[Prosal]

(04-16-2013 08:01 AM)gandt Wrote:  

Objectives:
I want to be clear about my objectives of this trip. Due to the short nature of my stay, I had no intention of going on dates, coffee meet ups, etc...

There is actually few chances to find one-night-stand drunk sluts in places like Rossi or Laque. On your next stay in Piter, you should try XXXX Bars (there is something like 10 branches in town) or Coyote Ugly, i.e fun places that are upscale and drinking hole under one roof. You'll find there a typically russian drunk, debauched and festive atmosphere. On weekend it most often goes wild crazy and looses all morals with impromptu dancing on the bar, strip contests where drunk sluts are ready to bare it all for a tequila bottle, alcohol flowing, ect .....the music as you may have guessed is old school '80s and '70s Western rock and pop that everyone can dance and get lively too, as a young guy you might find that boring, but personally I am older and prefer danceable and fun chart music instead of the standard mind-numbing, spirit-crushing techno/electro (or whatever you call it). Clients are of all ages and social groups, young successful professionals, arty people, MILFs on party mood, girls with modest jobs, well-heeled women, tourists, bikers, ect, but all co-mingle with equal abandon. Highly recommanded.

http://xxxxbar.ru/

Coyote Ugly Piter (you can skip the first minute):

As a side note, I find that this kind of debauched and uber-fun places lacks in Bucarest, Kiev, ect, where nightlife is essentially clubs or pubs, and few things in-between.

[gandt]

(05-03-2013 04:48 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 08:01 AM)gandt Wrote:  

Objectives:
I want to be clear about my objectives of this trip. Due to the short nature of my stay, I had no intention of going on dates, coffee meet ups, etc...

There is actually few chances to find one-night-stand drunk sluts in places like Rossi or Laque. On your next stay in Piter, you should try XXXX Bars (there is something like 10 branches in town) or Coyote Ugly, i.e fun places that are upscale and drinking hole under one roof. You'll find there a typically russian drunk, debauched and festive atmosphere. On weekend it most often goes wild crazy and looses all morals with impromptu dancing on the bar, strip competitions where drunk sluts are ready to bare it all for a whisky bottle, alcohol flowing, ect. The music as you may have guessed is old school '80s and '70s Western rock and pop that everyone can dance and get lively too, as a young guy you might find that boring, but personally I am older and prefer danceable and fun chart music instead of the standard mind-numbing, spirit-crushing techno/electro (or whatever you call it). Clients are of all ages and social groups, young successful professionals, arty people, MILFs on a party mood, girls with modest jobs, bikers, ect, but all co-mingle with equal abandon. Highly ecommanded.

As a side note, I find that this kind of debauched and uber-fun places lacks in Bucarest, Kiev, ect, where nightlife is essentially clubs or pubs.

Yeah, one of the bars that Mark Manson recommended on here is called Fidels or something.

I personally wanted to go to these kinds of clubs but the company I was with preferred upscale.

I definitely want to hit the more laid back bars when I get back, which is hopefully soon. Summertime might warrant a visit.

[gadabout]

I am going around August/September time. Keep up the data... good stuff!

(05-03-2013 04:53 AM)gandt Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 04:48 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 08:01 AM)gandt Wrote:  

Objectives:
I want to be clear about my objectives of this trip. Due to the short nature of my stay, I had no intention of going on dates, coffee meet ups, etc...

There is actually few chances to find one-night-stand drunk sluts in places like Rossi or Laque. On your next stay in Piter, you should try XXXX Bars (there is something like 10 branches in town) or Coyote Ugly, i.e fun places that are upscale and drinking hole under one roof. You'll find there a typically russian drunk, debauched and festive atmosphere. On weekend it most often goes wild crazy and looses all morals with impromptu dancing on the bar, strip competitions where drunk sluts are ready to bare it all for a whisky bottle, alcohol flowing, ect. The music as you may have guessed is old school '80s and '70s Western rock and pop that everyone can dance and get lively too, as a young guy you might find that boring, but personally I am older and prefer danceable and fun chart music instead of the standard mind-numbing, spirit-crushing techno/electro (or whatever you call it). Clients are of all ages and social groups, young successful professionals, arty people, MILFs on a party mood, girls with modest jobs, bikers, ect, but all co-mingle with equal abandon. Highly ecommanded.

