[Foolsgo1d]

(04-29-2014 12:23 PM)Excelsior Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 11:52 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 11:22 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^^ They are no different than the ones in England.

They probably wouldn't be able to understand what you are saying.

eh?

May be the hoodrats we have here, they're one and the same but I have come across some really decent black/mixed race women here in England.

I should try my hand in Birmingham sometime.

I haven't seen a good looking black girl turned down by a similar white guy because she is black, we do things differently here it seems.

The English seem generally more open to racial mixing. Top celebrities in the UK seem to engage in it more openly and more often than their American counterparts, and the idea of finding a mate outside of one's ethnicity just seems more mainstream there. I've heard reports that up to 50% of Black English-Caribbean men are married to a non-black (probably white) spouse. 1 in 3 of their female counterparts is doing the same. This lines up well with my personal observation (my mother is from London and much of our extended family is still there - most of their relationships are/have been interracial). Such ratios are unheard of in the USA, where one's racial background can have a much larger impact on their romantic prospects in any given situation and people just aren't as likely to date out, even when given clear opportunities.

Interracial unions carry a larger stigma here, thanks in large part to America's distinct history.

The last part is what I dont understand about the USA. We have more racial background than the USA, hell we started it all off with the immigration to the USA and slavery, however we have grown up around it and it has enriched our culture.

It is only recent that American culture, mainly the hoodrat lifestyle has seeped into our towns and cities and created ghettos similar to the USA.

None of this existed before and providing welfare keeps up it will continue. Our cultures mirror each other in these areas but when it comes to pulling, white & black people and asians are well mixed.

Its like the colour isn't there for some of us. Not saying every man/woman is colour blind in that way.

[rudebwoy]

(04-29-2014 11:52 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 11:22 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^^ They are no different than the ones in England.

They probably wouldn't be able to understand what you are saying.

eh?

May be the hoodrats we have here, they're one and the same but I have come across some really decent black/mixed race women here in England.

I should try my hand in Birmingham sometime.

I haven't seen a good looking black girl turned down by a similar white guy because she is black, we do things differently here it seems.

There are decent black women in America, don't buy into the propoganda.
I am from UK and I have seen ratchet chicks over there as well, they aren't all posh. I have been to more than enough house parties in East London and South London to know what I am talking about.
Birmingham isn't that like India now!

[rudebwoy]

UK and USA are very different when it comes to socializing for the races.
I have seen black guys date everything under the sun in the UK, it's not a problem. Heck, I have seen alot of black women who I wouldn't touch, date decent looking non-black men in the UK as well.
America has a big problem with race, inter-racial dating is still a taboo subject and something you don't see too often on American TV.
Years ago I visited Florida with a blonde ex, the blacks stared at me like was an alien and the whites stared at me with anger in their faces.

[Excelsior]

[Samseau]

(04-29-2014 06:55 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

UK and USA are very different when it comes to socializing for the races.
I have seen black guys date everything under the sun in the UK, it's not a problem. Heck, I have seen alot of black women who I wouldn't touch, date decent looking non-black men in the UK as well.
America has a big problem with race, inter-racial dating is still a taboo subject and something you don't see too often on American TV.
Years ago I visited Florida with a blonde ex, the blacks stared at me like was an alien and the whites stared at me with anger in their faces.

Although the culture of the UK and America is indeed very different, you should also realize that mass immigration has just happened in the UK within the last 20 years.

This means that up until recently, most UK women never had the chance to date foreign men. Thus it's easy now because of the novelty.

However, in time, once the white women who enjoy foreign men run out, the UK's difficulty for non-white men to get white women will increase until it reaches the US levels or more. This is because eventually the only white women left will be the ones who prefer their own (i.e. white men).

Same thing happened in many Asian countries in regards to white men, such as South Korea. Used to be much easier for a white guy to get laid there, but after about 70 years of military occupation white guys no longer have that exotic appeal.

[WalterBlack]

(05-05-2014 11:47 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Although the culture of the UK and America is indeed very different, you should also realize that mass immigration has just happened in the UK within the last 20 years.

This means that up until recently, most UK women never had the chance to date foreign men. Thus it's easy now because of the novelty.

However, in time, once the white women who enjoy foreign men run out, the UK's difficulty for non-white men to get white women will increase until it reaches the US levels or more. This is because eventually the only white women left will be the ones who prefer their own (i.e. white men).

Same thing happened in many Asian countries in regards to white men, such as South Korea. Used to be much easier for a white guy to get laid there, but after about 70 years of military occupation white guys no longer have that exotic appeal.

Incorrect, mass immigration of non-whites began into the UK with the MV Empire Windrush ship from Jamaica in 1948. Indians & Pakistanis came in the 1950s & 60s. Bangladeshis came in the 1970/80s.
I haven’t even mentioned the large numbers of Africans and people from the Middle East.

I totally disagree with the way you think – you’re putting an American prism on race on the UK. UK race relations are nothing like the US. There’s a lot more social mixing in UK than in the US. The main dividing line in UK is class, not race. Have you ever considered that women sometimes bang other people not because they’re exotic but because of other features, such as the guy has got game and/or she likes his style?

