[Screwston]

(05-02-2013 01:29 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 10:55 PM)houston Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 12:22 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

I was in Dublin when Sandy Hook broke, and I can't tell you how many people brought it up and were appalled that America hasn't banned guns. One waiter said to our party at a restaurant, "Something will be done now, won't it?" My reply as I signed the check -- "Not a chance in hell."

What's up with other countries being obsessed about our gun policies?

Tell me about it haha. Everytime I go over to another country the first thing they ask me is if im for gun control. Almost everybody when they find out im from the US they tell me their opinion on the issue and almost always tell me they are against the way we handle the gun situation. I dont get it either.

[Aliblahba]

(05-01-2013 10:55 PM)houston Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 12:22 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

I was in Dublin when Sandy Hook broke, and I can't tell you how many people brought it up and were appalled that America hasn't banned guns. One waiter said to our party at a restaurant, "Something will be done now, won't it?" My reply as I signed the check -- "Not a chance in hell."

What's up with other countries being obsessed about our gun policies?

It's because Europe is whipped and boring. They complain about American t.v. and gun rights, but they eat that shit up, or it wouldn't be broadcast over there. The only news they have to report is sit peeing legislation. If it wasn't for Family Guy and Bush, Eurositpeons would be hanging themselves from boredom.

[azulsombra]

The only american travel hate i have ever experienced was from other anglos(brits and aussies) and even this was a small minority. Ive never experienced antiamericanism from other europeans while traveling.

[Hannibal]

(05-02-2013 03:07 AM)void Wrote:  

Because every damn gun massaker/killing spree in america floods our news channels for almost a complete day. We get almost the same sensationalist nesws coverage of them.

Then direct the hate to the media in your own country, because for whatever reason, American news still sells in Europe.

Which reminds me, I actually learned about the Sandy Hook shooting from a local German newspaper in a restaurant in the middle of fucking Stuttgart.

[Power_Ranger]

Ok I think there needs to be a bit more balancing in this thread before it blows up.

Without the USA, I seriously doubt the western nations would exist as they stand now. However from a point of view, without good ole' England, you would be French and/or Spanish. You wouldn't exist.

Thats fact, nothing wrong here.

When WW2 ceased and the Cold War started to cook, western nations had a lot of their young people falling in love with the American Dream ™

What did America have?

- Nice kitchens
- Nice homes
- Big cities
- Big fridges
- Suzy homemaker
- Vast fields, forests and lakes
- Hollywood
- Good looking guys who could charm the knickers off a Euro/English girl
- Indoor toilets

Your country was idolised because it was progressive and hated the likes of Hitler and Russian communism. That was great for when you were young back then. You had set us free from Hitler and made sure the Russians never came closer.

Then the nuclear problem began, Vietnam, Korea and now the problems in the Middle East since the 80s which blew up spectacularly in the 90s due to a transgression.

It really went down badly when the foreign policies enacted in your country started to eaves-drop onto the rest of the world and has created an atmosphere of fear and control. Something you could liken to what terrorists wanted.

Fast food culture is from America, shallow celebritydom is from America. Instant fame etc you get it.

You blame us for eating it up and yet it has caused a severe decay in females and to a large extent, males in the USA and Canada. We dont want that part of America.

Good god, I was in a flat of 4 women last year at University. They loved shows that portrayed moronic celebrities as the best thing since sliced bread. Not all of it was American but the shows were carbon copies of it all.

America has a lot of benefits but it also has a lot of problems it exports to other nations. English women lap that sort of thing up.

[Spike]

(05-02-2013 12:44 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 03:07 AM)void Wrote:  

Because every damn gun massaker/killing spree in america floods our news channels for almost a complete day. We get almost the same sensationalist nesws coverage of them.

Then direct the hate to the media in your own country, because for whatever reason, American news still sells in Europe.

Which reminds me, I actually learned about the Sandy Hook shooting from a local German newspaper in a restaurant in the middle of fucking Stuttgart.

Sex and blood sells newspapers. It's a bit arrogant to think that the European media only writes about the USA. Like there aren't any other countries in the world. If something bloody happens in another country it would get attention too.
I can only speak for the Dutch media of course. Yesterday the media was going on about Bangladesh and their collapsed clothes factory (300+ dead) and today that's old news and the media will find something else to write about. It's just a business like everything else.

[Spike]

(05-02-2013 02:06 PM)Power_Ranger Wrote:  

Ok I think there needs to be a bit more balancing in this thread before it blows up.