As a side note, I find that this kind of debauched and uber-fun places lacks in Bucarest, Kiev, ect, where nightlife is essentially clubs or pubs.

Yeah, one of the bars that Mark Manson recommended on here is called Fidels or something.

I personally wanted to go to these kinds of clubs but the company I was with preferred upscale.

I definitely want to hit the more laid back bars when I get back, which is hopefully soon. Summertime might warrant a visit.

[Prosal]

(05-03-2013 04:53 AM)gandt Wrote:  

Summertime might warrant a visit.

Coyote Ugly has a branch in Moscow, and another in Ekaterinburg BTW.

[Prosal]

(05-03-2013 04:53 AM)gandt Wrote:  

I definitely want to hit the more laid back bars when I get back, which is hopefully soon. Summertime might warrant a visit.

You should try salsa clubs. Salsa clubs in Russia - it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

[gandt]

(05-03-2013 05:54 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 04:53 AM)gandt Wrote:  

I definitely want to hit the more laid back bars when I get back, which is hopefully soon. Summertime might warrant a visit.

You should try salsa clubs. Salsa clubs in Russia - it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

I'm going back in June or July. When are you going?

[Prosal]

Dunno. I might go to Nashetvie in Tver beginning of July, but it's not sure yet.

September is better than Jul/Aug to go to Russia (or to almost anywhere in FSU apart from Black Sea resorts for that matter). Party scene is at its best. Girls just come back all suntanned and horny from vacations and don't want to give up the party mood.

[The Fantasist]

Got to say it's great to have you on board the forum Prosal.

You're sharing a lot of great info about the FSU and I like the way you back up a lot of your posts with photographic evidence that you have taken yourself to prove a point.

Top work mon ami.

[gandt]

(05-06-2013 07:26 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

Dunno. I might go to Nashetvie in Tver beginning of July, but it's not sure yet.

September is better than Jul/Aug to go to Russia (or to almost anywhere in FSU apart from Black Sea resorts for that matter). Party scene is at its best. Girls just come back all suntanned and horny from vacations and don't want to give up the party mood.

What's going on in Nashetvie in July? Anything special?

Also, do you speak russian?

[Prosal]

(05-06-2013 08:07 AM)gandt Wrote:  

What's going on in Nashetvie in July? Anything special?

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-23552-...#pid437889

My russian is basic.

[hayesbrandon30]

i have a legit question for the OP. what types of beauties did you see there?

eright now i'm talking with a girl who is from azerbaijan, baku. she's a beautiful 7. she's middle eastarn looking but she grew up in st.petersburg. So it leads me to believe that blonde and white is not the only type of beauty there.

i keep hearing that certain parts of russia have different mixes of types of rusisan girls. and in their history, stalin mixed people up like that.

so did you see

1.any red-heads?


2. any bruenettes?



4. fake blondes?



5. any beautiful-brown-middle eastern looking russian women?


6.russian girls with beautiful tanned skin?.


7. any eurasian (asian & white) mixed girls.


and how about body shape and height? petite? big boobs? long legs?

[Prosal]

Brandon, without being polemical nor discuting your tastes, none of the girls above is more than a 4/4.5 by FSU standarts.

Olga Kurylenko is a 8.5/9 by russian standarts. From there, you make your scale.

To answer your question, many people think that all FSU women are livid white-pale clones of Putin. Well, they are deadly wrong. The reason why the women are so beautiful in this part of the world is the mixing of the 250 different ethnic groups that composed the russian empire (in 1900 the third largest population in the world at the time), and then the Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik (which covered a sixth of the Earth's land surface) and its satellites. From what I know, no country is more ethnically diverse than Russia - 180 different ethnic groups if my memory serves.

