[WestCoast]

Slacker, I was in a similar position as you, in particular I would add the following to the list.

1. Get a LTR. Yep... You read that right, in the beginning of the year just shoot for the freshmen every time and likely break up with them in the summer season which leads to number 2.
2. Figure out what you want to do for a career, yeah I come off as a career nazi on here but its honestly the best thing that has ever happened to me in my entire life. Maybe not finance/medical/law but any of your passions that pay well and start getting summer internships every damn summer. The crazy part? I WISH I WORKED HARDER. I took a summer off and fucked around with my girlfriend doing stupid shit instead and that set me back "resume wise" and if i had taken that path it would have added at least low 6 figures to the career path.
3. In a rare occassion i agree more with GMan than MikeCF, the hot chicks go to... Schools that are easy. So as Mike said go and try to party at the easier schools. If you're at a high end school take advantage of the high end opportunities.
4. Get into some sort of social circle as Cancer mentioned, doesn't have to be amazing but something that will help you get some sort of flow of girls.

Here are some other hacks
1. Take the "regular" classes at a community college if you can, since they simply count as passes and no one cares about them you can change your access, if you take 1-3 of them, no company really cares it will be ignored, but a full semester would be a ding for the major corps.
2. Game ugly girls. Yep, at least practice being social, study in the library and chat them up, no one is making you bang them.
3. Become a "tutor", you can bang the girls who are struggling in the easy classes, they tend to be cuter... see point 3 above.

If you have questions feel free to PM me. Oh also agree with Mike you can transfer as well, Ex: going from a claremont school to UCLA is a great game decision, not a big difference in prestige or you can do something like go to Harvard but then game at the plethora of other college campuses.

End of the day though, what's everyone else doing? They are fucking around... so thats usually a recepie for disaster. You can certainly do both (3.5+ GPA and game) just remember where your priorities are @.

[UrbanNerd]

About the community college route....

Community colleges are now better for you younger cats because they now are "1-for-1" with the first 2 years of 4-year universities. They were NOT like that when "oldheads" like myself were in college. There were WAY TOO MANY horror stories of community college grads who lost a bunch of credits when transferring to 4-year colleges because many community college were on their "own" semester/quarter agenda.

So to "be safe", many of us oldheads HAD to go directly to a 4-year college if we had goals of a bachelor's degree.

It's good that the community colleges have fixed this.

[WestCoast]

(03-14-2013 09:54 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

About the community college route....

Community colleges are now better for you younger cats because they now are "1-for-1" with the first 2 years of 4-year universities. They were NOT like that when "oldheads" like myself were in college. There were WAY TOO MANY horror stories of community college grads who lost a bunch of credits when transferring to 4-year colleges because many community college were on their "own" semester/quarter agenda.

So to "be safe", many of us oldheads HAD to go directly to a 4-year college if we had goals of a bachelor's degree.

It's good that the community colleges have fixed this.

Yeah only issue is it is "frowned upon" you get a transfer stigma from the real elite universities. You can get away with maybe 3-4 classes, but you don't want to put down that you were a transfer.

Note the above comment only applies for real elite schools and recruiting processes. EG: Morgan/Goldman/McKinsey/Bain are likely going to ding you for a CC transfer unless you got some serious other stuff making up for it which is also doable, but not advised relative to a pure 4 year program.

[UrbanNerd]

(03-14-2013 10:06 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 09:54 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

About the community college route....

Community colleges are now better for you younger cats because they now are "1-for-1" with the first 2 years of 4-year universities. They were NOT like that when "oldheads" like myself were in college. There were WAY TOO MANY horror stories of community college grads who lost a bunch of credits when transferring to 4-year colleges because many community college were on their "own" semester/quarter agenda.

So to "be safe", many of us oldheads HAD to go directly to a 4-year college if we had goals of a bachelor's degree.

It's good that the community colleges have fixed this.

