[Hooligan Harry]

(02-28-2013 07:53 PM)Mersault Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 07:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 07:36 PM)Mersault Wrote:  

Romanian girls, as any European will probably know, are recognised as the easiest in Europe.

Didn't know that.

Is that the indisputable truth?

Like, if you asked anyone on the street, "What are the easiest girls in Europe?"

People will respond, "Without question, Romanian girls."

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Indisputable truth? Well, that's an epistemological conundrum. When it comes to such normative statements, i think we might agree there are no absolute indisputable truths. Let me put it this way...

a European businessman has money and a reputation to consider.
If he marries an Italian he gains in credibility.
If he marries a French girl he gains in credibility.
The same for Sweden, Norway and, perhaps, Denmark. Finland, not really.
If he marries a Bulgarian it's because he didn't have enough game, money or credibility to 'get' an Italian, French, Scandinavian and didn't have enough confidence to get a Romanian. Moldovan's are even lower.

Sure, these are weak social strata i am describing here, but the perceptions run through a typical European mind. A Spanish construction worker who marries a Romanian is seen as having 'bought' her because she is easy. And that is a low Spaniard, and a Spaniard is a lower European in the standards (compared to Italian, German, Scandinavian, French, British etc).

Hmm. This is cultural actuality without the required deconstruction to prove it or convince you that it is anything more than a theory. Perhaps another time i will think this out and make it clear, but, right now, i maintain what i said. Romanian girls are considered easy, the easiest in Europe, and any man with one is seen as having bought her, regardless of how hot she is. Now, sure, that also applies to Russians and Poles, and so on, but with Romanians, it is seen as a little cheaper.

Is it fair, or even prudent? Probably not. But it is a type of meme that runs through a western European individuals mind.

This is an outright crock of shit.

Romanian women are not easy, its just that so many of them are whores these days simply because the typical financial situation of the average Romanian is brutal by European standards. One of Romania's biggest exports is its women and this is driven predominantly by poverty. Romanians abroad are not an indication of Romanians in Romania at all though.

Its one poorest of the Eastern European countries and the women are prone to fucking their way out of poverty, as was the case in most of EE and Russia when it was in the pits too. Which means that all those players talking up how easy Romanian women are, are banging out pro's for the most part. Either in their own countries as they mack it up in brothels and strip clubs which are inundated with Romanians, or in Romania itself, which has been hammered by sex tourists from Italy and Turkey in particular.

And how the hell does any man gain credibility based on the nationality of the woman he marries? Im curious to know how marrying a French or Italian women ADDS to ones credibility. Likewise how there is some sort of European ranking championship underway where a womans nationality somehow holds some sort of status marker? Christ, I have no idea where people come with this shit sometimes.

Anyone who has been to Romania will tell you that Romanian women are probably some of the most diverse in Europe. Romania is a melting pot of Slav, Balkan, Gypsy, Turk, Persian and European to the point that the people can often be so diverse in looks you wont know what the hell their nationality was until they told you they were Romanian. They are probably the most exotic women on the continent. Which means you could have walked past 100 Romanians in the street yesterday and not even realised that they were fucking Romanians 95% of the time.

Its not a place to trust people easily and the women are no different. There are a lot of scammers there and the women are no different in some cases. Which means whoring is a national pass time in the place for many women, but that is not a reflection on all of them.

Romania is no easier or more difficult than most places in Eastern Europe. As always location will matter. The women are very approachable for the most part, and while some have bitch shields they are not a mile high. Its easy to plow through it though and its not over the top by any means, but it exists because of the sex tourists that have been hunting there for two decades now. Decent chicks and middle class chicks are going to take the mandatory 2-3 dates/nights out to lay unless you really hit her buttons right. SNL is always possible, but its not always certain there at all and the women are pretty damn conservative despite the fact that they are affectionate.