[gandt]

(05-06-2013 12:54 PM)Prosal Wrote:  

Brandon, without being polemical nor discuting your tastes, none of the girls above is more than a 4/4.5 by FSU standarts.

Olga Kurylenko is a 8.5/9 by russian standarts. From there, you make your scale.

To answer your question, many people think that all FSU women are livid white-pale clones of Putin. Well, they are deadly wrong. The reason why the women are so beautiful in this part of the world is the mixing of the 250 different ethnic groups that composed the russian empire (in 1900 the third largest population in the world at the time), and then the Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik (which covered a sixth of the Earth's land surface) and its satellites. From what I know, no country is more ethnically diverse than Russia - 180 different ethnic groups if my memory serves.

Couldn't agree more. Take advice from these guys. They know way more than me about Russia. But I agree that the girls you posted are below 5 for Russian standards

[hayesbrandon30]

really? they're all ugly? wow, have a look at this video that i took the screenshots from. maybe seeing the faces inmotion will change your mind?

i mean sure there are prettier women there in russia, but i was think these girls are in atleast the 7 category -

but yeah that answers my question but i was curious about what the OP saw in st.petersburg not what the history of the diversity of russia was.

did he see mostly blondes? i'm sure he saw beautiful women but i'm curious about the type he saw.

[BCZalgyris]

(05-06-2013 02:43 PM)hayesbrandon30 Wrote:  

really? they're all ugly? wow, have a look at this video that i took the screenshots from. maybe seeing the faces inmotion will change your mind?

i mean sure there are prettier women there in russia, but i was think these girls are in atleast the 7 category -

but yeah that answers my question but i was curious about what the OP saw in st.petersburg not what the history of the diversity of russia was.

did he see mostly blondes? i'm sure he saw beautiful women but i'm curious about the type he saw.

Lena, the girl in the top video is about a 6-6.5, the girl in the pink panties in the bottom video is around a 6.5 by Russian Standards however the problem over there is that it is very hard to judge women as the use of makeup borders on the ridiculous. I'd go for both of them but then again as I always say when you are over there "for every hour you spend hitting on a 6 you could be hitting on a 9". A girl very similar to this (pic is of ex tennis pro Anna Kournikova)

"scammed me" for a few meals in Kiev and she wasn't even the best looking that day.

[hayesbrandon30]

okay. it makes sense. i see that i have alot to learn. but in all honesty, you have to excuse me because i'm still learning and i'm still in the junior league and i'm learning the game. the whole concept of beauty has changed for me in the last year.

i just see all the possibilities.

[gandt]

(05-07-2013 07:34 PM)hayesbrandon30 Wrote:  

okay. it makes sense. i see that i have alot to learn. but in all honesty, you have to excuse me because i'm still learning and i'm still in the junior league and i'm learning the game. the whole concept of beauty has changed for me in the last year.

i just see all the possibilities.

That's the whole point of game. To open your life up to new possibilities.

As per my experience in russia there are tons of different looks to choose from.

Brunettes, blondes, red heads, etc...

Ethnically it seemed to be pretty homogenous though. At least amongst high end STP nightlife, which is what I frequented.

But there are many asians there too.

The hottest women seemed to be blond main-city talent and then the gorgeous girls from Eastern Russia with darker features.

[Bacchus]

In addition to Moscow, I also spent 2 nights in St. Petersburg on my most recent trip to Russia.

Getting there: I took the train from Moscow to St. Petersburgs. I took the overnight train to get there and a day train to go back. At night I could sleep in a bunk bed. The day train took me about 10 hours, although there are faster ones available.

The girls:

Honestly, I didn't really notice a difference in the quality between Moscow and St. Petersburg. Maybe if you've spent time in Russia before, each city's girls will have their own features, but if you're coming straight from the US, they're the same. The only difference I could see is that St. Petersburg girls are more artsy.

Bars:

Mishka Bar: This small bar is located near Nevsky. There are two rooms, one for dancing, the other for talking. Both have bars. I was surprised by the quality of the English at this bar, as it seemed everybody was able to hold a complex conversation.