Yeah only issue is it is "frowned upon" you get a transfer stigma from the real elite universities. You can get away with maybe 3-4 classes, but you don't want to put down that you were a transfer.

Note the above comment only applies for real elite schools and recruiting processes. EG: Morgan/Goldman/McKinsey/Bain are likely going to ding you for a CC transfer unless you got some serious other stuff making up for it which is also doable, but not advised relative to a pure 4 year program.

YES....that whole "high finance/wall street" industry is a different beast since prestige is so much of a factor. I got a buddy with a NYU Stern MBA....and the other Ivy league grads STILL frown on him, LOL.

[WestCoast]

^^ ha yep. Those guys who frown down are all faggot losers though. "I have more rank than you"... Yeah okay bro thats why you play work game and get the highest person to love you and guess who gets booted come layoffs, the overpaid MBA. Thanks for the bonus though D-bags!

Oh one edit, not just Wall Street, but consulting and "major corps" like a Google etc won't like CC's.

So back to OP, use a couple CC's for credits to make your life easier and get cuter girls, but don't be doing 2 years if you want to maximize your chances at a sweet job.

[slothpiece]

I would think taking as many easier courses that will satisfy your elective courses requirements would be what I would do if I could go back. In DC, I have only had 1 or 2 interviewers out of hundreds ask what my gpa was. I laughed for the most part since nobody fucking cares what your gpa is. Nobody is asking that once you get past the first few years of having no prior experience on your resume. This isn't true when it comes to applying for grad schools. But if you had a great gpa from whatever college, you still have it vs. the guy who fucked off in college at a better school and thought taking harder classes was going to be deemed better than taking easier courses. Nobody gives a fucking shit.

I also went through intro phase of saying Hi to every girl I walked past after discovering the SoSuave forums when I was a sophomore. It was an exercise. Then I would read Doc Love and SoSuave and cut short conversations on cold approaches and ask for the number. I would then walk away. LoL. At the end of the semester, I had a bucket of numbers that went nowhere and called it the Jar-o-Sorrow. Friends mercilessly made fun of me for asking for numbers instead of going for bangs. Oh how I wish I knew then what I know now about the female brain and their impulsive behavior. So many potential bangs wasted for the pursuit of a folly belief from mainstream love consultants telling you to go for numbers.

[lavidaloca]

I think one thing many people need to take into consideration is that it is of the utmost importance to secure a top notch job in your field post-graduation. Otherwise, you are severely depleting your future earning potential. I know many law grads starting out at 40-60k while their peers are starting out in the 100's. Over a career the difference is drastic. No reason to handicap yourself. The reality is though to get the top jobs in your field be it accounting, medicine, law, dentistry, finance etc. grades are important. Get straight A's and do co-op if possible.

[pants]

If i could do it again, i would get a part time job aside from studying.

Get in a serious bet with a buddy. Every morning either one of us got up lather than 0800 in the weekdays, 100USD is transferred to the other guys account. life tastes so much better when i get up 0630. Its hard, but i feel much better the entire day.

I always had this thing for sleeping in, in the morning, never missed work, but missed a lot of classes.

Be pro active. Not learning anything from your lecture? Maybe there is a parallel lecture with much better quality.

[soup]

I don't care about this at all.

I'm banging more chicks now than ever before.

In America college can be a huge waste.

My advice to people who want to go to college:

Actually read the books in the syllabuses of the courses you are interested before you decide you want to drop money on a college education.

[horn]

(03-14-2013 12:10 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

There is not a millionaire man alive who wouldn't write you a check for everything to trade places with you.

You'll never be around more opportunities to have sex with attractive women.
Ever.
Do not forget that or miss out.

This is basically true. Other tips that I'm sure have been mentioned.

1) Never supplicate. Keep this in mind and you're immediately ahead of 80% of the competition. As the man said, 'Never apologize, never explain.'

2) Don't worry about money so much. You'll be making so much more in 10 years its not funny.

