I've had quite a few guys tell me Romania can be quite tough. I'm hearings things from all over the spectrum.
Roosh
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Quote: (02-28-2013 07:53 PM)Mersault Wrote:
Quote: (02-28-2013 07:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Quote: (02-28-2013 07:36 PM)Mersault Wrote:
Romanian girls, as any European will probably know, are recognised as the easiest in Europe.
Didn't know that.
Is that the indisputable truth?
Like, if you asked anyone on the street, "What are the easiest girls in Europe?"
People will respond, "Without question, Romanian girls."
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Indisputable truth? Well, that's an epistemological conundrum. When it comes to such normative statements, i think we might agree there are no absolute indisputable truths. Let me put it this way...
a European businessman has money and a reputation to consider.
If he marries an Italian he gains in credibility.
If he marries a French girl he gains in credibility.
The same for Sweden, Norway and, perhaps, Denmark. Finland, not really.
If he marries a Bulgarian it's because he didn't have enough game, money or credibility to 'get' an Italian, French, Scandinavian and didn't have enough confidence to get a Romanian. Moldovan's are even lower.
Sure, these are weak social strata i am describing here, but the perceptions run through a typical European mind. A Spanish construction worker who marries a Romanian is seen as having 'bought' her because she is easy. And that is a low Spaniard, and a Spaniard is a lower European in the standards (compared to Italian, German, Scandinavian, French, British etc).
Hmm. This is cultural actuality without the required deconstruction to prove it or convince you that it is anything more than a theory. Perhaps another time i will think this out and make it clear, but, right now, i maintain what i said. Romanian girls are considered easy, the easiest in Europe, and any man with one is seen as having bought her, regardless of how hot she is. Now, sure, that also applies to Russians and Poles, and so on, but with Romanians, it is seen as a little cheaper.
Is it fair, or even prudent? Probably not. But it is a type of meme that runs through a western European individuals mind.
Quote: (02-28-2013 12:36 PM)Alexander Wrote:
Quote: (02-28-2013 11:21 AM)gadabout Wrote:
5/6am - Same as everywhere in Europe. Romania has one of the highest concentration of smokers in EE and that's saying something. Only UK and parts of western europe you cannot smoke in bars.
What are you talking about?
You cannot smoke in many countries in Northern, Southern, Central, Eastern Europe
Quote: (02-28-2013 06:41 PM)Alexander Wrote:
This forum really is a giggle, last month saw Ukraine rise from the ashes to once again be considered a pussy paradise after Roosh discovered he should have been in the capital all this time. Now we have a new player on the block....Romania, there has been little talk of Romania on here, but now all of a sudden we have people declaring Romanian girls as the hottest on Earth.
Oh, my review of westerncancer's picks
Pic 1. Would bang the girl on the left, but not the other two.
2. Really hard to tell from the photo, I think she has very bad skin
3. No
4. Would bang the blonde on the right, but she's just a 7 with good teeth.
5. Looks like a fucking whore - ok probably.
6. Wouldn't bang potato face, but the boobs look decent.
7. A milf in good shape, she kind of looks like a Romanian/Philipino cross.
Quote: (02-28-2013 08:00 PM)Roosh Wrote:
I've had quite a few guys tell me Romania can be quite tough. I'm hearings things from all over the spectrum.
Quote: (02-28-2013 09:06 PM)rastignac Wrote:
Quote: (02-28-2013 12:36 PM)Alexander Wrote:
Quote: (02-28-2013 11:21 AM)gadabout Wrote:
5/6am - Same as everywhere in Europe. Romania has one of the highest concentration of smokers in EE and that's saying something. Only UK and parts of western europe you cannot smoke in bars.
What are you talking about?
You cannot smoke in many countries in Northern, Southern, Central, Eastern Europe
Illegal to smoke in restaurants in Ukraine now.
Quote: (02-28-2013 09:14 PM)rastignac Wrote:
Quote: (02-28-2013 08:00 PM)Roosh Wrote:
I've had quite a few guys tell me Romania can be quite tough. I'm hearings things from all over the spectrum.
If you know one Romance language it just another one. Just knowing French I understand a lot.