Barak Obama Bar: This is a club, with light face control. Lots of girls done up in heels and tight dresses. I don't know if they were really hotter than the ones at Mishka Bar or are just presenting themselves better. If you speak English in front of the bouncers, you shouldn't have any problems getting past. The cover for men was 400 rubles when I went.

Restaurants: If you want to run G-Man restaurant game, I would recommend Khochu Kharcho, a Georgian restaurant that is open 24 hours.

St. Petersburg also has a bunch of places with Russian style crepes, with the option of various fillings. Good and cheap.

Misc:

Don't forget about the bridges at night. Once they draw, you'll have to wait until morning to get to another island. Both of these bars above are on the mainland, so you won't have a problem if you are staying there.

[presidentcarter]

(05-16-2013 06:31 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  

Don't forget about the bridges at night. Once they draw, you'll have to wait until morning to get to another island. Both of these bars above are on the mainland, so you won't have a problem if you are staying there.

Related: http://englishrussia.com/2013/05/06/nigh...ore-123164

[hayesbrandon30]

(05-16-2013 06:31 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  

The girls:

Honestly, I didn't really notice a difference in the quality between Moscow and St. Petersburg. Maybe if you've spent time in Russia before, each city's girls will have their own features, but if you're coming straight from the US, they're the same. The only difference I could see is that St. Petersburg girls are more artsy.
Bars:


Barak Obama Bar: This is a club, with light face control. Lots of girls done up in heels and tight dresses. I don't know if they were really hotter than the ones at Mishka Bar or are just presenting themselves better. If you speak English in front of the bouncers, you shouldn't have any problems getting past. The cover for men was 400 rubles when I went.

its good to know st.petersburg women are artsy. i'm an artistic type myself. good information.

. ha ha...are you serious. Barack Obama bar? does the president know he has a russian night club named after him. ha ha..

i'm gonna ask my female contact there about that club. thanks for telling me about this.

does the name imply they are accepting of minorities in the club? or is it just named that for style reasons. because it stands out?

[gandt]

I have been to both Moscow and stp but I am unable to see the distinction of stp girls being more artsy. More laid back? Certainly. Artsy? Kinda hard to say of a city with a population of XY million people.

In fact, where I went out the girls were quite posh.

[Bacchus]

(05-17-2013 08:21 PM)gandt Wrote:  

I have been to both Moscow and stp but I am unable to see the distinction of stp girls being more artsy. More laid back? Certainly. Artsy? Kinda hard to say of a city with a population of XY million people.

In fact, where I went out the girls were quite posh.

No doubt there are normal girls dressed up nicely in both cities, but I saw more girls wearing leggings, hats, or messenger bags in St. Petersburg than in Moscow. My take was that the artsy scene is bigger in St. Petersburg.

I did notice one other difference. In Moscow, every restaurant had a lot of Central Asian (Uzbek, Kyrgyz, etc.) workers, while in St. Petersburg the restaurants had fewer.

@hayesbrandon30 - The club was completely full of Russians. I think the name is for style, because it was a normal club (although not ultra exclusive).

[gadabout]

St Petersburg has been on the cards for while so I'm headed back to Russia next week for a few weeks. GandT, or anyone who has knowledge of the city can you tell me hands down the best location to rent an apartment? Ideally walking distance to some decent night venues and places to explore in the daytime.
Before my trip to Moscow there was no solid data on the forum so I had to work hard to find the best locations which meant I wasted 50% of my time going out on the wrong nights and to crappy venues. I won't have the stamina to do the same this time round so any further input would be hugely appreciated.
Also if anyone is out there during there in October feel free to hit me up.

[Brosemite]

Anybody have suggestions for St. Petersburg if I were to head there from December 11th-16th? I have to make one international trip that's preferably "far" to retain my benefits with my airline as I'm aware of the visa policies now for Americans.

Is the cold going to be too overbearing? Are many going to be in town while living actively? All this info on the thread has helped substantially so far. Thx.