3) Don't buy drinks/never more than one drink for a girl you don't already know, or aren't incredibly sure will hook up with you later that nite.

4) Once you are in the friend zone, you have to move on. Leave her behind as a potential lay. In fact, the best way to get out of the FZ is to ignore her, focus on another woman, and start sleeping with someone else.

5) The hardest and most important thing to do is develop solid Inner Game. You don't have to chase, they chase you. You're the catch. You don't fake being someone you're not. You'll never get a 10 pretending to be George Clooney or Mark Zuckerberg or Lebron James.

[Samseau]

(03-14-2013 07:00 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 11:16 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 12:10 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

There is not a millionaire man alive who wouldn't write you a check for everything to trade places with you.

You'll never be around more opportunities to have sex with attractive women.

Ever.

Do not forget that or miss out.

I like the positive message, but I am not sure I agree.

College was great don't get me wrong, but life gets better in my experience.

Saying that college is the peak is like those guys who say high school was the peak.

It is only the peak if you don't constantly Improvise, Adapt and Overcome.

Life (overall) gets better. However access to hot women declines.

Go to ASU or SEC or Big 10 school.

What venues are you finding more attractive 18-22 year olds?

Look at a typical nightlife routine. You gotta do all sorts of shit to get warmed up for a night out. You have to remain flexible, bounce venues. You have to work.

In college, just walk to the quad. They are everywhere.

Access can be overrated. Even though I had much more access to girls in college, it's much easier for me to get laid now because I'm outgrowing the baby face and I have more cash + game.

In my experience, the kids who get to enjoy college the most are the ones who slightly mature in their teenage years, and have rich parents. They can fuck 20+ girls a semester, no problem.

[UrbanNerd]

As for me, my number of bangs in college were just barely average as I was not on a college sports team, not part of a fraternity and was not rich. Throw in my major (applied math/computer science) and I had less free time also.

It picked a little as a college senior but chicks knew I had a high-demand major and knew I would have a good job after college and tried to nab me early.

Right after college is when "business really picked up"....apartment in the burbs, new decent car, good entry-level job at age 22 and chicks ate that up.

[Fly Fisherman]

I like this thread.

I started college at 21, after backpacking and gaming my way up and down the East Coast for two years. I'll be 25 when I graduate in December. Not cocky, just confident, but I've absolutely killed it in my time here, and it's really not hard. Especially not compared to the real world. Keep a few things in mind, and "the best years of your life" (for now) can be yours. A few of these are fairly general, but valuable in college nonetheless. Here are some tips for the college player:

• Get good at beer pong. I'll probably catch flak for this, but the fact of the matter is that like it or not, pong skills get you laid. Your initial goal should be to make at least a 12-0 run every time you're on the table. Don't partner with random people unless the competition is absolute shit.
  

• If you're not in a fraternity, you will lose girls to frat boys purely because they're Greek. Don't let it bother you. These girls are idiots and aren't worth the time and effort to chase. And to be honest, despite what you might've heard, sorostitutes aren't always so amazing in bed. They don't sleep around nearly as much as Hollywood would have you think because they're too concerned for their reputations. Guess that comes with the stuck-up entitlement complex. Besides, there should be plenty more fish in the sea. If there aren't, well, you should've done a better job of scouting schools. Maybe go local.
  

• If you decide to rush a fraternity, research your options first. They're great for post-college job networking, but only if you pick the right one.
  

• Like with most women, travel is impressive to college girls. But don't ramble.
  

• Be prepared to deal with questions about your major and what you want to do with it. You will run into this cookie-cutter line of questioning from so many girls you’ll want to puke. Newsflash: this is a test. You're going to be rated and ranked, and you rarely get a retake. Fortunately, you can manufacture a cookie-cutter answer, which also helps establish consistency across girls (they do talk, y'know).
  

• Pay attention to accessories, no matter what your style. A nice watch makes a difference.
  

