[Blaster]

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Don't see how you can ignore the crime, it a part of the country.

I'm not saying you can ignore it, I'm saying it's stupid to talk about crime rate in "the USA" in a compare/contrast of countries without also considering demographics and geography, especially when people are talking about nightmare Deliverance scenarios that don't actually happen in real life (except where man bites dog or pigs fly).

The US has 313 million people. A random selection of European countries that add up to about 313 million: Germany, France, Italy, Ukraine, Poland, Bosnia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Canada is about 34 million, for reference. California alone: 38 million. There's a lot of diversity and de facto segretation in the US and if you want to talk crime you have to consider those factors.

[Screwston]

Lol at people acting like America,is such a scary and dangerous place. I dont know people are traveling to 3rd world shitholes if theyre scared of things here. Are you chilling with gang members and walking around hoods when you come to visit rudebwoy?

[Lemmo]

(03-06-2013 06:00 PM)houston Wrote:  

Lol at people acting like America,is such a scary and dangerous place. I dont know people are traveling to 3rd world shitholes if theyre scared of things here. Are you chilling with gang members and walking around hoods when you come to visit rudebwoy?

Yeah, it was the same thing in the healthcare thread. A lot of foreigners, especially Europeans, want to reach an anti-American conclusion so they just run with whatever negative things they might have heard in the media without having any 1st or even 2nd hand experience. If people were talking about actually coming to the US and being victims of crimes, I could take it seriously. They don't appreciate how concentrated crime is in a few areas of the US.

And in a country as shitty as the US it is easy to come up with legit reasons to slam it - no need for people to pretend it is dangerous.

[Greek kamaki]

The downside of America is that it is rather conservative by European standards.They did it not to insult the minorities some of whom come from very conservative backgrounds.In Europe noone gives a damn what the minorities might think.There are also some religious zealots in America of the kind you will never find in Europe.Also no politicians refer to religion except in south Mediterranean countries.

Other differences:
1.In America a politician has to look good and be photogenic.In Europe this is not a prerequisite since the emphasis is more based on person's value and not on external appearance.A person like Merkel would never have made it to America.On the other hand aesthetics can have positive effect.
2.Substandard quality.In Europe they do not allow so prices are rather high comparatively.

3.Shop open hours.In western Europe all shops close early in evening.In USA they may stay open all night.
4.Prices.Americans are rather aggressive with prices.In Europe every product has a normal price and prices seldom variate from shop to shop.

5.Customer service.In many cases non existent in Europe.In America they make you feel like a king once you enter the shop.
6.Oil.Rather cheap in America because they do not have high VAT on it.So cars are a lot more than in Europe and this boosts the economy (how can you shop if you ride the bus?)
7.Malls arrangement.Excellent in America they use lights and effects scientifically to create good mood and psychology to buy.In Europe they use standard monotonous style with not many variations.Generally no optical effects.

8.Tip.In USA it seemed you had to tip for everything.In many European countries the tip is included in the price you do not have to pay extra even for taxi.
9.Hierarchy.A lot less in the USA.It is rather obvious.Lots of young people in every sector.In Europe they always prefer seniors who are considered more wise and experienced.

10.Working hours.Americans obviously work longer hours (they must be paid by the hour) but they do not have the high concentration and tension of Germans while at work.
11.Size.Americans like big size.Even toilets are much bigger in America as are elevators, cars etc.Even dishes, steaks are bigger, houses are bigger, roads are bigger I cannot think of a single thing that is smaller there.Of course having plenty of space helps.

12.Racism.Americans have much less racism.There is not this constant tension one has here.A lot of things we take for granted are not taken for granted in America. Generally they seem to try to get along with lots of different cultures and avoid the clashes and edges.This has a watering down effect in some cases (graphic Greeks who express only what is allowed) but generally it promotes economy.

[Aliblahba]

(03-06-2013 04:21 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I had friend's years ago that were driving back from Florida and stopped in a restaurant in Georgia, they were not served and decided to get mouthy. They were greeted with shotguns and got the hell out of there, never to return.

That's called southern hospitality. You're welcome.

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I think a lot of people live in lilywhite suburbs and aren't painting the whole picture.

Most of us in lilywhite suburbs are armed and don't pay much mind to crime to comment. Besides, when we shoot a home invader, it doesn't make the news.

