[Matt3B]

[Sailor]

If a fat girl posts a nude picture of her body with a signature saying Roosh does it mean she can stay and give us lectures about body shaming and fat acceptance?

[Quintus Flaminius]

Roosh, how about changing the rules a bit?
Can they stay if they upload a killer anti feminist video?

[BCZalgyris]

(05-01-2013 09:24 PM)Quintus Flaminius Wrote:  

Roosh, how about changing the rules a bit?
Can they stay if they upload a killer anti feminist video?

Nope, the rules work as they are. No women.

[Matt Forney]

[Hannibal]

It's probably better for forum longevity we don't let them in.

This forum is the best male only sphere many of us have, myself included. There is quite a bit of bitching about the current times we live in, but there's also mounds of topics in the "getting shit done" department.

The majority of the male only spheres I have in real life are full of clueless betas and idealistic morons, outside of a handful of friends. None of them know much of anything, and the naturals among them couldn't tell you what they do know. Since we're all in our early 20's, none of them know anything about making money, dressing well, or working out, which are all things I pay a lot of attention to on this forum because there's so many people out there that know more than I do. This forum is one of the best places to go for introductions to things (starting strength, oil rig jobs, datasheets, and finance software are all things that come to mind) where I can follow up with further research on other corners of the internet.

I went on the mystery forums on and off the last five years or so and I can tell you that having females there did nothing but degrade the forum and attract a lot of white-knight asshattery.

Having women that echo our views doesn't help us either; what they can tell us, we already know and we don't need to hear it again. Some of them are cool, some of them are fun to talk to, but almost none of them knows a fucking thing of value when it comes to being a man. Why should they?

We already have like, what, 400 guests constantly staring at everything we write. They don't need an invitation in. They get all the vicarious entertainment they want.

[Merenguero]

(05-01-2013 09:45 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  

It's probably better for forum longevity in the long run if we don't let them in.

We have more than enough drama as it is. If we let women in, it may get to the point where members try to hunt each down in person.

[ZeroHedge]

(05-01-2013 09:45 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  

I went on the mystery forums on and off the last five years or so and I can tell you that having females there did nothing but degrade the forum and attract a lot of white-knight asshattery.

No reason to have women on this forum. There's 10,000 co-ed forums on the internet, it's ok to have one that's for men only.

[Matt Forney]

The day Roosh and company start letting women post here (without having to show us their tits) is the day this forum will die.

Every male space that allows women in inevitably devolves into chaos because men will start white-knighting her trying to get into her skirt. This sets them up to fight the ones who aren't kissing her ass. Not even accounting for the stratospheric ego boost that this will give her, she will demand that the forum's rules be rewritten to assuage her ego and avoid hurting her feeeeeelings. This creates a vicious cycle where men leave the space because it isn't serving their interests, whereby more women come in and further warp the forum to their own ends. You can see this dynamic in the military, in politics and any other male-dominated sphere that allows women to come in and participate.

I'm friends with Rob Fedders, one of the guys who created MGTOW. He did so in response to the repeated ineffectiveness of the men's rights movement, and a big part of the reason why MRAs never got anywhere was because they kept bringing in women, whose presence subsequently turned MRA forums into a maelstrom of white knighting and backstabbing. Hell, A Voice for Men is collapsing right now because Paul Elam handed over the Senior Editor position to Kristina Hansen, a PC scold who is working overtime to drive men away from the site.

This is a forum for masculine self-improvement. The only conceivable reason to let women in here is so they can degrade themselves for our amusement by showing us their naked bodies. That's it. We don't need to hear their opinions: what, like we don't get enough women running their mouths everywhere else? We don't need them so we can get laid: that kind of pussyassness runs completely counter to why RVF exists.

Don't make the same mistakes that our ideological forerunners did. Keep the girls away from RVF.

[Jaylow]

(05-01-2013 10:35 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  

This creates a vicious cycle where men leave the space because it isn't serving their interests, whereby more women come in and further warp the forum to their own ends. You can see this dynamic in the military, in politics and any other male-dominated sphere that allows women to come in and participate.

Really can't see woman gaining any control here. More likely they will get put in their place to the point where they get frustrated and leave or they get banned because they won't have any kind of argument for the alphas throwing truth at their illogical asses.
Could use females here as beta bait and then ban those dweebs too. What kind of alpha goes after a girl on the internet that lives nowhere near him? Why would a guy go after a girl on here when there is POF/OKC?

[Samseau]

(05-01-2013 10:42 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 10:35 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  

This creates a vicious cycle where men leave the space because it isn't serving their interests, whereby more women come in and further warp the forum to their own ends. You can see this dynamic in the military, in politics and any other male-dominated sphere that allows women to come in and participate.

