When you guys say gringo, is that just a white guy? Because I'm American but my parents are from Mexico thus I look Latin but my Spanish is not up to par. Just wondering if I would be considered a gringo or not because I would blend in.
Rob
Quote: (02-24-2010 08:38 AM)armanid27 Wrote:
I think I'm beginnng to see a pattern. I spoke with 2 paisas who are both swimsuit models and solid 9s on their opinions about gringos hitting on them. What I got from both (who don't know each other) is that foreign men or gringos wether you are from America, Europe or Canada have to first overcome the stigmata associated wuth a tourist passing by looking to get laid. Gringos have a bad rep of being whore mongers all over Colombia, as such, higher stratus women, ir the ones that have rich parents or are getting hit on daily by the Colombian affluent men, will nit be caught dead dating a gringo.
Also, if she is well traveled, has a US visa, and come and go as she pleases, then it all boils down to how she will be seen by her peers. Peer pressure us huge in Colombia among the upper class. The hotter the woman, the more social status the guy must have.
Right out the gate, if you say you are in a hostel or in a five star hotel, you are a temporary passerby, who will eventually leave. By default, you are only looking to get laid (which is actually true) and they know this.
If you're a really good looking guy, many tines they will still bang you. But if you cannot even speak Spanish, are in a hotel/hostel then you got to overcome these 2 hurdles FIRST!
This only applies to the really hot women 9+. The lower class will go fir your rap: girls from Bello, Manrique and Estrella, la 70. They welcome the opportunity to be seen with a higher class gringo.
So, I guess it us easy for ne, because not only do I speak Spanish as a native language, but I also own a 2000sf Loft in Poblado, and have friends that gave fincas in Rionegro to show high social status.
I am not seen as a passerby, but a solid investment for the high stratus girls and mega models.
Food fir thought.
Quote: (02-24-2010 09:49 AM)doriangray Wrote:
Quote: (02-24-2010 08:38 AM)armanid27 Wrote:
I think I'm beginnng to see a pattern. I spoke with 2 paisas who are both swimsuit models and solid 9s on their opinions about gringos hitting on them. What I got from both (who don't know each other) is that foreign men or gringos wether you are from America, Europe or Canada have to first overcome the stigmata associated wuth a tourist passing by looking to get laid. Gringos have a bad rep of being whore mongers all over Colombia, as such, higher stratus women, ir the ones that have rich parents or are getting hit on daily by the Colombian affluent men, will nit be caught dead dating a gringo.
Also, if she is well traveled, has a US visa, and come and go as she pleases, then it all boils down to how she will be seen by her peers. Peer pressure us huge in Colombia among the upper class. The hotter the woman, the more social status the guy must have.
Right out the gate, if you say you are in a hostel or in a five star hotel, you are a temporary passerby, who will eventually leave. By default, you are only looking to get laid (which is actually true) and they know this.
If you're a really good looking guy, many tines they will still bang you. But if you cannot even speak Spanish, are in a hotel/hostel then you got to overcome these 2 hurdles FIRST!
This only applies to the really hot women 9+. The lower class will go fir your rap: girls from Bello, Manrique and Estrella, la 70. They welcome the opportunity to be seen with a higher class gringo.
So, I guess it us easy for ne, because not only do I speak Spanish as a native language, but I also own a 2000sf Loft in Poblado, and have friends that gave fincas in Rionegro to show high social status.
I am not seen as a passerby, but a solid investment for the high stratus girls and mega models.
Food fir thought.
This fits perfectly my perceptions about the social life here. The social circle and family is so important for these people here. It's a highly collectivistic culture and sometimes this surprises all the individualistic Americans and (northern) Europeans.
When I come to think of it, I`ve had the best success here with girls who have either mover here recently from somewhere else (not so much peer pressure yet?) and with lower class girls.
Next weekend is gonna be either Envigado, Itagui or Sabaneta. I`d like to check out Itagui especially because during daytime it kinda had nice artistic vibe to it. Anyone has any info on this area?
Quote: (02-24-2010 09:08 AM)loosewin Wrote:
When you guys say gringo, is that just a white guy? Because I'm American but my parents are from Mexico thus I look Latin but my Spanish is not up to par. Just wondering if I would be considered a gringo or not because I would blend in.
Quote: (02-24-2010 10:02 AM)armanid27 Wrote:
Quote: (02-24-2010 09:08 AM)loosewin Wrote:
When you guys say gringo, is that just a white guy? Because I'm American but my parents are from Mexico thus I look Latin but my Spanish is not up to par. Just wondering if I would be considered a gringo or not because I would blend in.