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I will say you can make money there, where as in Europe people seem to be born into a class and it is very hard to break out of that class.

My beautician is Portuguese, and was born in the lowest class. She would have gotten nowhere, and will fight if someone badmouths America without good reason. Her life is exponentially better here than there, and I welcome her with open arms.

If Europe is so advanced, why still have this system?

[Screwston]

(03-06-2013 06:38 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 06:00 PM)houston Wrote:  

Lol at people acting like America,is such a scary and dangerous place. I dont know people are traveling to 3rd world shitholes if theyre scared of things here. Are you chilling with gang members and walking around hoods when you come to visit rudebwoy?

Yeah, it was the same thing in the healthcare thread. A lot of foreigners, especially Europeans, want to reach an anti-American conclusion so they just run with whatever negative things they might have heard in the media without having any 1st or even 2nd hand experience. If people were talking about actually coming to the US and being victims of crimes, I could take it seriously. They don't appreciate how concentrated crime is in a few areas of the US.

And in a country as shitty as the US it is easy to come up with legit reasons to slam it - no need for people to pretend it is dangerous.

Rudebwoy is cool but I don't get why he's saying all those things. The only times I've ever felt unsafe were when I was messing with the wrong people. You're probably gonna be safe if you mind your own business and not associating with low lifes. It's like me saying I've seen reports of skinheads in Russia killing people so Europe is dangerous and crazy.

[rudebwoy]

(03-06-2013 09:00 PM)houston Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 06:38 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 06:00 PM)houston Wrote:  

Lol at people acting like America,is such a scary and dangerous place. I dont know people are traveling to 3rd world shitholes if theyre scared of things here. Are you chilling with gang members and walking around hoods when you come to visit rudebwoy?

Yeah, it was the same thing in the healthcare thread. A lot of foreigners, especially Europeans, want to reach an anti-American conclusion so they just run with whatever negative things they might have heard in the media without having any 1st or even 2nd hand experience. If people were talking about actually coming to the US and being victims of crimes, I could take it seriously. They don't appreciate how concentrated crime is in a few areas of the US.

And in a country as shitty as the US it is easy to come up with legit reasons to slam it - no need for people to pretend it is dangerous.

Rudebwoy is cool but I don't get why he's saying all those things. The only times I've ever felt unsafe were when I was messing with the wrong people. You're probably gonna be safe if you mind your own business and not associating with low lifes. It's like me saying I've seen reports of skinheads in Russia killing people so Europe is dangerous and crazy.

I guess I am reading too much into stats, which I shouldn't because I can't stand when people use stats to justify an argument.
I have family that live in a hood, to be honest I get a rush out of strolling through there.
Again, America is a good country and dreams can be made there.

[Screwston]

I'm also guessing America is a different beast than safe ol Canada, especially Toronto.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-05-2013 05:28 PM)Kentucky Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 04:36 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

I think the violence is over hyped. It is very very rare that I feel uncomfortable anywhere in the US. of course there are hoods you need to stay out of, but that's true in Europe as well. A good friend of mine just got robbed in Brussels a couple months ago and has never had anything happen to her in the states. I know we have more crime, but it's not like it's a big issue. The average person in the states doesn't get robbed or shot. I know very few people who have been robbed in the US, if any. The whole "tie me to a pickup truck and drive down some country lane" thing is completely extreme. Probably something that has happened one time. I can find some extremely fucked up shit that has happened in Europe as well.

In regards to people not mixing with different races and backgrounds in the states, if you went on my facebook right now you would see me hanging with black people, white people, latin people, asian people. There are many white people like me that will mix in the US. Maybe it's not as common in the US as UK, but for example, growing up I had latino friends but very few black friends, only because a mere 10-15 black kids went to my school, and most of their friends were white kids. I hung out with a couple of them, and for the others, the reason I didn't hang out with them had nothing to do with them being black and everything to do with us not having the same interests or personalities.

We do have unemployment benefits in the states, though we don't receive close to the pay that you would receive in Switzerland. My girl is jobless right now in Switzerland and makes $4500 a month. That shit's crazy! Them doctors are paying her to stay at home and make big bucks. You think that encourages her to get a job? When she's making $4500 a month?! Hell no it's not! Why get a job when you make just as much sitting at home?