• Please, please, please, speak as though you have a brain. Saying "like" three times per sentence is not okay. Speaking like an adult sets you apart from every other meathead Girl X has talked to on a given night.
  

• Visit other colleges. Network there. Learn the types of females that attend different schools. For example, I'm from Virginia. VCU is full of hippies, hipsters and future "professional women." James Madison is the state capital for dumb blondes and has about a 40:60 guy:girl ratio. Virginia Tech is for sporty chicks and has a high percentage of brunettes (yum). Radford is full of STDs (not so much). In any case, girls will often bang guys from out of town because it’s a guaranteed no-strings deal.
  

• Get a car if at all possible. It helps with pretty much everything. Also, if you have options (buying your own, shopping with parents), bear in mind that there will always be someone with a nicer car than you. If feasible, save money (up to a point) for furnishing your pad, building savings, etc. "Nice enough" is the operative phrase here.
  

• With that said, a shitty car can be worse no car. You can make excuses for not having a whip (or even find a friend's to borrow), but a beater is like The Great Wall of Cockblock.
  

• Keep a stable of 2 or 3 unattractive girls who have hot friends. These are what we call gateway girls. Practice game on them if you want, but NEVER bang them, no matter how drunk you are.
  

• Go out on at least Friday and Saturday, every week, even if you're not typically a big partier. That's where the tail is, and that's where you should be. Period. I've been over the kegger scene for a couple years now (bars are more my game in this area), but I still hit up a house party on either Thursday, Friday or Saturday night. No days off.
  

• If you play a sport, find a team. Even if it's just intramurals. If you don't play a sport, hit the gym.
  

• This is not an endorsement, but a simple fact: as Nonpareil mentioned, if you decide to enter the business of…green vegetable distribution, you will meet more people, get invited to more parties and likely get laid more often. With that said, do NOT (cannot stress this enough) get involved with this if you don’t know what you're doing. Especially if you live on campus.
  

• Building off that, treat campus PD with respect, but don't take shit from them, either. They're typically betas who compensate through their work by going on a power trip 24/7. If you give them an inch, they’ll take a mile, but if you disrespect them, they'll clamp you down. Our local fuzz are some of the biggest dicks in blue that I've ever run into, and our campus police put them to shame. They're also lazy. A buddy of mine talked back one time, and the cop cuffed him and called in a drunk in public to the city police because he didn't want to deal with him. They came and threw the guy in a cell for the night. Don't think he ended up getting a charge, but nonetheless, not the way you want to spend your evening. The best way to manage these guys will obviously vary across campuses, but in general, just be firm.
  

• If there is one thing you should never cut corners with, it's your living space. My college requires freshmen and sophomores to live on campus, but I got an exemption for various reasons. Scooped a nice 2-bedroom apartment for freshman year with a good roommate and turned it into the chill spot. Had people rolling through every day, whether because I'd bought them booze, to pregame, watch sports or whatever. Again, this is a great way to network. If you can get a house, even better. Essential furnishings include multiple couches, at least one recliner, a mini fridge, game systems, a Netflix subscription and a minimum of one flat screen. My roommate worked at Best Buy, so I copped a 40" LCD and surround sound for a steal with his discount. HD projectors are the shit if you can afford them - we have both. Ask your family if they have spare furniture, and browse Craigslist.
  

• Also, add some sort of unique flair to your place. We stole a sign from each building on campus (and continue to do so, as they're currently building at a rate of about one a year) and threw them up around the crib. And do goofy shit that people like – we collected bottle caps and glued them to one of our coffee tables to make an American flag, then put plexiglass on top. A friend of ours built a Christmas tree out of Heineken bottles and ran lights through it. Contrary to what the movies tell you, you don't absolutely have to throw parties to be top dog (though it makes the climb easier), but you do need a fully-equipped base. The caveat here is if you choose to enter the veggie business, you don't want any more foot traffic than is absolutely necessary. But that opens up its own set of doors.
  