A gringo in all south and central american countries except Brazil is typically any white, blue eyed, blonde hair foreign man. If you are of Mexican origin, you are NOT a gringo, but a Mexican born in the US - like me, I am a Spaniard/Puerto Rican born in New York, and would be laughed at if I say I am gringo regardless if my passport says born in Brooklyn, New York.
In Brazil, a gringo is anyone who is not of Brazilian origin. A Mexican is a gringo, a Honduran is a gringo, a Colombian is a gringo, not just Americans or Europeans.
Quote: (02-25-2010 03:04 PM)dlmelvin86 Wrote:
what are some of the best clubs to pick up grls in medellin?
Quote: (02-25-2010 03:04 PM)dlmelvin86 Wrote:
what are some of the best clubs to pick up grls in medellin?
Quote: (02-25-2010 03:39 PM)armanid27 Wrote:
Quote: (02-25-2010 03:04 PM)dlmelvin86 Wrote:
what are some of the best clubs to pick up grls in medellin?
The best place for swooping is actually Salsa/vallenato clubs. This involves you taking the girl by the hand and kino her before you even know her name. Stay away from Techno or Hip hop clubs. The latter clubs do not allow you to get instant Kino, and girls are in mixed group sets that are closed to outsiders.
Do not buy drinks! All Colombian girls EXPECT you buy her s drink for the privilige of you speaking to her, and 90% of Colombian men game girls by giving her everything she wants for little or no effort.
Quote: (02-26-2010 12:02 AM)dlmelvin86 Wrote:
Quote: (02-25-2010 03:39 PM)armanid27 Wrote:
Quote: (02-25-2010 03:04 PM)dlmelvin86 Wrote:
what are some of the best clubs to pick up grls in medellin?
The best place for swooping is actually Salsa/vallenato clubs. This involves you taking the girl by the hand and kino her before you even know her name. Stay away from Techno or Hip hop clubs. The latter clubs do not allow you to get instant Kino, and girls are in mixed group sets that are closed to outsiders.
Do not buy drinks! All Colombian girls EXPECT you buy her s drink for the privilige of you speaking to her, and 90% of Colombian men game girls by giving her everything she wants for little or no effort.
so it might be better to try and get in good with the guys of the group and have them introduce you to the females?
Quote: (02-24-2010 08:38 AM)armanid27 Wrote:
Gringos (white foreign men) have a bad rep of being whore mongers all over Colombia
Quote: (02-26-2010 08:17 AM)PartyTime Wrote:
Quote: (02-24-2010 08:38 AM)armanid27 Wrote:
Gringos (white foreign men) have a bad rep of being whore mongers all over Colombia
This is definitely true. I had several girls mention this. Even an old lady I talked to at the grocery store said gringos are whore mongers.
Now its true that there are some old, lame gringos that go there on "sex tours" (we actually met a colombian guy that arranges these sex tours). Its also true that many of the young gringos at the clubs get wasted and act like fools (I remember a group of British guys wasted as hell outside of Babylon with their shirts off acting loud, obnoxious, and retarded.) But all of this, in my opinion, does not warrant the "whore monger" reputation.
I have a feeling this stereotype has been spread by the Colombian media. I mean many people have not even met a gringo, yet they already believe them to be whore mongers
Quote: (02-28-2010 12:25 AM)Aspen Wrote:
Solid advice.
I'm 33, so still under the 35-40+ age group, but getting closer.
I downloaded the Rosetta Stone software and Spanish (Latin America) language pack and I'm planning on devoting an hour a day over the next 4 months before I leave.
I'm willing to take dance classes but I'd rather work on day game versus club game.
How friendly will the day game sets be towards a 33 year old foreigner (American) with beginners Spanish in Cordoba and Medellin?
Quote: (02-28-2010 12:25 AM)Aspen Wrote:
How friendly will the day game sets be towards a 33 year old foreigner (American) with beginners Spanish in Cordoba and Medellin?
Quote: (03-01-2010 01:19 AM)baberuth Wrote:
Quote: (02-28-2010 12:25 AM)Aspen Wrote:
How friendly will the day game sets be towards a 33 year old foreigner (American) with beginners Spanish in Cordoba and Medellin?
Dude in Cordoba, you'll be fine. My wing was 30, didn't know much Spanish, and he did very well.
Quote: (02-27-2010 02:33 AM)Aspen Wrote:
Cordoba sounds nice. With hot university students flooding the streets and parks. But it won't be so nice if I get blown out of every set because I can't speak Spanish and I'm too old in their eyes.