[Gustav]

(10-06-2013 12:54 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

One of the best ways to learn or improve your Portuguese is to listen to its music, which is IMHO, the most varied and the best in the world bar none. Though there are numerous genres of Brasilian music, I'll start with my favorites, samba and pagode.

Start with these:
Arlindo Cruz singing with his son two eternal Sambas:
O Imperio do Divino - Aquarela Brasileira
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDaSXdvA7Z8
The first song, O Imperio do Divino is one of the most beautiful samba enredos of the past 20 years. And the 2nd one, Aquarela Brasileira is largely considered by Brasilians as the best Brasilian song ode about Brasil. It's widely considered as the real national anthem and there has been movements that are gathering force to making this THE official national anthem. It's just that good and that beautiful, specially if you understand the lyrics. It's pure poetry. It was written by the man largely considered as the best samba compositor of all time, Mestre Silas de Oliveira. Both of these songs have been written for the Imperio Serrano samba school in Rio, one of the most traditional and beloved of all the samba schools in Rio and Brasil.

Arlindo Cruz is one of the best pagode/samba singer in Brasil. I love his songs.
Some more great stuff from Arlindo:
Mesa do Pagode do Arlindo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh1KZn_fj1g

You will recognize some big time Samba/Pagode singers in here: Arlindo Crus, Beth Carvalho, Zeca Pagodinho and to a lesser degree, Dudu Nobre.

Another great samba/pagode group, is Fundo de Quintal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqV9Uza4uIs

Another monument of Brasilian samba, Jorge Aragao:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzJwx7wXqj8

Here Jorge Aragao with the undisputed QUEEN of Samba, Beth Carvalho (pronounced Betchee CaRvalyo with the R pronounced as a French R).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OCFB5E0LP8
Here she sings two of all the time greatest Brasilian songs, O que e o que e and Samba de Arere. These are stables songs, if you pay close attention to the videos, you will see people of all ages, from grand parents to grand kids singing them. It's for a reason that they do it.


The king of Pagode, has the word Pagode even in his name, Zeca Pagodinho, a true legend in Brasilian music.
Some of his best songs:
Samba pras mocas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-WekRyVzRI

Faixa amarela:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_9RB9E23HY

His most famous song and among the all time greatest Brasilian songs,
Deixa a vida me levar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzKCFxFlBY

Another blockbuster of his, Caviar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pM-7xA5tjw

Full show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnj8VOBhfc4

Another great samba group, more recent, is Grupo Revelacao:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz_8TmIrVRU

I can add way more, but I'll stop here as this has put me in a mood to go out and have a few drinks.

Anyways, music is one of the best ways to learn, improve and train your ear to a language specially Portuguese as it has very unique and challenging tones, mainly nasal tones.

Totally agree bro. Mas que nada and other older samba songs helped me loads

[Shamrock]

Ending up going forward with the mimic method for Portuguese...it's fantastic. As I get further through the program I'll get a mini review up.

[solo]

Found this word frequency list, not sure how scientific/accurate it is but seems pretty solid: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary...e_wordlist

Was happy to see that I seem to know most of these words. Though of course I'm helped by being fluent in Spanish, some of them I had actually thought of or stumbled upon and then learned. Currently I'm concentrating on learning so called "falsos amigos" words which can be a bit confusing sometimes.

[paninaro]

Been studying Portuguese for the past 3 weeks with a tutor. I have some fo the basics down, in preparation for going to Brazil shortly.

Can anyone recommend any iPhone apps for an English-Portuguese (and vice-versa) dictionary? A translator app would be great, assuming it can work without being connected to the data network. I'm guessing the Brazilian data network will be struggling along during the World Cup.

There's a bunch of apps out there, but hoping someone has already looked through them and can recommend what they think works best.