Really can't see woman gaining any control here. More likely they will get put in their place to the point where they get frustrated and leave or they get banned because they won't have any kind of argument for the alphas throwing truth at their illogical asses.
Could use females here as beta bait and then ban those dweebs too. What kind of alpha goes after a girl on the internet that lives nowhere near him? Why would a guy go after a girl on here when there is POF/OKC?

It's just a waste of time a huge distraction if men are talking to women here. What do men gain from talking to women over the internet? It's not like they'll bang her. She'll give no useful advice. She'll never agree with most of what we say.

[Samseau]

(05-01-2013 07:51 PM)agirl89 Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 07:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Hold on guys, before we ban her.

Question:

What part of the USA are you from?

How old are you?

I'm 24 and I've actually lived in several different regions. Why would I get banned?

The fact that she couldn't give me an accurate answer to the question, "Where are you from" indicates this "female" was most likely a hoax.

The troll knew my question of "Where are you from" was a loaded question. Had she told me she was from a coastal city, then there's no way anyone would believe her about being a good girlfriend.

The only way she'd have passed the smell test if she said a southern or midwestern town. The troll was unsure what the correct answer was, and so instead dodged it by saying "I've lived in several different regions."

Guess what pal, I've asked the question "Where are you from?" to almost 4000 women in my life.

Not one failed to give a straight answer. They either respond with their ethnicity, or where they grew up. This troll couldn't even fake being a female.

[Tuthmosis]

(05-01-2013 09:45 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  

It's probably better for forum longevity we don't let them in.

(05-01-2013 10:25 PM)ZeroHedge Wrote:  

No reason to have women on this forum.

(05-01-2013 10:35 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  

The day Roosh and company start letting women post here (without having to show us their tits) is the day this forum will die.

Of all the things that could bring the mighty RVF down, the last one that should concern you is women taking over:

(07-23-2012 08:01 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

I just wanted to state that as long as I live, this forum will never be overrun by women or feminine thinking. I will not allow women to post and I will not bend over to anyone who tries to attack us (Couchsurfing hags: put these nuts in your mouth).

While we have to align our posts with US law (can't push illegal activity, no posting of jailbait, etc.), I will do all I can to maintain this forum as an oasis of masculinity in a pussified world. If I ever slip on this promise, I expect you to call me out on it.

Carry on...

(Source)

And even if Roosh were to die in some horrific and tragic accident, I challenge you to go down this list and find one guy who wants to introduce women here. Chances are, his name looks like this.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/memberlist.php

[Basil Ransom]

It's not like we make a secret on our ban of women from the forum. If he/she really wanted to talk to us, she would pose as a man. She didn't, because she wanted the extra attention that appearing to be a woman would garner.

(05-01-2013 10:35 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  

The day Roosh and company start letting women post here (without having to show us their tits) is the day this forum will die.

Every male space that allows women in inevitably devolves into chaos because men will start white-knighting her trying to get into her skirt. This sets them up to fight the ones who aren't kissing her ass. Not even accounting for the stratospheric ego boost that this will give her, she will demand that the forum's rules be rewritten to assuage her ego and avoid hurting her feeeeeelings. This creates a vicious cycle where men leave the space because it isn't serving their interests, whereby more women come in and further warp the forum to their own ends. You can see this dynamic in the military, in politics and any other male-dominated sphere that allows women to come in and participate.

Great post.

[Samseau]

(05-01-2013 10:35 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  

Hell, A Voice for Men is collapsing right now because Paul Elam handed over the Senior Editor position to Kristina Hansen, a PC scold who is working overtime to drive men away from the site.

Shocking. Always though Paul Elam was a bitch and that confirms it 100%.

[Samseau]

(05-01-2013 11:08 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 10:35 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  

Hell, A Voice for Men is collapsing right now because Paul Elam handed over the Senior Editor position to Kristina Hansen, a PC scold who is working overtime to drive men away from the site.

Shocking. Always though Paul Elam was a bitch and that confirms it 100%.

Wow, this is her:

https://secure.gravatar.com/thewoolybumblebee#photo-1

[Atilla]

1. Any time a woman boasts she’s never had a one-night stand, you can probably assume she’s had lots of casual sex, only not with strangers, but “male friends.” Instead of being a bar rat, she could be a house-party rat. No difference as far as I’m concerned.

She also never mentioned how many sexual partners she’s had and may be trying to hide it. It will have a direct impact on her ability to love a man long-term and remain faithful.


http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2010...-risk.html

2. It’s normal for women to put on their goody little two-shoes acts when they’re being called out. I’m not saying this girl’s a liar, but it takes more than a few internet posts to determine whether a girl is really decent, especially when she admit she finds nothing wrong with American women.

Besides, while young American women can be terrible, the worst of the masculine, short-haired, fat, sex-withholding American woman typically comes AFTER marriage.

This girl’s self-esteem is low now, but she'll probably get real cocky after her man signs a contract pledging half his assets over she ever gets bored with the same cock. Every woman thinks she's different.

