. I can't argue with all the data. But I do believe it can be mitigated (not solved) by staying in good shape and eating healthy.
On Game:
I started smoking at 14. I was labeled the "bad boy" type and never had any problems with females my age. I started getting consistent sex a year later. Yes I do believe it was due to my reputation. Smoking was a part of that. But your no longer instantly labeled the "bad boy" once you turn 18 and all the other chodes that were too scared to get a ticket start lighting up.
So from 14-17 I killed it with the ladies. Smoking helped but was not the end all.
From 18-early 20s I continued smoking. I got into a serious relationship so my gaming mostly stopped. However I did go out with friends a lot and I always had fun trying to pick up girls for them. Still getting the thrill of the chase and then passing the bang off to them. I was the robbin hood of pussy.
Smoking has two major game benefits.
1.Easiest non direct opener that flies right under all but the highest of bitch shields is the one we all know - "Got a light?" Smoking makes it easy to start a conversation with otherwise closed off females. Period. No argument allowed.
2.Smoking allows the woman to feel comfortable during the crucial initial 5 minutes of the approach. The cigarette is her crutch and everything feels normal to her. The chances of scaring the cat of small here.
My current experience
They say you cant have your cake and eat it too. With smoking you can.
If your worried about cost and health issues: smoke only when you go out to the game.
A pack of smokes will cost 5-6 bucks, about the cost of one drink.
Health issues are normally reserved for full time smokers.
A pack of smokes and a zippo brings some good firepower to the fight. Throw in a nice suit, some disposable income, and killer logistics and youll be wielding the machine gun while everyone is trying to reload their muskets.
boom.
God'll prolly have me on some real strict shit
No sleeping all day, no getting my dick licked
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