Without the USA, I seriously doubt the western nations would exist as they stand now. However from a point of view, without good ole' England, you would be French and/or Spanish. You wouldn't exist.

Thats fact, nothing wrong here.

When WW2 ceased and the Cold War started to cook, western nations had a lot of their young people falling in love with the American Dream ™

What did America have?

- Nice kitchens
- Nice homes
- Big cities
- Big fridges
- Suzy homemaker
- Vast fields, forests and lakes
- Hollywood
- Good looking guys who could charm the knickers off a Euro/English girl
- Indoor toilets

Your country was idolised because it was progressive and hated the likes of Hitler and Russian communism. That was great for when you were young back then. You had set us free from Hitler and made sure the Russians never came closer.

There's a war theory thread here: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-23349.html

I think you have your thoughts/facts mixed up. Anyway it gave me a good ole laugh.

I think you mean that without western nations there wouldn't be an USA to start with. Unless you count the United states of Indians with a feather on their heads.

Without good ole England I wouldn't be Spanish or French at all. I would still be Dutch. Read the history books. Spain was at war with Holland for 80 years and still couldn't win.

What did America have?

- Nice kitchens - Yes, we never had nice kitchens in Europe or the worlds best restaurants.
- Nice homes - We didn't have those either. We lived in houses mad of clay and dung.
- Big cities - Rome, Paris, Prague, London, Madrid, Berlin are all small villages with just a bit of corny architecture.
- Big fridges - Nope, we never heard of fridges before. We liked eating rotting food.
- Suzy homemaker - a what?
- Vast fields, forests and lakes - Seriously ??? ever heard of countries like Switzerland, Germany and Norway?
- Hollywood - Ok, I give you that one.
- Good looking guys who could charm the knickers off a Euro/English girl - Thats why the French and Italians totally don't have a reputation as romantic lovers in just about any media outlet.

- Indoor toilets - We all shat outside in the field until the 1950's. Some countries until well in the 1990's. It was a shitty place to be since we didn't have cars either only horses who also shat on our dirt roads. I remember we finally got shoes from America so that we didn't have to step in shit with our bare feet anymore. Oh the glorious celebrations we had.

[Emancipator]

We are getting highly hypothetical here now.

Without XXX, YYY would be ZZZ.

[Beyond Borders]

(05-01-2013 01:51 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 03:58 AM)houston Wrote:  

Americans saying they're Canadian while traveling
http://artofbackpacking.com/should-ameri...ng-abroad/
http://www.ytravelblog.com/why-are-ameri...canadians/

Wtf? What kind of pussy does that haha.

The left wing tree hugging kind. I met a few of those "Americans"

Another kind and maybe even worse are the instant apologizers. They start apologizing for America as soon as they said they were Americans.

(05-01-2013 10:49 PM)houston Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 01:51 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 03:58 AM)houston Wrote:  

Americans saying they're Canadian while traveling
http://artofbackpacking.com/should-ameri...ng-abroad/
http://www.ytravelblog.com/why-are-ameri...canadians/

Wtf? What kind of pussy does that haha.

The left wing tree hugging kind. I met a few of those "Americans"

Another kind and maybe even worse are the instant apologizers. They start apologizing for America as soon as they said they were Americans.

One word - Cowards. I hate A LOT of things about America but I'm not fixing to act like I'm from somewhere else or apologize for whatever stupid grudge they hold. Got any stories about those people that you can go into detail a little more about Neil?

Every American woman I've traveled abroad with (3 now) has done this - immediately apologized with a "joking" laugh for being American when we met someone from Europe - and it never fails to annoy the fuck out of me. My beef with American politics and certain aspects of the American way of life was probably bigger than theirs, but I'm not about to apologize for where I was born, and any (usually) European that's going to judge me before a word comes out of mouth is just as ignorant as the Americans he claims to resent.

No time for people who are such hypocrites, and I'm certainly not going to apologize for speaking.

I was on a bus full of people from all over the world the other day though, and the Thais thought it was a good idea to play "Zero Dark Thirty" for us as entertainment. Now, that was awkward. Fortunately people just kept asking them to change it rather than get political about it.

As for people who sew Canada flags on their bags...

[Akula]

(04-29-2013 08:48 PM)Branimir Wrote:  

I'd say for most europeans it's love and hate on a equal level.

No one can ever take away the good and great the US has done, on cultural and scientific levels.
But the same goes for the bad things.