[CimbomluBkk]

Haha sorry for bringing this thread up.
Need some help lol
Since I want to visit Brazil in the upcoming future, I spoofed my location to Sao Paolo on tinder, and used google translate to chat with the girls. I straight out asked them if they wanted to fuck. However I can't translate what they say most of the time because they use abbreviations and slang language.
Could someone summarize what she's trying to say here.

Me: Sexy!
Her: ?????
Me: Voce e sexy
Me: Posso dar-lhe uma massagem
Her: Obrigada
Her: Eita
Me: Vamos fazer sexo?
Her: Ai q tudo
Her: Hehehe vamos!

So does she want it or not?

[chochemonger1]

(11-19-2014 08:17 AM)CimbomluBkk Wrote:  

Haha sorry for bringing this thread up.
Need some help lol
Since I want to visit Brazil in the upcoming future, I spoofed my location to Sao Paolo, and used google translate to chat with the girls. I straight out asked them if they wanted to fuck. However I can't translate what they say most of the time because they use abbreviations and slang language.
Could someone summarize what she's trying to say here.

Me: Sexy!
Her: ?????
Me: Voce e sexy
Me: Posso dar-lhe uma massagem
Her: Obrigada
Her: Eita
Me: Vamos fazer sexo?
Her: Ai q tudo
Her: Hehehe vamos!

So does she want it or not?

Yes she does literally and she seems down. But she could also be yanking your chain and just being playful (Brazilian girls are known for that).

[chochemonger1]

Also, if you are white and have light hair and eyes, darker skinned Brazilian girls are more down to try sex fast. From the picture she seemed mulatto or dark mestiza.

[CimbomluBkk]

(11-19-2014 08:27 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Also, if you are white and have light hair and eyes, darker skinned Brazilian girls are more down to try sex fast. From the picture she seemed mulatto or dark mestiza.

Theres another chick, it says she's a dental student on her profile, she fla out asked me if I wanted to fuck, thought she was a prostitute, but she has pictures of her doing dental work and shit.

This is how the conversation went.


I matched her and then she messages.

Her: Oi gatinho
Her: Afim de que?
Her: Mora onde?
Me: Oi
Me: Eu sou da turquia
Her: Que fofo
Her: Ta em sp?
Me: Velo air brasil para o feriado
Her: Ta em Hotel?
Me: Sim
Her: Quero Sexo
Her: Chuosr muito
Her: E vc
Me: Sim
Her: Ta onde
Her: Sou safada
Her Gosto de chupar
Me: mmmm
Me: Voca gosta grande galo
Her: Adoro
Her: Tem whats?


I stopped responding to her thinking she's a pro, but I'm not completely sure. Are women this forward in Brazil?

[chochemonger1]

(11-19-2014 08:31 AM)CimbomluBkk Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 08:27 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Also, if you are white and have light hair and eyes, darker skinned Brazilian girls are more down to try sex fast. From the picture she seemed mulatto or dark mestiza.

Theres another chick, it says she's a dental student on her profile, she fla out asked me if I wanted to fuck, thought she was a prostitute, but she has pictures of her doing dental work and shit.

This is how the conversation went.


I matched her and then she messages.

Her: Oi gatinho
Her: Afim de que?
Her: Mora onde?
Me: Oi
Me: Eu sou da turquia
Her: Que fofo
Her: Ta em sp?
Me: Velo air brasil para o feriado
Her: Ta em Hotel?
Me: Sim
Her: Quero Sexo
Her: Chuosr muito
Her: E vc
Me: Sim
Her: Ta onde
Her: Sou safada
Her Gosto de chupar
Me: mmmm
Me: Voca gosta grande galo
Her: Adoro
Her: Tem whats?


I stopped responding to her thinking she's a pro, but I'm not completely sure. Are women this forward in Brazil?

Is she dark skinned? There are dark skinned groupies in Brazil, who are always looking for white guys.
She likes your looks, but that she is expressing loving to suck cock so fast... could be a tinder thing. Generally they are not that forward, so fast. There is no mention of money and she only asks for your whatsapp, so it sounds real.