I've been to over twenty states in the US. The poor parts of the South were scarier than anywhere I've worked in Africa. People genuinely seem to have more hatred. The gun issue makes it extra threatening

As an example of segregation in prisons in the USA, blacks and whites don't mix and there are rules on conduct. In prison in France, the UK, etc this would be unthinkable

You have been to prison in three different countries?

[Screwston]

Yeah, I don't get why prison politics even got brought up . That's a completely different society with their own rules. Kentucky is really reaching with that. I don't know anything about French prisons but this movie shows everyone split up

[Tex Pro]

The thing I hate about America is the women. They are a bunch of slovenly-dressed, loudmouthed, overweight, over-entitled bitches. For that reason alone, America is NOT the greatest country in the world. No way is it the greatest country in the world when half the population (the female half) is a bunch of worthless cunts.

[rudebwoy]

(03-06-2013 09:51 PM)houston Wrote:  

I'm also guessing America is a different beast than safe ol Canada, especially Toronto.

Canada is very safe, you can pretty much sleep with your front door unlocked. I rarely see fights, only once in awhile in a bar at the end of the night between two drunken fools.
I tend to walk around with a pissed off look on my face and that seems to keep people at bay.

[Samseau]

(03-06-2013 10:07 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

The thing I hate about America is the women. They are a bunch of slovenly-dressed, loudmouthed, overweight, over-entitled bitches. For that reason alone, America is NOT the greatest country in the world. No way is it the greatest country in the world when half the population (the female half) is a bunch of worthless cunts.

Seriously. If American women weren't so shitty, this would be the greatest country on the earth hands down.

[InternationPlayboy]

(06-02-2013 02:33 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 10:07 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

The thing I hate about America is the women. They are a bunch of slovenly-dressed, loudmouthed, overweight, over-entitled bitches. For that reason alone, America is NOT the greatest country in the world. No way is it the greatest country in the world when half the population (the female half) is a bunch of worthless cunts.

Seriously. If American women weren't so shitty, this would be the greatest country on the earth hands down.

Yeah, imagine if you swapped American girls for Colombian and Brazilian girls and put them in the US. Life would be great here.

[worldwidetraveler]

(06-02-2013 10:25 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

Yeah, imagine if you swapped American girls for Colombian and Brazilian girls and put them in the US. Life would be great here.

Judging from some of the posts about Miami, I don't think swapping South American women would alleviate the problems.

I think it is more of a cultural issue.

[InternationPlayboy]

(06-02-2013 11:36 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 10:25 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

Yeah, imagine if you swapped American girls for Colombian and Brazilian girls and put them in the US. Life would be great here.

Judging from some of the posts about Miami, I don't think swapping South American women would alleviate the problems.

I think it is more of a cultural issue.

Even though the women in Miami are tough, it's really the competition that gets you I think. Women can be bitches there, but you have to look at the culture in Miami. Girls are getting hollered at more than in any other city I've been to in the states by far.

But beside that point, I think you're right, it does have to do with the culture. I'll say it like this then, "Wouldn't it be great if we swapped all the girls in Brazil and Colombia with American girls and they still acted like girls from Brazil and Colombia?"

[WanderingSoul]

Some of you guys really think a poor rural farmhand from China has the same chance to become rich as a poor rural farmhand in the Midwest?

Where's that nigga please .gif at again....

[Atilla]

It’s so typically American to brag about how easy it is to start a business here and how easy it is for a poor person to get rich.

54 percent of Americans between the ages of 18 and 29 believe they will get rich. These are the dreamers telling you America has it all. People here are in such denial that we even have guys on this thread talking about how great it is to be an American because we have such an easy time making bank, while on the "What is your net worth?" thread, these same people have stated that they’re completely broke!

Americans need to stop dreaming and come to the realization that we’re not all rich. The median personal income for an American male over 25 is $39,403. That’s before taxes.

About half of Americans are either living paycheck to paycheck or are underwater, though some surveys show even higher figures. It’s much better to live paycheck to paycheck or even to be unemployed in Europe than it is in the US on account of women, culture, better safety net, and protection of healthcare benefits.

I’m currently making a decent income, but it’s only because my company’s CEO is one of the very few in this country who is philosophically opposed to treating employees like dirt.

