[dvjackson]

There are plenty of college-age girls that like older men. Don't try to be 20, you have a niche so take advantage of it.

[Deepdiver]

(04-01-2013 04:37 PM)DVY Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 03:22 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

Whatever you do - do not drive in Russia - see dash cam YT videos - YOU WILL be scammed jammed or rammed and it will cost you.

Secret is if you are a man of action, sober and a good man Russian women expect to share with another Russian woman anyways.

Choice is yours the betas go over to become Green Card Mules the Alphas go over to be Stallions and take care of biznyess.

2nd the DO NOT DRIVE theme. My dad got jammed up by militizia in moscow. He had a chaffeur. They were stopping every car on the way out from the restaurant, and checking them. He had an American passport, but speaks fluent Russian. Cop- Listen, I can hold you up at the station for 3-4 hours, or we can work something out... Dad- hands over 1k rubles. If he was driving this woulda easily been 5k roubles.

As for a man of action- yes, sober- relatively, sharing women- big no no at least in public. Everybody talks and the social circles are tiny. Keep it discreet.

As a person doing business, Russians expect you to drink. If you dont drink and can't keep composure, you will get no TRUST. Best start training your liver....

But of course Discreetly - Gunvor's Gennady Timchenko (Putin's boyhood school friend) maintains a $100B+ off shore war chest in Switzerland for Putin, Chairman of Russia Inc and his Chief Consigliere Medvedev should they ever need it.

The Oiligarchs - both above and below the 9th levels all do what they are told by the Chairman - No one effs with the Russians and Wall Street calls the shots in the USA and they all want a piece of the Russian $500B+++ Trade Surplus which is only going to explode once they begin fracking in a serious way.

Ever wonder why China is having NK Threaten to attack SK and the USA??? That punk NK midget does not blow his nose without permission from Beijng - and who did Beijing just sign a mega energy deal with MOSCOW. Entire NK cage rattling ruse is to get Moscow on their side to have first shot at that $500+ B pie while US is too busy buzzing B1s instead of doing real BIZ like the Chinese.

Obama does what Wall Street TELLS him to do.

Of course Putin and Medvedev as the penultimate Alpha and Alpha Wing man both discreetly have mistresses - of course the Rules for popping-ratzzis and the press are different in Moscow and all of Russia.

No fotos. No articles - period.

And - No Michelle Obama style snapping her fingers and Barack bounces to her beat in Russian power bedrooms. That is a fact.

It is of course all done discreetly as wealth wielded discreetly is true power.

[Deepdiver]

(04-01-2013 04:04 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 03:22 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

Choice is yours the betas go over to become Green Card Mules the Alphas go over to be Stallions and take care of biznyess.

Another great post Deepdiver.

Man,your insight on some topics is off the charts. I'm still digesting your Photo Game post and then there was something you posted in my 'Shored A Whore In Moscow' thread that I have been meaning to get back to you on.

I'm going to be sending you a PM once I've digested some of this knowledge.

Thanks for the mention V-Dawg - nothing beats on the ground experience when you get situated let me know via PM and I will send my private email and then see what trade opps/shows are in your area and give you a few to look into tied to several of my plans as I plan to hit a few trade shows for networking there later this year and if all goes well become bi-lingual as well as $500+ Beez draws a lot of buzz

[beta_plus]

God I feel like an idiot.

I thought FSU meant "Florida State University (system)".

This thread started to get really weird until I figured out my mistake.

BTW, girls at FSU are very hot by American standards.

[Deepdiver]

(04-01-2013 11:35 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  

God I feel like an idiot.

I thought FSU meant "Florida State University (system)".

This thread started to get really weird until I figured out my mistake.

BTW, girls at FSU are very hot by American standards.

No worries I always thought it meant Fine Soviet Union chicks

[iknowexactly]

(04-01-2013 12:19 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I am almost 40. I game on college campuses everyday.

It's very simple. It's really no different then being 20 years old.

The formula is the same..

Talk to girls
Make connections
Build a social circle
Talk to girls
Get their contact info
Take them on dates
Bang them
Repeat

It's really that easy. GIRLS LOVE OLDER GUYS!

Be sure to dress well. Thats important for older guys on campus.

I'm over 50 and I still get IOIs, but mostly from Asians.
I've lived in college towns pretty much all my life, everyplace else is dull or totally money centered.

40 is NOTHING, if you take care of yourself you can easily pass for 33 and a LOT of girls really prefer a guy that can carry on a conversation.
Especially now when a lot of young guys are into those horrific game console shooter games, the sports teams, all the shit that bores bitches to tears.

I was too dumb to lie about my age when I was 40-45, but it probably helps.
Do it now, because it gets A LOT harder when you drift into your mid-fifties. Then they know
you're 2 to 3 generations away from them and you mainly get interest from girls that have that particular fetish.