Looks wise they are right up there. I have a thing for brunettes with very green eyes or blue eyes and its the one place I have found it the most common. There are a lot of average women there by EE standards, but there are some outright stunners that will knock your socks off too.

This is one of the odd things about Romania. There are a lot of average looking women by EE standards. A lot more 4's and 5's and some real pigs. Its just that the 9's and 10's are so off the chain sometimes that the fuglies become invisible.

The top 10% of women in Romania would arguably be some of the best in the world.

[Volk]

Also, you might find that the women that come from the Bukovina region are essentially and genetically Ukrainian, and we know how they are.

[presidentcarter]

Average Bucharest girls (I assume...never been there):

[Reggie]

"There are a lot of average looking women by EE standards"

WHere did you get that from? Seriously. Romanian girls might be short by average . But they are sure remarkable pretty. I have never seen so many gorgeous girls with stunningly facial features like days when I was in Romania, Bucharest. Like I stated before. Romanian girls might be short, but that´s it. They have beautiful facial features that resembles good looking Southern and Italian women. However, the difference lays in the Slavic notion which gives them slightly higher cheekbones than their latin sisters in Italy and Spain. Romanian race is way more homogeneous than most European countries. That being said.

Roosh, don´t forget to visit top Malls while you are in Bucharest. The quality(and the quanitity) which you can witness in Mall Vitan can surpass some of the best nightclubs.

If you are into Selena Gomez or Jennifer Lawrence look a likes then Romania is a major hot spot on this planet.

[Reggie]

(03-01-2013 11:01 AM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

Average Bucharest girls (I assume...never been there):

That´s exactly the type of girls that are average...Which in my opinion are cute to pretty..

[presidentcarter]

(03-01-2013 11:05 AM)Reggie Wrote:  

That´s exactly the type of girls that are average...Which in my opinion are cute to pretty..

Since I prefer dark features...the far right and grey shorts girls are in my book.

[Greek kamaki]

Guess what?For this ad they used Romanian girls to play the Russian as you can deduce from their asses.

[Reggie]

I can easily claim(wihtout exaggerate) that over 70 to 80% of all girls between the range of 18 to 25-26 age years looks like the girls in that picture. Romanians are homogenic race, that means lots lots of Romanian girls look like eachother. Trust me on this guys. Those girls are no stunners, they are not 10s. But the average Romanian girl is like, Naughty Nomad said: "Splendidly cute". Nothing more nore less. At least I give you a fair realistic picture...

[Menace]

(03-01-2013 11:12 AM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 11:05 AM)Reggie Wrote:  

That´s exactly the type of girls that are average...Which in my opinion are cute to pretty..

Since I prefer dark features...the far right and grey shorts girls are in my book.

Agree with this assessment. They are clearly a step above the other 3.

Some more relevant info from around the web:

[Locksmith]

[/quote] Now, sure, that also applies to Russians and Poles, and so on, but with Romanians, it is seen as a little cheaper.

Is it fair, or even prudent? Probably not. But it is a type of meme that runs through a western European individuals mind.
[/quote]

This is an outright crock of shit.


[/quote] And how the hell does any man gain credibility based on the nationality of the woman he marries? Im curious to know how marrying a French or Italian women ADDS to ones credibility. Likewise how there is some sort of European ranking championship underway where a womans nationality somehow holds some sort of status marker? Christ, I have no idea where people come with this shit sometimes.[/quote]

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I can give a couple of specific, concrete, personal examples here that challenge some of the fantastic theories being ventilated here:

There were two Romanian girls, whom I was banging, who proposed to join me on two separate trips to North-Western Europe. They obviously covered their own expenses and even went beyond that.

These were elite girls, they had in fact a better financial situation at that time than I had myself. And they were fucking attractive and sexy.

One was the daughter of one of Ceaucescu's international bankers (a hard-core capitalist member of the old communist party top, you might ironically infer...).

The other one was a young doctor, daughter of the director of a provincial hospital who had a private clinic on the side.