Quote: (02-28-2013 09:00 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
This "ranking by ease of country" seems solely based on economics, no?
Quote: (02-28-2013 08:00 PM)Roosh Wrote:
I've had quite a few guys tell me Romania can be quite tough. I'm hearings things from all over the spectrum.
Quote: (02-28-2013 10:00 PM)Mersault Wrote:
Quote: (02-28-2013 09:00 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
This "ranking by ease of country" seems solely based on economics, no?
I guess that forms a part, if not even the greater part of it. However, it isn't as simple as that. It is a blend of economics, national history, reputation, skin colour (in some cases olive is good, in others it is bad) etc etc.
It has much to do with other things too, like scarcity, tendency. For want of a kinder term, it amounts to no less than an EU respectability league table. To complicate matters, it is, to a degree, relative to each country.
If it were just about economics, well, let me share an example. A German woman will almost always be richer than a Greek woman, but because of a number of things, for a guy (western Eurpean, middle class minimum), there is more prestige associated to be with a hot middle class Greek girl than an 'equivalent' German. These 'things' that make it so, in the European mindset, are connected with antiquity as much as current day reality. The guy will gain value by being with the Greek girl whilst gain very little, if anything, by being with the German one.
At the other end of this, unfortunately and unfairly, are Romanians. I must stress that it isn't fair. I don't want any Romanians on this forum being angry with me because I am completely aware that what I am saying is altogether unkind. Reality and kindness, however, are not always bedfellows. It is a fine country that has been on the wrong side of dictators, ideology and migration. These things, over time, have moved Romania down the rankings. You might be a standard middle class French businessman who marries an upper middle class beautiful 9/10 Romanian woman. She might have been a virgin (who wasn't?), a humanities graduate and fluent in six languages. Were you ever to parade her around she would catch everybody and anybody's eye, with enough grace to make Anouk Aimee appear uncouth and autistic. The epitome of wonder. Regardless, people would still see it as her marrying up and the Frenchman having in some way 'bought' her. That isn't simply economics. That is a consequence of a million things that might best, although still insufficiently, be described as a meme.
If only one person were to think this, you might say it is individual prejudice. That wouldn't be the case. I am of the opinion anybody he ever encountered, be they French, Spanish, Italian, German, British, Swedish, whatever, all of them would always think she had been bought. Romanians are known as the easiest. Separating the myth from the reality isn't an easy task. The idea pervades at deep levels. For example, there is a newspaper in England considered the voice of the liberal middle class. The Guardian. Sure, it is sensationalist and full of shit, just like the rest, however, it feeds the minds of those considered the most freethinking in England. Last month it ran a headline, or a sub-headline, about the possibility of half a million Romanian and Bulgarian migrants coming to the UK to work. The tone of the article was that the Romanians would be happy doing the menial tasks here that other groups, like the native British, would not. Furthermore, there was insinuation, perhaps not in the main article (perhaps on a 'comment is free' piece), that the other nationalities in the UK, who had, by enlarge, migrated several years earlier – like the Polish – were now slowly assimilating themselves into the slightly higher parts of the economic food chain that just a few years earlier were too far beyond them. Without really intending to, yet through thoroughly sensible outward logic, the article generates the idea that out of the mentioned nationalities the British were the highest, the Polish next and then the Romanians and Bulgarians. If a liberal, appealing to academic type, newspaper is alluding to this, you might just imagine what type of stuff is aimed at the minds of the other papers..... this happens across Europe. In Italy, if you want to win 40/50% of the electorate, just insinuate that the problem is Tunisian, Albanian and Romanian migrants. About the half country will agree with you. The pervading idea here is that Romanians are beneath the rest. Romanians, consequently, feel that wherever they go. They have (excuse the general pronoun) developed an inferiority complex from this. As a western European, or American, approaching Romanian girls you will find they are almost always (why speak in absolutes?) going to be open to you. Don't play it wrong and they are yours. It is like 2nd tier Poland, only even a little easier. Ok, let me rephrase. Nothing is 'easy'. This isn't sambah saravah and the girl falls in love. Life isn't like that and well, even Bazarov couldn't close, but, in terms of approaching, and having the opportunity to approach a plethora, of 7's and 8's and having a good chance of success, i really can't think of anywhere easier for some types of western Europeans.
