Athlone,
Thanks for a lively debate. I know its not easy to defend every little detail that you write. I think you have probably won this exchange and I'm almost done but I want to respond at least one more time before I concede defeat.
Please answer my questions in bold.
Thanks and respect. Intellectual exchange is how men advance their thoughts and learn from each other.
Quote: (01-05-2013 01:48 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:
I've already explained why I used those photos. I can't be much clearer than I have been.
Yes, you used those photos as an example of what happens when men become marginalized and grow up without fathers. You predicted that gangs, violence and crime would go up.
But, crime rates are down? Violence is down. We are not headed in the direction of those photos. They were an inaccurate portrayal of our current direction. Non-blacks are not joining street gangs and committing street crimes in large numbers.
Violence has been trending downwards for the last 1000 years. We are becoming less violent as a people.
The internet has changed the way males express themselves.
The internet has partially filled a void that used to be filled by gangs and acting out. Bored, unfocused, boys can now go online and connect with the world, make friends, express themselves, and have sexual experiences (masturbation)
I am dead serious about this prediction:
Quote: (01-05-2013 06:50 AM)Giovonny Wrote:
I predict masturbation will skyrocket!
We are much more pacified now and docile now. I don't think non-black men will turn to gangs and violence as much as you think. We will log on to the internet to experience the world. We will go outside less. Free porn will help keep men sedated and off the streets!
Your pictures of Black gangsters show total cultural erosion and a "kill or be killed" society. I don't see America devolving to that point. Those photos were sensationalistic at best, and fear mongering at worst, in my opinion.
Will you admit that violent crime is way down statistically?
Will you admit that those photos are an exaggeration of where we are headed?
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You also predict that obesity will rise?
But, isn't obesity on the decline in America?
Will you admit that obesity has leveled off, thus making your first prediction highly unlikely?
Quote: (01-05-2013 01:48 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:
I'm surprised you are so optimistic.
You know I am an optimist. We have been through worse. We are very resilient. Look at all the progress Black people have made recently. 50 years ago, you probably would not have been allowed in the Ivy league, now, you are on your way to becoming a wealthy man. Enjoy your youth. There will always be bad in the world and good in the world. What you choose to focus on will effect your perspective.
Quote: (01-05-2013 01:48 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:
We'll see who is correct in due time.
Do you want to be correct?
Or, are you hoping to be wrong?
I mean, you are predicting more violence, more fat people, more difficult women, etc.
For societies sake, I hope you are wrong.