[starmaze]

(04-02-2013 01:26 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

First off, my game is not "air-tight". What I have is fearlessness and alot of experience.

My game is actually very average. I just approach alot of girls with confidence. It's a numbers game. I don't pull girls because of how tight my game is, I pull girls because of how many I approach.

My game is getting better, slowly but surely..

When we met 2 years ago, I was pulling in the 6-7 range. Now, I am pulling in the 7-8 range.

As my game has gotten better, my quality has gotten higher.

When I first started, it was alot of 6s and 6.5's. Now, I'm starting to pull 7s, 7.5's and even a few 8's.

In another year or 2, I will be consistently pulling 8's. I'm starting to get more attention from 8s. It's because I am dressing better and carrying myself with more swag.

Bottom line: If you want 8's, you have to approach alot of 8s.

I just had a great approach on a legit 9

What is your point of reference when yo say your game is averge? I mean comapring to what? Can you bring some examples of strong game?

[lavidaloca]

read his posts. its clear he has good game. Giovanny provides insightful knowledge, tips, and advice frequently. He has also met with a few members who have evaluated his game. I believe WestCoast evaluated his game and spoke well of it although said he could dress a bit better and that he was in exceptional physical shape (I read this probably 6 months ago so I could be way off here.)

I believe that WestCoast suggested he tried to dress more his age as oppose to trying to dress like someone in the college scene. That was the only negative criticism I recall. Based on Giovanny's character presented in the forums I'm sure he took to the criticism and made improvements on it. Forgive me if I was wrong on this Giovanny, I have a good memory but I read that so long ago. He is one of the guys I have the least doubt about on the entire forum and that says something when there are so many quality posters.

[Lemmo]

(04-02-2013 03:56 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

The course I have been told I can take part in is not any different than a language school except it's a bit cheaper. It's not a degree course or anything like that just language classes that happen to be held at a university really. Being accepted just means they have available places. What language you wanting to study Lemmo?

Japanese or Portuguese. It depends on where I decide to be based.

[Atilla]

Every person here should seriously consider heading to his local university’s library come finals time, especially if that library has floors for group study. Should be around mid-May.

No joke. When I was in school, it was the same every single semester before/during finals: people hooking up, making friends, ordering pizzas, and enjoying themselves until 2 AM getting barely any studying done.

You can say you needed to use the library (non-nerdy reason like foreign language books for vacation overseas, cook book, book relating to your business that the public library doesn’t carry, whatever). Hell, if you want to have fun with this, you could even just say you’re a student. School’s out practically the next day anyway.

[Giovonny]

(04-03-2013 02:41 AM)starmaze Wrote:  

What is your point of reference when you say your game is average?

Guys I know with very good game.

(04-03-2013 02:41 AM)starmaze Wrote:  

I mean comapring to what?

My dad and my brother have stronger game then me.

I have a few friends that are really, really good.

(04-03-2013 02:41 AM)starmaze Wrote:  

Can you bring some examples of strong game?

I would study these guys:

Roosh

G

Mixx

(04-03-2013 02:51 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

I believe WestCoast evaluated his game and spoke well of it although said he could dress a bit better and that he was in exceptional physical shape

Correct.

I am now dressing better, which has really helped my game.

WestCoast also helped me improve my workouts.

I am now in better shape and dressing better, which means girls are checking me out, giving me alot of eye contact, smiles, and trying to talk to me.

(04-03-2013 02:51 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

I believe that WestCoast suggested he tried to dress more his age as oppose to trying to dress like someone in the college scene.

Exactly. I used to dress like a beach bum. Shorts, t-shirts, tennis shoes or jeans, t-shirt, sweatshirt, tennis shoes. I still pulled girls so I didn't think it was a problem.

WestCoast taught me the basics of style and fashion.

Now, I'm getting approached by girls. (Occasionally)

My physical looks have improved one full point because of my fashion upgrade.

Throw in a fresh haircut every 2 weeks, clean, white teeth, and good skin care..

I think I went from a 6.75 to an 8 in about 2 months.

(04-03-2013 03:21 AM)Atilla Wrote:  

Every person here should seriously consider heading to his local university’s library come finals time

No joke.

I know you are not joking. I do this every semester.

I wrote a Data Sheet on it:

Final Exam Week!

[TheBulldozer]

Gio,

You have inspired me to get some work done today at my nearest college campus' Starbucks.