Honestly, the only negative impact I perceived when walking around with these girls were the envious eyes that followed us.

Also, as HH rightly mentions, there was no way you could say that they were from some cursed Balkan shithole which you're meant to despise, just by looking at them walk in front of you.

From my circle of friends and acquaintances there was zero reluctance to accept them in social gatherings. Quite the contrary, they raised the bar.

These girls were not only elite in terms of money and looks, they also behaved accordingly, speaking several languages, naturally showing they were highly educated, displaying refined manners and this while being fun girls to be with.

Now, if instead of happily parading with these two Romanian girls I would have showed up in North-Western Europe with a rotating team of cheap gypsy sluts, then, yeah, my experience would have been certainly a lot different.

I hope my personal experience can shed some light here.

[bojangles]

(03-01-2013 10:17 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Romanian women are not easy, its just that so many of them are whores these days simply because the typical financial situation of the average Romanian is brutal by European standards. One of Romania's biggest exports is its women and this is driven predominantly by poverty. Romanians abroad are not an indication of Romanians in Romania at all though.

Its one poorest of the Eastern European countries and the women are prone to fucking their way out of poverty, as was the case in most of EE and Russia when it was in the pits too. Which means that all those players talking up how easy Romanian women are, are banging out pro's for the most part

Yep I've said this a lot myself, the majority of Romanian girls in the UK are whores and it is because of the financial poverty in Romania, getting a romanian flag here in the UK without paying is a hard task. Great post btw.

[Hooligan Harry]

(03-01-2013 11:19 AM)Reggie Wrote:  

I can easily claim(wihtout exaggerate) that over 70 to 80% of all girls between the range of 18 to 25-26 age years looks like the girls in that picture. Romanians are homogenic race, that means lots lots of Romanian girls look like eachother. Trust me on this guys. Those girls are no stunners, they are not 10s. But the average Romanian girl is like, Naughty Nomad said: "Splendidly cute". Nothing more nore less. At least I give you a fair realistic picture...

Romanians are homogenic race

What are they putting in the water in Sweden?

[rudebwoy]

Some guys are really lost it is scary, I wanted to say something about that hierarchy nonsense but Harry said it best. So a ugly French woman would rank better than a hot Romanian based on that logic.
I have never been to Romania, based on the girls I have come across it is very high on my list. This country was exporting women, I met a Romanian dude in London and he claimed the women were a natural resource.
I have a few on my FB friends list, they are club dancers and I never get tired of looking at there pics. Is that Beta?

[Innuendo]

(03-01-2013 10:06 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 08:01 AM)Innuendo Wrote:  

Hey, I'm Romanian so I can answer pretty much all questions.
Currently traveling in the Philippines so I don't have time to write too much but I can answer any questions.

- You can smoke in clubs and bars, not in some restaurants
- English is widely spoken by the <30 years old population
- The language has nothing to do with russian, it's similar to italian/spanish/french in the sense that although I don't know these languages when I hear them being spoken I can pretty much figure out what they are talking about.
- The old town of Bucharest was a goldmine a few years ago but now it's pretty overrun with foreigners and very crowded during the weekends. You can still find more then enough girls but I think it's getting tougher for foreigners because of all the italian/french/etc stag parties. Also be careful because some of the bars there have started to employ fake customers (hot girls just standing around at tables next to the entry)
- American culture has been gaining a lot here in the last few years, I can already see girls not being as feminine as in the past, acting the way they see in american movies etc
- Best clubs are in the north part of Bucharest but that means poor logistics. Try clubs Player on wednesdays and Gaia on thursdays.
- One night stands are rare but 2-3 dates and you should get the notch
- Cluj, Iasi, Timisoara are good second tier cities with big universities

Can't think of anything else right now but I'll answer questions.

How is Constanta?

What time do restaurants close?

Constanta is a pretty big city on the seaside but there's not much going there except in the summer. You can check out Mamaia, a 20 minute drive away which is basically where the rich in Romania go off to show their wealth in the summer.