• Hold doors for women. My freshman roommate laughed when I said that this made a difference with the ladies. He stopped laughing when I got numbers by doing it. Remember, you're part of a generation with no class and weak game. College bitches are often just that, because they're young and immature. Getting noticed is the hard part, and the little things do that without making you look like a tryhard.
  

• Speaking of which, dress to impress, but don't overdo it. You’re walking a line here, and the nature of that line depends on the trends at your school. You don't want trendy. You want style. Style is timeless. I'm sure there are threads around this forum to get you started. You want to be a cut above and a tribe apart, but not to the point where you're too off-the-wall.
  

• To that end, sport jackets are your friend. Trust me. I've thrown a sport jacket over a solid-color t-shirt before (I was DD that night and feeling lazy), and a female DD struck up a conversation with me by complimenting it.
  

• With that said, don't feel the need to drop thousands on your wardrobe. If you can afford it, by all means go ahead, but make your home base a priority. You can very cheaply pick up clothes that will outshine that average guy with a shaved head rocking an Affliction t-shirt. I'm a big believer in progressively upgrading my lifestyle components. Resist the temptation to jump beyond your bankroll.
  

• Get a job. As in almost all areas of life, cash is king. Start saving ASAP.
  

• Don’t be that guy who doesn't say anything in class. Yeah, I know you don’t want to be there. None of us do. But this is valuable time to network and spit game. Always sit near the attractive females. Drop knowledge when the opportunity arises, particularly if you can use an impressive example from your life. But don't show off either. No one likes that guy.
  

Anyway, that's what I got. Figured this could be a helpful post to follow up my intro. If this sounds like high school advice, well, all I can say is enjoy round two (to a degree). Just remember, at the end of the day...

[GenJx]

(04-02-2013 01:57 PM)Fly Fisherman Wrote:  

a lot of dimes on that video!

[DBCooper]

Like a couple other guys before me have said, if you know what you're doing get distributing a certain plant.

As cliched as it sounds, girls love that rebelliousness and small amount of danger (it is safer in some places than it is in others - from both a criminal and personal standpoint). They're particularly responsive to it around college age as they're 'breaking out of their shell', 'experimenting' and 'growing as a person' - all bullshit woman speak.

Guys on here see how easy it can be to manipulate the female college brain, and the right amount of notoriety (the good kind) is perfect for that purpose.

[Fly Fisherman]

(04-03-2013 07:16 AM)DBCooper Wrote:  

As cliched as it sounds, girls love that rebelliousness and small amount of danger (it is safer in some places than it is in others - from both a criminal and personal standpoint). They're particularly responsive to it around college age as they're 'breaking out of their shell', 'experimenting' and 'growing as a person' - all bullshit woman speak.

This is very true, and women will fill in a lot of the blanks themselves if you just send the right cues. I see some guys go for the "I don't give a fuck" approach, but that can end up portraying you as a slacker, or as a tryhard if you're too loud about it. Balance is key (in all areas of life). I've found the more effective vibe to be "I've got my shit together and I know it, so therefore I don't need to give a fuck." If you exude that aura, women will notice. There are of course other approaches.

A few more tips that came to mind:

• Buy a Zippo. I got compliments on mine at the first party I went to freshman year, before classes had even started. And don't get one with some crazy design on it. If you want something personalized, buy one in plain steel or gunmetal and spend the few bucks to get it engraved with your initials (or whatever you like). If you have the extra scratch, Colibri has a huge range of lighters that will set you apart.
  

• If you can't grow facial hair, that's okay. Sporting a pedo mustache or a patchy excuse for a beard is not okay.
  

