[SuperDave]

I have one important point I haven't seen on this thread. First let me just say I have paid a few times, I have shored, and I hook up with regular girls in the states and in latin america (by the way my most expensive woman was the one I was married to for 10 years). Sometimes chicks are a challenge and sometimes they fall in my lap. Sometimes I'm a cheap bastard, sometimes I throw money around like I don't give a fuck. The point about shoring, if the time is right and you are in the mood, is IT'S A CHALLENGE, Happy shoring!

[Entropy4]

(09-02-2010 06:40 PM)SuperDave Wrote:  

I have one important point I haven't seen on this thread. First let me just say I have paid a few times, I have shored, and I hook up with regular girls in the states and in latin america (by the way my most expensive woman was the one I was married to for 10 years). Sometimes chicks are a challenge and sometimes they fall in my lap. Sometimes I'm a cheap bastard, sometimes I throw money around like I don't give a fuck. The point about shoring, if the time is right and you are in the mood, is IT'S A CHALLENGE, Happy shoring!

Well said.

I find it fun. In some places it's absolutely impossible to game in the traditional sense, so shoring is the only way you can "game" a girl. And even if you fuck up and pay her, you still get laid!

[K-man]

Not sure about Asia or Latin America, but the places where I've banged prostitutes (Eastern Europe and France) the girls all have pimps, and the pimp gets half their earnings. This is in exchange for protecting them from police, from abusers, and sometimes for importing them into the country illegally, for housing, etc.

So in an arrangement like that if the going rate is say $100, you can't bargain her down to $20 - she would have to still give the pimp $50 because he is counting her lays. In the "gentleman's club" she can't leave with you and fuck for free because she is there to make money for the owner and if she doesn't then she is out the next day.

Maybe things are different in BA, I have not been. But in Europe I find it hard to believe you can get a hoe for free - maybe on her night off, but walking in a club and leaving with a working girl without paying - nah.

[naughtynomad]

Quite interesting the divide on this issue.

For me, the money side of things is important. I once had 2 chicks in Thailand offering me a threesome for just 15USD for the two. I didn't take it. It doesn't matter if it's 5 fucking dollars. If a girls wants to fuck you she can, but "love is free", as I often say. Sex is secondary, I'm looking for intimacy. It's COMPLETELY different if a girl genuinely wants to be with you.

Why shore?
1. Because sometimes that's the only option.
2. It's fast, free and readily available.
2. BEST SEX EVA!
3. It's fucking fun.

But I agree, this forum should definitely not discuss P4P. As mentioned, there are plenty of other forums for that. Shoring is not P4P. I'm sure a lot of you, given the situation would do to same. It just depends where you are.

Would you say no to a smoking hot chick who wants to show you the night of your life at 1AM in morning? For Free? No Strings?

MiX: The blog only touches on the subject. I will take your input on board. Thanks man

[thegmanifesto]

I think people are taking this subject too seriously.

I also agree, this forum should definitely not discuss swooping hookers for dough (swooping them for free is discussable).

For all the moral high grounders, I also doubt that if 5 Victoria Secret models offered to swoop you at 3am in the morning, on the condition that had to pay them $1, you would tell them to hit the bricks.

I would respect you for sticking to your guns. I would also call you an idiot.

[Farang]

I did this a couple of times in Thailand without ever really intentionally setting out to. Would go out drinking with people from the hostels I was staying in and we'd head to pretty touristy places most of the time, little chance of meeting locals. These places all close early so some of us would usually go on to unofficial after hours places that tend to be filled with free lance working girls or girls who work occassionally if they need money. I have never paid for sex and would rather not so I'd either always make it clear to the girls at the start of the night that "I don't pay for sex" and see if they still hung around, simply chat to them as if they were normal girls and not brace the subject of sex (a few later said to me they were just glad I didn't ask them "how much for the night?") or start the conversation off by pretending I didn't know they were working girls and ask what they did for work, as someone mentioned earlier they often tell you they work in a hotel or office and if you just keep chatting to them about that they can't really go back on it after a while.

Don't fall for the trap the next day of "can I borrow 500 Baht for the taxi home". As this is basically them taking payment for the night without actually blatently making out they are a hooker. So many guys I met would say "I took home a working girl for free BUT she asked me for XXX for the taxi home". Well you didn't take her home for free then.

A lot of people see it as a major acheivement taking home a working girl and not paying her, others won't like the idea at all as it's hardly difficult to bed a whore.