Normal restaurants close around 11-12. Restaurants in Bucharest old town might close around 1-2 am but there are some non-stop so there's no problem getting food at any hour of the night.

[thegmanifesto]

There is something about these EE threads.

You read them and end up more confused.

Reports are all over the map and people start breaking out all kinds of hairbrained theories.

And almost never do people name the names of the best places to go besides maybe a day game spot or a mall.

Now what's the deal with the beach there?

[Innuendo]

Listen guys, I have been probably all over Europe and Romania can be pretty great if you're gonna stay there for a few months. Just don't expect to get off the plane and start banging models like some posts in this thread seem to hint at.

[presidentcarter]

(03-01-2013 12:27 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

There is something about these EE threads.

You read them and end up more confused.

Reports are all over the map and people start breaking out all kinds of hairbrained theories.

And almost never do people name the names of the best places to go besides maybe a day game spot or a mall.

Now what's the deal with the beach there?

Exactly. It's like when I had one Ukrainian girl tell me that Odessa was great and another one telling me that it was a shit hole for tourists.

We need more hard fact and pictures when discussing a locale than the binary 'it's good' or 'it's bad'.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-01-2013 12:29 PM)Innuendo Wrote:  

Listen guys, I have been probably all over Europe and Romania can be pretty great if you're gonna stay there for a few months. Just don't expect to get off the plane and start banging models like some posts in this thread seem to hint at.

So basically it is just like every other country in the world outside of America.

[Innuendo]

(03-01-2013 12:27 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Now what's the deal with the beach there?

Do not go in Romania for the beach. It's pretty disappointing by any standard. However in the summer it can be quite the party place for students, just don't expect any high class stuff.

The main places are:
Mamaia - more expensive and higher class, pretty big
Costinesti - cheaper and a ton of students and young people
Vama Veche - hippie town, some people live in tents on the beach

I wouldn't really go anywhere else on the Romanian seaside, there are quite a few resort towns where a lot of hotels were built in the communist times but it can be pretty empty there these days and with nothing to do.

[Hooligan Harry]

(03-01-2013 12:27 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

There is something about these EE threads.

You read them and end up more confused.

Reports are all over the map and people start breaking out all kinds of hairbrained theories.

And almost never do people name the names of the best places to go besides maybe a day game spot or a mall.

Now what's the deal with the beach there?

Dude, its EE. Places come and go and the sheer numbers of nameless bars is staggering. The expat and tourist traps last and some of the bigger clubs stick around for a while, but shit changes often and there is no point planning bar or club visits too far in advance. Expat dives and tourist traps tend to be infested with working girls

Walk into most bars, clubs and night venues and there are chicks everywhere. Its EE,the ratios will be good if the place is simply full. Chasing down specific spots is pointless unless locals are telling you to go. After all these years, I still just hit the streets, follow the crowds and check out local papers and guides for events when I am in town. I would do that in Moscow tomorrow and that place has been like my second home at times.

Romanian beach towns are shit. You are better off in Bulgaria, Ukraine or even Turkey. Odessa needs to be seen for the women alone

[Hooligan Harry]

(03-01-2013 12:31 PM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 12:27 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

There is something about these EE threads.

You read them and end up more confused.

Reports are all over the map and people start breaking out all kinds of hairbrained theories.

And almost never do people name the names of the best places to go besides maybe a day game spot or a mall.

Now what's the deal with the beach there?

Exactly. It's like when I had one Ukrainian girl tell me that Odessa was great and another one telling me that it was a shit hole for tourists.

We need more hard fact and pictures when discussing a locale than the binary 'it's good' or 'it's bad'.

If you are going to Odessa for the beach in the first place, you are homosexual. Its an industrial pit packed full of hot Ukrainian women on holiday in the summer months. They descend on the place in summer.

Its shit for the average western tourist. If you are looking to get laid and looking to have a party, its a good time. Just dont expect many photo opportunities.