I hate Starbucks, but guess what, 19 year old girls love Starbucks!

[Giovonny]

(04-06-2013 11:07 AM)MaleDefined Wrote:  

Gio,

You have inspired me to get some work done today at my nearest college campus' Starbucks.

I hate Starbucks, but guess what, 19 year old girls love Starbucks!

Awesome.

Also, go to your local college/university, they will have a coffee shop/cafe.

While you're there, go into the library, the gym, the food court, the quad, the theatre, the campus apartments.

You will be surrounded by 19 year olds!

[Suits]

(04-08-2013 01:47 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 11:07 AM)MaleDefined Wrote:  

Gio,

You have inspired me to get some work done today at my nearest college campus' Starbucks.

I hate Starbucks, but guess what, 19 year old girls love Starbucks!

Awesome.

Also, go to your local college/university, they will have a coffee shop/cafe.

While you're there, go into the library, the gym, the food court, the quad, the theatre, the campus apartments.

You will be surrounded by 19 year olds!

Forum member Peregrine snuck me into a student only quad party at his university last Friday night.

It was awesome. I told everyone that I was a fourth year student and no one questioned my carefully prepared story.

I drank for free all night and dirty danced with 19 yr olds.

It was too funny.

Night game in a noisy environment isn't my strength, so I didn't pull anyone, but before they started playing loud music, girls were really warming up to me in a dorm lounge. I got some definite possibilities to follow up.

Can't wait to go back to school full time.

[rudebwoy]

Studied at the local univ today, some nice young talent in leggings and tights. A few girls give me a look, not sure if it is a good look or bad.

[bojangles]

(04-08-2013 05:08 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Studied at the local univ today, some nice young talent in leggings and tights. A few girls give me a look, not sure if it is a good look or bad.

Approach lad! then you'll know whether its good or bad

[Weebs]

(04-01-2013 05:26 PM)dvjackson Wrote:  

There are plenty of college-age girls that like older men. Don't try to be 20, you have a niche so take advantage of it.

Exactly right. I am 33. I went back to school recently. It was the best decision I have ever made. Try to get involved in clubs, go to tutoring and hang out at school as much as you can.

Without ANY effort I banged a 24 year old Dominican girl from my study group and my 28 year old tutor last semester as well as became friends/got numbers/emails from 5 or 6 others. I also got laid by a friend of one of the girls I talk to. She hooked me up with her. It is refreshing to rebuild a social circle. I have a couple professors i would love to bang but i havent tried that yet. I'm no expert, that's why I am here but from what I experienced, just the daily interaction with tons of chicks that you wouldn't really have access to is great. Just be yourself and act your age and everything else falls into place. This is my personal experience, hope it helps.

[Giovonny]

I have been coming across another type of girl that likes to bang older guys..

The Sexually Curious College Freshman

She is away from home for the first time, she is finally free from her parents rules, she recently turned 18, she finally has some privacy. She has been waiting for this moment for years.

She gets to college and she wants to let loose and have some fun. She wants to fulfill some of her teenage sexual fantasies.

She will bang an older guy. She has been thinking about it for a few years.

I have been finding more and more of these girls.

Bang them when they are a freshman because after they bang a few older guys, they sometimes get over it. They feel like they tried it and they experienced it so they often settle back into guys their own age. You gotta try to catch them in that "experimental" or "fantasy" stage.

The first few months of school and winter break are the best times to catch a freshman looking to fulfill a fantasy.

Give them alcohol and drugs.

You're welcome.

[rudebwoy]

Gio - love your passion and your originality. +1 from me.

To the dudes asking if this will work in such a place, why not give it a try to find out?

[Amigoish]

How do you guys open the girls if you are not a student? I think it is probably indirect but what lines do you use most?

[Suits]

(04-10-2013 10:24 AM)beltoforion Wrote:  

How do you guys open the girls if you are not a student? I think it is probably indirect but what lines do you use most?

I would avoid asking for directions or using any other similar openers. Doing so will convey they you are an outsider.

People on a university campus can often be more open and less suspicious than someone you would meet on a street. While social circles do develop even on a campus, if you quickly demonstrate a clear ability to entertain, you'll be received well.

I'd go with Mystery style club openers. A unique question that sparks conversation. College girls love to use their highly educated and big brains to express their knowledge of the world.

Get them talking, but establish frame control by keeping them on a short leash by steering the dialogue and not letting it become about them and their spotlight.