Multiply such small things here and there (like the newspaper story or the Italian political discourse) by a million, working at a deep rooted institutional level, and apply them to each nation and to each nationality in Europe. You know, small anecdotes here and there that make newspaper cuttings, soap opera sub plots and received wisdom (young English girl coerced into marriage by Greek hotel owner vs young English girl charmed off her feet by Italian lover in an English paper vs young Polish girl danced off her feet by Spanish charmer in Granada vs young Polish girl takes the secure safe life offered by English middle management worker) and then extrapolate all these things way above and beyond, and you end up, by the age of early consciousness, forming a type of ranking of who is who, and which is which, by nationality.
And, believe me, however unfair it is, in the western European mind, the Romanian is at the lowest end. Belarus, so infrequently does somebody encounter a woman from there, despite everything that suggests desperation, has a slight slight semblance of exotic appeal. Even Bulgarians are somehow elevated above, in some sense, by the idea of their Orthodox Church. Romanians are seen as the easiest and considered the lowest. They are open to foreigners, very open in fact, and they are very submissive.
Quote: (03-01-2013 04:44 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
Word of the mouth here in Greece is that the easiest girls in Romania are the Hungarian ones living in cities like Cluj Napoca.Generally former Transylvania has been historically part of Hungary.
Another warning regards the high syphilis and other STDs rates in Costanza which is a dirty harbour in the Black sea.Almost all Greeks there got STDs but the women are easy indeed.
Cities like Brasov have also good reputation as do the ones close to Moldovan borders like Iasi.Actually this is the region of western Moldova which belongs to Romania.In case Romania fails one can always enter Moldova where girls are considered to be the easiest compared to any other territory and 3 times poorer than the Romanians.
Quote: (03-01-2013 08:01 AM)Innuendo Wrote:
Also be careful because some of the bars there have started to employ fake customers (hot girls just standing around at tables next to the entry)
- Best clubs are in the north part of Bucharest but that means poor logistics. Try clubs Player on wednesdays and Gaia on thursdays.
Quote: (03-01-2013 08:44 AM)Marco Wrote:
Quote: (03-01-2013 08:01 AM)Innuendo Wrote:
Also be careful because some of the bars there have started to employ fake customers (hot girls just standing around at tables next to the entry)
- Best clubs are in the north part of Bucharest but that means poor logistics. Try clubs Player on wednesdays and Gaia on thursdays.
I've encountered the fake hot chicks customers but this is not so bad. One from the A-Club even told me that she works for the club. She was hot blond with big tits, maybe 8.5-9 and for a couple of Tequila shots (less that 1 Euro each...) we danced-fucked. Then I asked her what do you I need to get her a French kiss- "A pack of cigarettes"...
I did not enjoy much the clubs in the north went to BOA and Chaboo (or was it Taboo?), those are upper class usually with shows, tables etc. people come to show themselves rather than have fun.
Quote: (03-01-2013 08:01 AM)Innuendo Wrote:
Hey, I'm Romanian so I can answer pretty much all questions.
Currently traveling in the Philippines so I don't have time to write too much but I can answer any questions.
- You can smoke in clubs and bars, not in some restaurants
- English is widely spoken by the <30 years old population
- The language has nothing to do with russian, it's similar to italian/spanish/french in the sense that although I don't know these languages when I hear them being spoken I can pretty much figure out what they are talking about.
- The old town of Bucharest was a goldmine a few years ago but now it's pretty overrun with foreigners and very crowded during the weekends. You can still find more then enough girls but I think it's getting tougher for foreigners because of all the italian/french/etc stag parties. Also be careful because some of the bars there have started to employ fake customers (hot girls just standing around at tables next to the entry)
- American culture has been gaining a lot here in the last few years, I can already see girls not being as feminine as in the past, acting the way they see in american movies etc
- Best clubs are in the north part of Bucharest but that means poor logistics. Try clubs Player on wednesdays and Gaia on thursdays.
- One night stands are rare but 2-3 dates and you should get the notch
- Cluj, Iasi, Timisoara are good second tier cities with big universities
Can't think of anything else right now but I'll answer questions.