Not sure why a womans advice on the suitability of a destination means anything.

[presidentcarter]

(03-01-2013 12:57 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

If you are going to Odessa for the beach in the first place, you are homosexual. Its an industrial pit packed full of hot Ukrainian women on holiday in the summer months. They descend on the place in summer.

Its shit for the average western tourist. If you are looking to get laid and looking to have a party, its a good time. Just dont expect many photo opportunities.

Not sure why a womans advice on the suitability of a destination means anything.

Huh?

G was asking about Romania's beaches and I was saying ambiguous, binary, or theoretical reviews of a spot are useless and used the Odessa 'good' 'bad' as example of that.

[kosko]

For what it's worth there is a shit ton of Romanians here in Canada. We have around 200K in our Country and a grew up with a wack of them in the Prairies. I used to be all about Romanian girls because I was gassed over Brunettes and for a good stretch, and for a while I couldn't find a ugly one. Coming to Toronto I've seen some pig faces but overall they look really good. I've had a lot of fun with Romanian girls from HS onwards, one of my first jumpoffs in Toronto was a nutty Romanian girl whom would change her hair colour like every week it seemed (whore-denial complex). She had nice curves and crazy green eyes. We would bang 3-4 times a week, for some stretches everyday, we both just liked to have fun but she was a player no doubt. She would con dudes into doing her homework, and con dudes to get free drinks at the bar, basically she always used her looks and tits to get what she wanted lol.

Funny thing is the second she finished up school (she was 2 years before me) she moved back home to marry her childhood love. I guess it turns out she was long distance with this dude since they were kids and when she moved she promised to marry him. Dude looked like a gargoyle but when I seen their pictures from when they were kids she wasn't to cute either lol. She ran the carousel hard here, she claimed to only loosing her V-card the summer before she moved over "with him", but she went wild here with a crazy hunger for cock. She did end up returning back to marry him, and they seem happy in the pictures. She plumped the fuck up quick, so I feel sorry for the guy but hey whatever.

Only thing I can say about Romanian chics here in Canada is that a lot of them are down for Brothers for what that is worth. I have gotten with a lot of Romanian girls and a lot of my homies have dated a bunch. I am not sure if Hip-Hop is popular over there or something because even girls whom are not that Canadian-ized can be all about the Chocolate very quickly. A old friend of mine was from Bucharest and he did Graffiti there, and rapped (wasn't any good), but he was a legit Hip-hop head and he would tell me how there was a legit underground hip-hop scene there.
My old jump-off also confirmed to me that Romanian girls love hip-hop and Black men, I have no idea if she was just trolling though I have no Intel of what goes on over there other then what these girls tell me. The joke for us up here is that if you want a Latina girl in Canada you go date a Romanian chic, they look close alike in some ways.

I have had a fascination with the place since I was young because like I said for the longest time Romania girls where the "most exotic" girls we had access to in the Prairies. Its always been a place I've had on my list so it will be interesting to read about Roosh's experiences there.

[Hooligan Harry]

(03-01-2013 01:05 PM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

Huh?

G was asking about Romania's beaches and I was saying ambiguous, binary, or theoretical reviews of a spot are useless and used the Odessa 'good' 'bad' as example of that.

Because its pointless to ask for the names of bars and clubs when half the time you cant even read the fucking signs. Places open and close all the time. Shit goes through periods of promotions and decline. Half the places are mafia fronts used to wash cash and they will be shut in a few months. Restaurants are about the only things that last.

What data are you guys looking for?

Its EE. The ratios are good, which means most bars and clubs that are full are going to be packed out. Its not like the western dumps we live in where you need to find the latest and trendiest places.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-01-2013 12:53 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Romanian beach towns are shit. You are better off in Bulgaria, Ukraine or even Turkey. Odessa needs to be seen for the women alone

Is it really that bad?



Sh*t in what way?