I mean let's just be honest, the american foreign policy is just unbelievably horrendous and and anything of "cultural" value being spread through your media invading other countries the last 20 years is just downright poisonous to everything of good traditional value, I'm talking about things like rampant feminism & lil'wayne .

I don't know what has happened and where it all has began ,but the US policy, culture and economy kind of evolved into some sort of cancer eating itself and at the same time infecting others.

What does it matter if they helped to take down a dictatorship 70 years ago, but abondoning all for what the US stands and are about to become one themselves? And probably already are.

The constant reminder about saving Europe is also getting a bit odd.

How about asking the Iraqis or Vietnamese if their asses were saved.

Europe and Canada outsourced their defense to the US long ago and as a result the US has this massive military beast that keeps feeding itself and costing the US taxpayers an incredible amount of money. I don't necessarily agree with most of our stupid foreign exploits in the name of 'freedom' but it's ridiculous that Europe lived high on the hog for decades and got itself back up on it's feet in a large part bc of the military buildup and protection America provided. I'm sure the 'we saved your ass' gets old but it's fairly true, and the Marshall Plan also was a big aid as well. The PC, pacifist multicultural model Europe has adopted is an utter failure, and all the benefits these socialist 'democracies' have awarded themselves are not sustaianable. Growth is no longer there, and the UK and France can only attract so much corrupt wealth to their capitals to prop up the tax base and real estate markets.

The reality is that if you don't have citizens who are willing to work fairly hard and contribute to society for a good period of their lives then eventually no matter how many poor illegals you bring in you can't find enough taxpayers to support the bloated system. Right now it only seems like Germany, Finland, Holland and maybe a couple other European countries have the wherewithal to keep their economies going...the PIIGS and France are pretty much f*cked.

In any case, you won't have to worry about it much longer - the US is burned out, can't afford these costly wars anymore and will continue to gradually retreat from Europe at least I think. You guys will soon be on your own re defense spending I think, and with all sorts of hotspots developing around the Mediterranean and Middle East it will be interesting to see what happens.

[Aliblahba]

(05-23-2013 01:31 PM)Akula Wrote:  

. You guys will soon be on your own re defense spending I think, and with all sorts of hotspots developing around the Mediterranean and Middle East it will be interesting to see what happens.

It'll look alot like this:

   



While America sits back like this:

[Prosal]

(05-23-2013 01:31 PM)Akula Wrote:  

In any case, you won't have to worry about it much longer - the US is burned out, can't afford these costly wars anymore and will continue to gradually retreat from Europe at least I think. You guys will soon be on your own re defense spending I think, and with all sorts of hotspots developing around the Mediterranean and Middle East it will be interesting to see what happens.

As I just said in another thread, we did pretty good in Mali. It was a real success. We have not only cleaned the whole north of Mali and partly chucked the Ansar Din and Aqim (Al-Qaïda in islamic Maghreb) jihadists - 4000 to 5000 well-armed and war-experienced jihadists - out of the country, but destroyed all their logistic to avoid any further offensive. I would even say that we (the french army) have done much better than the yanks have ever done in their recent wars.

About "interesting to see what happens", you should remember that what is a threat for Europe is also a threat for the USA - see the 37 deads (incl. three americans) of January's hostage taking in Algeria. The destabilisation of West Africa would not do any good nor to EU, nor to America. You certainly don't want to see a west Africa country runned by the jihadists and turning into an haven for terror organizations.
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[MidWest]

American Texans is France

[Heath Brinson]

I agree with your terms. Thanks for your post.

[scandibro]

Quite a few of the americans I've met in Europe and Asia get dissapointed when they discover that I, as a scandinavian, have right wing viewpoints and shatter their bubble of illusions about how peaceful and prosperous Scandinavia is and how high taxes is oh so great (it's not, it is horrible). I find that rather funny.

Something I've noticed though is that I can almost always spot an American abroad, while it is far more difficult to pinpoint a french from a belgian or dutch or italian.

Americans talk LOUD in public, which is considered bad taste in most of Europe because of confined personal space. Americans also often seem to use some unflattering small talk in that typical drooly american accent 'oooohhhhh reeeaaaallllyyyyy'.

I don't think there is much American hate at all, overall I can't think of a nationality that is better to have when travelling, however, I do think a lot of people, particularly europeans have a tendency to see Americans as somewhat superficial and oafish. Friendly and easy to get to know, but lacking depth and subtance. That is the primary stereotype I've found in Europe.