[Northern]

(04-01-2013 11:11 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

Ever had that dream of going back to school as an adult and doing all the things right that you got wrong the first time round,being the cool guy and banging the cheerleaders?

Well I just received an email from a university in the FSU offering me a place on their year long Russian language programme beginning in September. I intend to accept. By that time I will be almost 40.

I'd like some in put from you guys about how would you play it specifically. If you had your time again what would you do different in terms of chasing skirt at uni? How would you turn being much older than everyone else into a positive? Is there a taboo on gaming staff members? Should I run suit game on campus? Would you go into the university hostel or would you rent your own place ( or even stay with a host family for that matter )? etc.etc.

Also if anyone here has studied at an FSU university then feel free to chip in with some knowledge about campus life on and off-campus.

Let's hear some feedback from you cats.

There is no such a thing in FSU as "sexual harassment" (virtually). The worst thing that can happen if you smack a girl on her nice round ass, she will use her fingernails on your face So, gaming on campus is definitely possible. In your case, you can always say "I just want to improve my Russian by talking to strangers".

Make friends with the guys you study or meet and invite them a couple of times to your place for some vodka (OK, for [b]a lot[b] of vodka). After that, they will consider you a “cool dude” and will not cockblock you but, on the contrary, will be willing to hang out with you and bring girls.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Vorkuta,
First of all, congrats on the offer of acceptance from the University in Russia. Needless to say, you will have a rock star experience there!As to which game style to adopt there, and I'm sure you already know and have realized this from your numerous travels to Russia, that the dating scene and the entire male female dynamics are totally different from that of the UK and of the Anglosphere. Thankfully, Russia is a male dominated society and it is reflected by its laws and ways of doing things. All in all, you will have a very fullfilling experience there. Keep me updated on your progress and I might just drop by next year for a visit.

Deepdiver,
I LOVE your posts! They are among THE most interesting and insightful in all of the RVF! I've already saved your fabulous post on the photography game and I'm going to do the same for your Russia post on this thread! Please do continue to post more those absolutely diamond filled nuggets that are your posts!

Cheers!

[Lemmo]

I'm in this same position except I'm considering going to language school instead of university. Hardly seems to be anyone over 22 in these places but you see the occasional 30+ guy and the admin assures me there are students in their 30s so it seems like you won't be under too much of a microscope or stick out too much.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Delete.

[The Fantasist]

(04-02-2013 02:02 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Keep me updated on your progress and I might just drop by next year for a visit.

For sure buddy, hit me up any time you want to come out.

I've got your Skype name down so I'll be getting a couple of local devs to give you a Skype 'show' before you come out to give you a taster as to what to expect on the ground.

(04-02-2013 02:07 AM)Lemmo Wrote:  

I'm in this same position except I'm considering going to language school instead of university. Hardly seems to be anyone over 22 in these places but you see the occasional 30+ guy and the admin assures me there are students in their 30s so it seems like you won't be under too much of a microscope or stick out too much.

The course I have been told I can take part in is not any different than a language school except it's a bit cheaper. It's not a degree course or anything like that just language classes that happen to be held at a university really. Being accepted just means they have available places. What language you wanting to study Lemmo?

I spoke to an ex yesterday who studied in the city where I will be going. I mentioned the name of the university I will probably be going to and her exact words were 'I know that university, it's full of girls'. Raised a smile.

[Sonsowey]

I studied abroad at age 20, but there were several older people among us younger kids. One of my best friends from the experience was in his 30s.

I really think the ypunger folks dont care about age so much as attitude.

I think a key thing is to be social and go out drinking w everyone immediately. Stay out late, party, dance, whatever everyone else is doing. Just dont act like an old fart and try not to dress too stiffly or formally.

[Sebastian]

I honestly don't understand people's comments above.

Realistically, I see lots of problem with it. But I don't want to be labeled as 'game denialist' or 'just negative minded person'

how about asking this on dating forum where men and women hang out?

I assume women will say it's possible for a young college girl (19~21) dating a graduate student guy (late 20's) I can just guess what kind of response you will get if you mention 40+ age.

they don't care about some extra money older guys have. (then we won't see those lonely older men in the corner of the bar who can pay for endless shots for girls)
they'd rather hangout with a cute bf around their age and drink $2 PBR.
As we know, they care about 'coolness' (looks, vibe, fashion, interest etc) at that age.
it's because social acceptance from a certain group is very important for them. Avoiding any kind of gossip is important too.

maybe you can just meet them naturally but walking around campus regularly to game them??
that will draw a lot of attention if you keep doing it.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Sebastien, your response might apply to the US but not Russia which is a totally different ball game altogether. With totally different rules.

Vorkuta,
Awesome man! Cant wait to feast my eyes on those devs' shows!