If you’re part of the ~6% of Americans making $100k+ gross income, or at the very least making $75,000+ income (about 15%-18%), then sure, America is the greatest country in the world for you. If you’re not making that kind of money, stop talking like you are. You're not outshining other first-worlders and you probably never will.

[InternationPlayboy]

(06-03-2013 01:35 AM)Atilla Wrote:  

Americans need to stop dreaming and come to the realization that we’re not all rich. The median personal income for an American male over 25 is $39,403. That’s before taxes.

Yeah, and the median world income is around $10k, so it doesn't look like we are doing so bad. Not to mention our GDP per capita is one of the highest in the world and the countries above us have very small populations. You don't see any of the worlds major players with a population over 20 mil. But by the way, you're statistics are wrong. 49k a year is the average income..... https://www.cia.gov/library/publications...rank=15#us

[Atilla]

(06-03-2013 02:31 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

Yeah, and the median world income is around $10k, so it doesn't look like we are doing so bad.

America is way better than an undeveloped country, I completely agree. I’m only comparing the US to other developed nations because these are the countries being compared on this thread.

(06-03-2013 02:31 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

But by the way, you're statistics are wrong. 49k a year is the average income.....

I used the median income, not the average. The average income is far higher than the median because of the growing income inequality in the US. If you’re making $49k in the US, you’re making more than 74% of Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_in...ted_States

Not only that, but I only gave the median personal income for males over 25. The actual median income is $32,140.

[InternationPlayboy]

(06-03-2013 02:54 AM)Atilla Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 02:31 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

Yeah, and the median world income is around $10k, so it doesn't look like we are doing so bad.

America is way better than an undeveloped country, I completely agree. I’m only comparing the US to other developed nations because these are the countries being compared on this thread.

(06-03-2013 02:31 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

But by the way, you're statistics are wrong. 49k a year is the average income.....

I used the median income, not the average. The average income is far higher than the median because of the growing income inequality in the US. If you’re making $49k in the US, you’re making more than 74% of Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_in...ted_States

Not only that, but I only gave the median personal income for males over 25. The actual median income is $32,140.

Ok touche

[WanderingSoul]

Can you quote where Americans said it is easy to become rich here?

[InternationPlayboy]

(06-03-2013 03:07 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Can you quote where Americans said it is easy to become rich here?

Good point. I don't think many people think it's easy to get rich no matter how you are trying to get rich. Whether it's go through 6-8 years of school or start a business from the ground up. I'm pretty sure most people who want to do this are well aware that there is a lot of hard work and many sacrifices to be made to make a lot of money.

[Atilla]

(06-03-2013 03:07 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Can you quote where Americans said it is easy to become rich here?

I was actually going to edit the wording on that but then decided to risk getting called out on it haha.

Regardless, most of the pro-American and anti-European comments you hear give the impression from all the capitalism and freedom of business talk that Americans can just work hard and magically end up better off than Europeans. It’s a fantasy that implies that the masses who are barely getting by are all just lazy. Hard work alone will not get you rich in the US because you’ll also need luck, especially to get to the top percentiles in income that make it much more advantageous to live in the US.

[InternationPlayboy]

(06-03-2013 03:41 AM)Atilla Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 03:07 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Can you quote where Americans said it is easy to become rich here?

I was actually going to edit the wording on that but then decided to risk getting called out on it haha.

Regardless, most of the pro-American and anti-European comments you hear give the impression from all the capitalism and freedom of business talk that Americans can just work hard and magically end up better off than Europeans. It’s a fantasy that implies that the masses who are barely getting by are all just lazy. Hard work alone will not get you rich in the US because you’ll also need luck, especially to get to the top percentiles in income that make it much more advantageous to live in the US.

Yeah, but on top of having a good quality of life, America is straight up fun. People know how to have a good time. Every single person I've talked to that has lived in Zurich that was born outside of Switzerland for example, has told me it's boring as shit. They say it's great for making money but that's about all. The only person I've spoken to that spoke highly of Zurich was a guy who grew up there. He's literally the only person I've really heard praise Switzerland for being a fun place. When I meet Swiss people, they are typically boring as fuck. They don't know how to have a good conversation and it also seems they don't really want to talk with people they don't know (and other people I know who've lived there have also confirmed this).