I quite like Americans in general though and also American girls. I've been with two and both were quite feminine and sexy, very easy to talk to and very easy to score. Of course, I assume I was dealing with well off eastern girls with a fetish for european men, so it probably wasn't represenative.

[Belize King]

I am Black before I am American. But travelling abroad because I am dark people automatically assume I am African. Africans aboard seems to get a bad rap. Once I open my mouth, interest rises and legs open.

Aussies seem to be interested in Americans and Obama. Europeans dont really care about us. South Americans seemed interested.

Personally I believe an American is White or Military. If you arent White or a Soldier then you dont seem to get shit. Too easy.

[cardguy]

Britains enjoy moaning (sadly).

So ignore any hate you get when over here. If they weren't complaining about you they would just find something else to complain about.

Don't take it personally.

Personally I enjoy chatting to Yanks. But the liberal ones can be a bit bland.

[InternationPlayboy]

People can hate on Americans all they want, but remember Europeans, we are your army. If shit ever hits the fan in Europe, who are you guys running to? Europes army is weak and the rely on us for their security.

[scandibro]

(11-11-2013 03:46 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

People can hate on Americans all they want, but remember Europeans, we are your army. If shit ever hits the fan in Europe, who are you guys running to? Europes army is weak and the rely on us for their security.

Please, you give the Germans free reign and in 5 years they have an army ready to take on the world. German engineering, dicipline and raw production is the envy of the world. ;-)

[InternationPlayboy]

Ha! You do realize America spends more money one their military than the next 10 + countries combined. Germany doesn't have shit in terms of an army.

[scandibro]

(11-11-2013 04:38 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

Ha! You do realize America spends more money one their military than the next 10 + countries combined. Germany doesn't have shit in terms of an army.

Yes, that's because the Germans have this little thing called guilt from WW2 and therefore don't have an army.

IF they however decided to start producing tanks and fighter jets instead of cars and consumer electronics, they'd be kicking ass pretty quickly trust me. Germany is about the only western country with a strong economy and german engineering is top of the line.

IF Germany wanted it wouldn't take long for them to create a strong warmachine.

[pavel_eskimoso]

(11-11-2013 03:46 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

People can hate on Americans all they want, but remember Europeans, we are your army. If shit ever hits the fan in Europe, who are you guys running to? Europes army is weak and the rely on us for their security.

It's fuckin hilarious to hear Americans mentally jerking off to this idea of "the greatest military force the world has ever known" etc. 10 years later and still cant conquer Afghanistan. Ditto for Iraq.

Look, in terms of military technology, there's no doubt the US reigns supreme. Ground combat? Fuck no. Also, I hate to point out that the US constantly picks on weaker nations and bombs the fuck outta them. If that makes you "the greatest" then so be it. It's like pitting the 95 Chicago Bulls vs. the Denver Nuggets. Are you fuckin kidding me?

[Volk]

I don't hate on Americans, they are good for business. Nobody else falls as easily for hustles and overpricing.

[El_Superbeasto]

(11-11-2013 04:47 PM)scandibro Wrote:  

Yes, that's because the Germans lost WW2 and therefore don't have an army.

^FTFY

(11-11-2013 05:08 PM)pavel_eskimoso Wrote:  

10 years later and still cant conquer Afghanistan. Ditto for Iraq.

Last I checked we knocked over the govt's of both of those countries in a matter of days. At this point it's more armed insurgency than war. Tough to stop that without resorting to tactics that would make those commies in the EU piss themselves.

[InternationPlayboy]

No one who has ever gone to war in Afghanistan had ever been able to win, including the soviets at their prime. It's a different kind of combat. The afghans are not a threat to us. They have a 0% chance of ever taking down America in our home land, so they aren't an immediate threat.

Europe 100% relies on America for it's security. Any German military strategist would tell you the same, as I've personally seen a few of them mention it in interviews. Germany would no way be able to come close to the type of army we have. What, do you think they'd be able to all of a sudden up and surpass the US with the last 70 years we've pumped into our military? Not anytime in the foreseeable future, and to believe so is delusional if you know what you're talking about.

A number of countries rely on America for security. The reason Taiwan isn't taken over by china is because of America. The reason North Korea doesn't fuck with the south is because of us. The reason Kuwait wasn't taken over by saddam, because of the us. The massacre in Yugoslavia wasn't handled until we stepped in, while European nations stood by and watched, waiting for America to step in. Pretty sure I don't even have to mention israel.