3. No one here ever said all American women are bad, but most are, and all it takes is most.

The biggest ratio problem in America isn’t a male-female ratio, it’s a repulsive bitch to good-girl ratio.

In Europe, to a much larger extent than in the US, you’ll find that even when a woman isn't so pretty, she’ll stay thin, dress well, act feminine and sweet, and treat men with respect. There are far fewer girls who slut it up, get tattoos, curse, act tough, act obnoxious, and binge drink. As a result, Europe has very few women men might see as “ugly,” and this evens out dating between men and women. In America, very few women are attractive, even the young ones!

“10s” in America, who are given extraordinary power to act as they please, wouldn’t even stand out in many of the popular European countries discussed on this forum. The experience of going overseas and being surrounded by beautiful women who are humble and sweet is very liberating for American men. It means we don’t have to choose between staying single for long periods of time and settling for a girl who self-centered, tattooed, overweight, high-maintenance, has male friends, can’t be without her fucking iPhone, attention-whores on Facebook, serial dates, has a long record of dating thugs, leans far more toward hypergamy than monogamy, and so on.

By the way, your boyfriend hasn’t experienced what we have. Foreign women in the US are generally Americanized, overweight, ugly, trashy, and bitchy.

It’s not hype. I’ve been overseas many times and I’ll never forget that feeling of depression, just as n0000 described, after constantly getting checked out and eyefucked by hot girls within a few weeks abroad like I’m some kind of rock star, all the while knowing my social life would return to the gutter when I’m made to feel like an ugly loser by the garbage that is the American woman.

[Merenguero]

I call that kind of troll a "transvestite troll." A guy purports to be a woman, yet any guy with a B.A.C. under .30 should easily be able to tell the difference.

[kbell]

Notice how her email is A voice for Boys? Not men? Its like she doesn't care about what she represents just from that.

Also bad skin and looks like a nerd attention whore.

[Power_Ranger]

Letting women in here?

Thats like changing the mens toilets into uni-sex toilets , things change regardless. Was a shock in France when I first saw that sight!

[Emancipator]

(05-01-2013 10:35 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  

The day Roosh and company start letting women post here (without having to show us their tits) is the day this forum will die.

Every male space that allows women in inevitably devolves into chaos because men will start white-knighting her trying to get into her skirt. This sets them up to fight the ones who aren't kissing her ass. Not even accounting for the stratospheric ego boost that this will give her, she will demand that the forum's rules be rewritten to assuage her ego and avoid hurting her feeeeeelings. This creates a vicious cycle where men leave the space because it isn't serving their interests, whereby more women come in and further warp the forum to their own ends. You can see this dynamic in the military, in politics and any other male-dominated sphere that allows women to come in and participate.

I'm friends with Rob Fedders, one of the guys who created MGTOW. He did so in response to the repeated ineffectiveness of the men's rights movement, and a big part of the reason why MRAs never got anywhere was because they kept bringing in women, whose presence subsequently turned MRA forums into a maelstrom of white knighting and backstabbing. Hell, A Voice for Men is collapsing right now because Paul Elam handed over the Senior Editor position to Kristina Hansen, a PC scold who is working overtime to drive men away from the site.

This is a forum for masculine self-improvement. The only conceivable reason to let women in here is so they can degrade themselves for our amusement by showing us their naked bodies. That's it. We don't need to hear their opinions: what, like we don't get enough women running their mouths everywhere else? We don't need them so we can get laid: that kind of pussyassness runs completely counter to why RVF exists.

Don't make the same mistakes that our ideological forerunners did. Keep the girls away from RVF.

Look at recent trends in the Video Game industry and Tech industry, the pivot towards trying to include more females have resulted in absurd cases and publicity for trivial things like "feelings".

I stopped playing video games, but I still frequent gaming media news sites, and every week you have a femcunt journalist undergrad posting about the "rapejokes", "descrimination" she faces, especially when playing online.

News hint, that's just how people talk online "I fucked your mother", don't get so upset about it and go calling the WHAAAMbulance.

And then you have people like Anita Sarfemcuntsien and Adria Dicks.

[LibertarianBootyHunter]

I doubt a pretty girl would be posting on this forum to ask for advise on how to please her boyfriend. This is most likely IRT or some other neck-beard omega male troll who's bored out of his mind looking for attention.

Either that or a fat chick ... don't care if she has a good personality or respects and wants to please her man. Good riddance !

[Roosh]

Even if she uploaded a nude photo I would have banned her anyway.

[STLMO]

I'm new here, but was that some white-knighting going on in this thread? You can't let Peg Bundy into nomaam

[Jbk]

I like American/western girls far more than EEs, Asians etc.

Better educated, hold higher standards, more independent.

The fat epidemic is a major problem though an there are millions of would-be attractive girls in the Western Hemisphere that are just too podgy!!