A lot of people on college campuses are very happy to meet new people. They might not be interested in becoming friends with a new person, but they don't mind meeting them.

The opening is less important than quickly demonstrating your social value and therefore being viewed as a candidate for future social interaction.

Being acceptably dressed, entertaining and demonstrating social connectedness (party hookups) is much more important than the first thing out of your mouth.

Third and fourth year students tend to be a lot more discerning about their social group, but first and second year students haven't narrowed themselves down to the same two friends that they always hang out with yet and if you DHV acceptably, there WILL be a place for you on the roster.

[Giovonny]

(04-10-2013 10:24 AM)beltoforion Wrote:  

How do you guys open the girls if you are not a student? I think it is probably indirect but what lines do you use most?

Ignore the fact that you are on a college campus. Just approach as you would normally.

What lines do I use the most?

"Hi, how are you?"

"whats up, how are you?"

I use direct, indirect and "hybrid"

*****

This post sums it all up..

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21480-...#pid391114

(03-11-2013 02:03 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 10:57 PM)Irishman Wrote:  

How much intent do you show the first time you meet?

It depends. Sometimes, I go direct. Other times, I go indirect. It just depends on my vibe, the situation, and the girl.

If we are sitting together on public transportation, I know I will have 10-20 minutes to chat, so, I will not be in a hurry, I will just go indirect and try to have a lively, entertaining, engaging, funny chat with her.

After 10 or so minutes of that, I might say..

"hey, wanna exchange numbers sometime, we should get coffee or a beer or something"

Thats indirect. Not much intent shown at the start. I chatted first, them showed intention at the end.

Here is another example:

I am walking through the mall. I see a cute girl walking into a store that I am walking out of..

"excuse me miss, can I ask you something, i know this is totally random but I noticed you walking out and i wanted to come say hi and flirt with you for a minute, my name is gio, whats yours?"

Thats direct and I showed my intention from the beginning.

It really depends on the circumstances and the situation.

If I am dressed up and feeling sexy and I see a girl who is dressed up and looking sexy, I might just walk right up and say..

"hello, you look nice today"

Direct and intention shown. I don't have to play games. She looks good, I look good. I can get right to the point.

If I was dressed in jeans and a t-shirt and shopping at the grocery store I might not be so direct. If I see a girl at the grocery store, I might just say..

"hey, are these tomotoes good, im making salsa but i don't know which ones to use"

Thats indirect with no intention shown. I will try to get a chat going and build a connection using humor and things that we have in common.

I can also go direct in the grocery store..

"oh my god, you eat that stuff, how do you keep your body in such great shape if you eat that?"

Direct and intention shown .

I can also use mixed or "hybrid" method, which is indirect language but direct body language..

For example, "Damn, its so hot today"

As I say "Damn", I'm looking at her waist. Then I slowly move my eyes up her body and slowly say -- "its so hot today", then look her in the eyes without any fear or embarrassment and say --"I need to get some ice cream". I want her to feel the sexual charge I have for her.

Tonality is very important with this type of approach. The way you talk and your body/eye language is almost more important then what you say.

Direct and indirect are not our only options, there are other variations and mixtures of both. For example, your opener can be..indirect..

"Excuse me, how do I get downtown from here" -- But then your next sentence can be direct -- "Actually, I don't mind being lost, who are you little lady?

There is also the Krauser type approach which I really like..

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-14130-...#pid267823

Sometimes, I just tell them they have a nice ass..

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-4382-p...#pid259511

Every situation is different. Sometimes I show intention right away, sometimes I don't. There is a time for everything. Experiment with all styles to find the methods that YOU ARE MOST COMFORTABLE WITH.

When you see a girl you like -- Don't hesitate. Go talk to her in whatever style you can!

(03-08-2013 10:57 PM)Irishman Wrote:  

Are you going direct, more of a friendly vibe or do you switch it up.

I switch it up. I think I already answered this ablove ^^

(03-08-2013 10:57 PM)Irishman Wrote:  

Could you break down one or two of your successes.

Sure.

Here are a few of my favorites..

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-14257-...#pid316026

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-14130-...#pid391063

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-1623-p...l#pid13274

100% Day Game.

Student, no student. College, no college. On campus, off campus. Its all the same.

Strike up a lively conversation. Thats all you have to do!

Click on the links above, lots of examples..