[CimbomluBkk]

(11-19-2014 08:38 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 08:31 AM)CimbomluBkk Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 08:27 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Also, if you are white and have light hair and eyes, darker skinned Brazilian girls are more down to try sex fast. From the picture she seemed mulatto or dark mestiza.

Theres another chick, it says she's a dental student on her profile, she fla out asked me if I wanted to fuck, thought she was a prostitute, but she has pictures of her doing dental work and shit.

This is how the conversation went.


I matched her and then she messages.

Her: Oi gatinho
Her: Afim de que?
Her: Mora onde?
Me: Oi
Me: Eu sou da turquia
Her: Que fofo
Her: Ta em sp?
Me: Velo air brasil para o feriado
Her: Ta em Hotel?
Me: Sim
Her: Quero Sexo
Her: Chuosr muito
Her: E vc
Me: Sim
Her: Ta onde
Her: Sou safada
Her Gosto de chupar
Me: mmmm
Me: Voca gosta grande galo
Her: Adoro
Her: Tem whats?


I stopped responding to her thinking she's a pro, but I'm not completely sure. Are women this forward in Brazil?

Is she dark skinned? There are dark skinned groupies in Brazil, who are always looking for white guys.
She likes your looks, but that she is expressing loving to suck cock so fast... could be a tinder thing. Generally they are not that forward, so fast. There is no mention of money and she only asks for your whatsapp, so it sounds real.

Shes darker than me, but I dont think she is dark by brazillan standards. The fact that she immediately asked If I was staying at a hotel, and asked if I wanted to fuck her leads me to believe that shes a semi pro.

[chochemonger1]

She is white for sure by Brazilian standards. Seeing that she is that and also 19 and pretty good looking, there is a high chance she is a semi pro. Sort of like pre pagos, all over universities throughout Colombia.

[Vacancier Permanent]

She does look to be way too direct and way too soon to be a non pro IMO.
Next time you chat with her, tell her:

"Gosto de vc, porem saiba q eu nao pago pro sexo!"

See what she responds and take it from there.

[CimbomluBkk]

(11-19-2014 01:49 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

She does look to be way too direct and way too soon to be a non pro IMO.
Next time you chat with her, tell her:

"Gosto de vc, porem saiba q eu nao pago pro sexo!"

See what she responds and take it from there.

The first one is definitely not a pro, she wants it for real, its been over a month since my last chat with the 2nd one

[Smooth Operator]

Both cases are pros.

[CimbomluBkk]

No the 1st one is definitely not a pro, we're on snapchat right now, a pros time is much more valuable. The second one is %99 a semi pro tho.

[chochemonger1]

(11-19-2014 04:45 PM)CimbomluBkk Wrote:  

No the 1st one is definitely not a pro, we're on snapchat right now, a pros time is much more valuable. The second one is %99 a semi pro tho.

Yes, like I told you. I have seen dark skinned Brazilian girls act that way with white guys. But never a young white garota.

[CimbomluBkk]

These girls are driving me crazy with the abbreviation language, I told them so many times that google doesn't translate it

[tallandblonde]

(11-19-2014 08:31 AM)CimbomluBkk Wrote:  

I stopped responding to her thinking she's a pro, but I'm not completely sure. Are women this forward in Brazil?

Some are to the point where they will compliment you openly. A lot more women in Brazil messaged me first on Tinder then I was used to in the USA. Granted, I'm the type of gringo they stereotypically go after: tall, blonde hair, green eyes, good body, etc. Anyways, if they have interest they will let you know. But I would be immediately very suspicious of any chick talking about sex that quickly. They still are women and try to at least make you work a tiny bit before jumping into bed with you.

[xmlenigma]

Michel Thomas vs Pimsleur for beginner conversational Portuguese & Spanish?

I read somewhere that MT was different and better in some way and more intuitive and less structured so learning was not a pain.. more effortless. I am wondering if someone has tried both and can share insights/ experiences.