Quote: (12-20-2015 07:41 AM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:
Quote: (02-22-2013 09:52 PM)bacon Wrote:
even though im not this guys target demographic (im white)
Hiis target demographic is clearly white.
Tommy has a somewhat mixed demographic if you believe the youtube commentators and his fans on forums.
He has good points on a basic level. Past that, he does not present much to either male audience, black and non-black alike. He is pretty good at complaining and calling out ratchet bullshit behavior, but let's be real here, that shit is NOT rocket science. He will not go very deep into any issue because he honestly cannot. He is not some highly trained historian, a philosopher, political scientist, economist, etc. that could provide powerful insight into these issues. Heck if he was a trained minister or something like that with a heavy biblical background, Greek/Latin studies, etc. he could be more dynamic as well.
He has a very blue collar and simplistic way to address issues. He is not wrong, but like Tuth says, the nuance is in the details. He is not going to break some shit down like Jariel, WestIndianArchie, or Exclesior would. He is just not that thoughtful. He also does semi-childish stuff like getting into ridiculous back and forth with stupid people, beef with Tariq (although Tariq is the main agitator), name calling/fights with black women.
I know he is not trying to have the same audience that Quintus Curtius would have, but that does not mean that he should not elevate the level of discourse with his listeners and educate them to a higher level of thought process. Trying to be a black Jeff Foxworthy might pay off in some ways but it will absolutely fail in many other ways and create more enemies. Hasn't he been banned on Youtube at least 2 times now?
As the adage in the Manosphere when it comes to the separation between MGTOWs/PUAhate-ish spaces to spaces like RVF: Bring me your problems, I give you solutions. Obviously RVF is a place with solutions, not constant bitching and moaning about issues.
I do not watch Tommy much, especially not lately, but he is not very much into the solution crowd/space. He is not dropping datasheet like information to brothers in need for how to travel or what to do game wise at home. He is not teaching black women anything (not that it would work anyway). He is not teaching skills or techniques to men on how to overcome a particular life difficulty either.
Personally I hope I can get location/financial independent so that I can possibly start doing videos like he can. He is obviously self-sufficient enough to fan flames if you watch him going around town and his house. There is a need for men, color aside, to get skills, tools, techniques, advice, information, education, travel knowledge, etc. disseminated down to them in plain English as well as higher level discourse. It's one thing to take a red pill on the reality of our situation, it is another to get off the beginner's red pill hamster wheel to stop complaining and start taking proper action. All of us have been through that stage for various lengths of time.
The forums are good but video is another good platform as well. Different people have different learning styles. Let's be real, lots of people don't have the patience to read several datasheets. As a martial arts instructor for many years, I cannot use a dummy to teach pressure points or strategy for every student. Sometimes you have to light spar with a guy for him to understand how something works. Some can look at a picture of a Judo throw and do it right the first time. We are all different when it comes to learning styles (visual, spacial, conceptual, etc.). That is why I support Roosh and his videos. Guys make sure you all subscribe to his Youtube channel when you get a chance. Even if you don't have time to watch them all, subscribe.
As for Tommy, I don't know. He may figure it out someday but he has to understand that at the end of the day, you cannot inform, hate, and encourage people in the same breath. It looks hypocritical. That is why many blacks think he is an Uncle Tom that worships white women.
Being able to convey deeper meaning while shaming bad behavior is harder said than done.
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