• Sorry for the wall of text, but this one is hugely important. When you move into a place off-campus, take the time to inspect it thoroughly. If you feel the need to get it checked out for a particular issue, have the rental agency call the appropriate contractor. These organizations will often take advantage of college kids because they expect us to simply sign on the line and move in, and once you do it's sometimes too late. I went through this sophomore year. We had rented a condo, and the new place had mold in the walls (I am extremely allergic). I asked the agency to either pay to have it taken care of or relocate us, and they refused. I was foolish and didn't push the issue at the time. I ended up getting bronchitis, which developed into pneumonia, and had to go stay with a friend while recovering. I called my lawyer, and we decided to escrow my rent checks until the issue was fixed, as well as threaten direct legal action against the rental agency. We were set up with a new condo within three days, and they agreed to pay for my medical bills without going to court. The flip side to these organizations' sneaky practices is that they are often taken aback when you actually make a stand.
  

• Also, get renter's insurance if at all possible. And flood insurance if you live in an area where that's a risk. Ask your parents to check with their insurance company and find out whether they can purchase it for you. Even if they're hardasses and want you to reimburse them, the policy will be cheaper if it's in their name.
  

[lurker]

Do not sell weed to meet people and be surrounded by girls. That's the easiest way to get caught. If you do sell weed:

a) only to people you know
b) off campus
c) for money, not notoriety. Be clear on the purpose.

The easiest way to sell weed on college campuses is to join a fraternity. Frats basically exist for the purposes of narcotics distribution.

[lurker]

Oh. And if I knew in college what I know now? I'd squat more.

[globalunderground]

If you're at predominately liberal arts school...this is the only time in your life when the ratios are in your favor.

Also, don't skip class (they do notice this and it can make the difference between C+ or B-), limit your hard partying to weekends and the occasional Thursday night.

[globalunderground]

(03-14-2013 09:54 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

About the community college route....

Community colleges are now better for you younger cats because they now are "1-for-1" with the first 2 years of 4-year universities.

It can make it harder to establish a social network (pun not intended) if you come in as a transfer student. The cliques are often formed halfway through first semester of freshman year.

[Fly Fisherman]

(04-04-2013 10:07 PM)lurker Wrote:  

Do not sell weed to meet people and be surrounded by girls. That's the easiest way to get caught. If you do sell weed:

a) only to people you know
b) off campus
c) for money, not notoriety. Be clear on the purpose.

The easiest way to sell weed on college campuses is to join a fraternity. Frats basically exist for the purposes of narcotics distribution.

Yeah, I realized I probably gave the wrong idea there. I'm not at all saying to do it for those reasons, just that those things do happen. I would hope that all this falls into the category of knowing what you're doing.

[brownman]

Excellent advice in this thread, having applied many of the strategies, just my two cents. Note this is based on my experience at a state school; though many general principles apply, at elite schools and small colleges the finer points would differ due to smaller student populations.

Game: Read Bang and Day Bang, anything more is counter productive. Have a girl on the side. Keep If Simple Stupid. Dress well.

Work: Begin networking freshman year. Pose as a sophomore finishing in three years. Pipeline contacts and visit them in cities if you can afford it. Line up internships through your network. Going cold is wasteful.

Health: Eat healthy, work out regularly and keep your sleep cycle in check. Have fun in moderation and limit time sinks like TV, video games and movies. Avoid porn and channel that energy into constructive activities. Use the campus therapist to work on any issues you have.

Grades: Keep the GPA above a 3.3 / 4.0 (80th percentile). Talk to professors, form study groups and study in the library. Befriend the smart kids.

Freshman year: Cold approach, scope every party and befriend everyone. Learn to arbitrage freshman pussy for party hookups. Keep the cream for yourself. Liquor run as a side hustle. Build a network through different communities: Fraternities, Intramural Sports, Dance Associations, Outdoor Clubs, Professional Organizations, Campus Government and International Students.

Sophomore year: Get a nice bachelor pad and car. Distribute via your network for cash flow. Consider becoming a DJ or bartender at parties. Scope out other schools.

Junior year: Study abroad and scout the local talent. Pipeline before in town and leverage yourself for the final internship. You should have a solid crew by now for bars.

Senior year: If you've played your cards right. You'll barely have to do anything and can ideally focus your efforts on building a side business at this point.