[Sebastian]

Yeah I am sure there are culture differences.
I remember some guy talked about, in eastern europe, it's ok for a guy in late 20's to bang 17 year old girl in her parents house and have a breakfast with parents in the morning.

Obviously this is not possible in U.S.

(04-02-2013 12:37 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Sebastien, your response might apply to the US but not Russia which is a totally different ball game altogether. With totally different rules.

Vorkuta,
Awesome man! Cant wait to feast my eyes on those devs' shows!

[Suits]

(04-02-2013 12:49 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

I remember some guy talked about, in eastern europe, it's ok for a guy in late 20's to bang 17 year old girl in her parents house and have a breakfast with parents in the morning.

Obviously this is not possible in U.S.

Wow, that is awesome.

[OGNorCal707]

Gio what is the average quality (on the 1 to 10 scale) that you end up pulling on college campuses? I know you have supreme confidence, experience, and air-tight game, but I'd be really impressed if you are hooking up with girls that rate 7.5+ on the scale.

[Giovonny]

First off, my game is not "air-tight". What I have is fearlessness and alot of experience.

My game is actually very average. I just approach alot of girls with confidence. It's a numbers game. I don't pull girls because of how tight my game is, I pull girls because of how many I approach.

My game is getting better, slowly but surely..

When we met 2 years ago, I was pulling in the 6-7 range. Now, I am pulling in the 7-8 range.

As my game has gotten better, my quality has gotten higher.

When I first started, it was alot of 6s and 6.5's. Now, I'm starting to pull 7s, 7.5's and even a few 8's.

In another year or 2, I will be consistently pulling 8's. I'm starting to get more attention from 8s. It's because I am dressing better and carrying myself with more swag.

Bottom line: If you want 8's, you have to approach alot of 8s.

I just had a great approach on a legit 9

[Deepdiver]

(04-02-2013 02:02 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Vorkuta,
First of all, congrats on the offer of acceptance from the University in Russia. Needless to say, you will have a rock star experience there!As to which game style to adopt there, and I'm sure you already know and have realized this from your numerous travels to Russia, that the dating scene and the entire male female dynamics are totally different from that of the UK and of the Anglosphere. Thankfully, Russia is a male dominated society and it is reflected by its laws and ways of doing things. All in all, you will have a very fullfilling experience there. Keep me updated on your progress and I might just drop by next year for a visit.

Deepdiver,
I LOVE your posts! They are among THE most interesting and insightful in all of the RVF! I've already saved your fabulous post on the photography game and I'm going to do the same for your Russia post on this thread! Please do continue to post more those absolutely diamond filled nuggets that are your posts!

Cheers!

Mille Gracie e Prego!

[Deepdiver]

(04-01-2013 04:04 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 03:22 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

Choice is yours the betas go over to become Green Card Mules the Alphas go over to be Stallions and take care of biznyess.

Another great post Deepdiver.

Man,your insight on some topics is off the charts. I'm still digesting your Photo Game post and then there was something you posted in my 'Shored A Whore In Moscow' thread that I have been meaning to get back to you on.

I'm going to be sending you a PM once I've digested some of this knowledge.

@Vorkuta... OBTW - Will help to know the international USA EU RU etc etc Export Rules and Concepts - easy - read this and know and study "Incoterms":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoterms

   

   

This will make any of my contracts you may see much more understandable as all legit international trade follows incoterms latest 2010 and updates - if it does not - we just say thank you and walk away smartly.

[Hotwheels]

(04-02-2013 01:26 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

When I first started, it was alot of 6s and 6.5's. Now, I'm starting to pull 7s, 7.5's and even a few 8's.

Bottom line: If you want 8's, you have to approach alot of 8s.

I just had a great approach on a legit 9

A 21 year old college 6 is an 8 to a 43 year old....

[Giovonny]

(04-02-2013 02:42 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(04-02-2013 01:26 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

When I first started, it was alot of 6s and 6.5's. Now, I'm starting to pull 7s, 7.5's and even a few 8's.

Bottom line: If you want 8's, you have to approach alot of 8s.

I just had a great approach on a legit 9

A 21 year old college 6 is an 8 to a 43 year old....

21 ?!?!?!

I prefer 18 or 19!

[Hotwheels]

cradle robber!!!

[Aliblahba]

PERVY WANKER!

[deathtofatties]

(04-01-2013 11:45 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 11:35 AM)alphanov Wrote:  

You little middle-age-crisis rascal. You wanna use your cash and experience to outgame the young dudes? If I met you in person in MY CAMPUS trying to claim MY PUSSY FIELD, I'd make sure to make that as awkward as possible for you.

You just outed yourself as a cock blocker. Great job Einstein. If you are cock blocking, you don't have a pussy field.

Cockblocking should be totally illegal.