[kosko]

(05-05-2014 02:57 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 11:47 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Although the culture of the UK and America is indeed very different, you should also realize that mass immigration has just happened in the UK within the last 20 years.

This means that up until recently, most UK women never had the chance to date foreign men. Thus it's easy now because of the novelty.

However, in time, once the white women who enjoy foreign men run out, the UK's difficulty for non-white men to get white women will increase until it reaches the US levels or more. This is because eventually the only white women left will be the ones who prefer their own (i.e. white men).

Same thing happened in many Asian countries in regards to white men, such as South Korea. Used to be much easier for a white guy to get laid there, but after about 70 years of military occupation white guys no longer have that exotic appeal.

Incorrect, mass immigration of non-whites began into the UK with the MV Empire Windrush ship from Jamaica in 1948. Indians & Pakistanis came in the 1950s & 60s. Bangladeshis came in the 1970/80s.
I haven’t even mentioned the large numbers of Africans and people from the Middle East.

I totally disagree with the way you think – you’re putting an American prism on race on the UK. UK race relations are nothing like the US. There’s a lot more social mixing in UK than in the US. The main dividing line in UK is class, not race. Have you ever considered that women sometimes bang other people not because they’re exotic but because of other features, such as the guy has got game and/or she likes his style?

This is very true, Brtish-Jamacians have the longest roots among immigrants in the UK, as many can trace back four generations now.

The UK is far from ideal but I have always felt they view race correctly. Basically as a meaningless thing because as you have notice your CLASSS STANDINGS affect you more and the women and opportunities you have access to.

Americans typically view themselves as one fluid class. They poll Americans and most belief they are middle class even if they are to poor or make to much money to be in that bracket. This disconnect from class means that they are able to be divided more easily by race which has no barring on social and class standings.

[speakeasy]

(05-05-2014 02:57 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 11:47 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Although the culture of the UK and America is indeed very different, you should also realize that mass immigration has just happened in the UK within the last 20 years.

This means that up until recently, most UK women never had the chance to date foreign men. Thus it's easy now because of the novelty.

However, in time, once the white women who enjoy foreign men run out, the UK's difficulty for non-white men to get white women will increase until it reaches the US levels or more. This is because eventually the only white women left will be the ones who prefer their own (i.e. white men).

Same thing happened in many Asian countries in regards to white men, such as South Korea. Used to be much easier for a white guy to get laid there, but after about 70 years of military occupation white guys no longer have that exotic appeal.

Incorrect, mass immigration of non-whites began into the UK with the MV Empire Windrush ship from Jamaica in 1948. Indians & Pakistanis came in the 1950s & 60s. Bangladeshis came in the 1970/80s.
I haven’t even mentioned the large numbers of Africans and people from the Middle East.

I totally disagree with the way you think – you’re putting an American prism on race on the UK. UK race relations are nothing like the US. There’s a lot more social mixing in UK than in the US. The main dividing line in UK is class, not race. Have you ever considered that women sometimes bang other people not because they’re exotic but because of other features, such as the guy has got game and/or she likes his style?

@Samseau, in a different thread you recently downplayed the importance of travel and actually experiencing countries abroad. The retort above is an example of the type of insight you gain by immersion.

[Samseau]

(05-05-2014 02:57 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 11:47 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Although the culture of the UK and America is indeed very different, you should also realize that mass immigration has just happened in the UK within the last 20 years.

This means that up until recently, most UK women never had the chance to date foreign men. Thus it's easy now because of the novelty.

However, in time, once the white women who enjoy foreign men run out, the UK's difficulty for non-white men to get white women will increase until it reaches the US levels or more. This is because eventually the only white women left will be the ones who prefer their own (i.e. white men).

Same thing happened in many Asian countries in regards to white men, such as South Korea. Used to be much easier for a white guy to get laid there, but after about 70 years of military occupation white guys no longer have that exotic appeal.

Incorrect, mass immigration of non-whites began into the UK with the MV Empire Windrush ship from Jamaica in 1948. Indians & Pakistanis came in the 1950s & 60s. Bangladeshis came in the 1970/80s.
I haven’t even mentioned the large numbers of Africans and people from the Middle East.

Quite literally every source I checked confirms you are wrong. Mass immigration started around 1990 in GB and picked up the pace in 2001.

That will be 25 years in 2015.

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I totally disagree with the way you think – you’re putting an American prism on race on the UK. UK race relations are nothing like the US. There’s a lot more social mixing in UK than in the US. The main dividing line in UK is class, not race. Have you ever considered that women sometimes bang other people not because they’re exotic but because of other features, such as the guy has got game and/or she likes his style?

Have you ever considered that races wouldn't exist if there wasn't deep sexual selection factors at work for one's own race?

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@Samseau, in a different thread you recently downplayed the importance of travel and actually experiencing countries abroad. The retort above is an example of the type of insight you gain by immersion.

What insights did I gain?

By the way - I've been to London. I've had many friends from the UK as well (all white, for full disclosure).

[Foolsgo1d]

You'll find mass immigration gained steam when Labour was voted into power. It is not a new concept.

It is well known our generous benefits system could be taken advantage of and they could not get rid of you based on many things such as having a spouse here or children born in the UK.

These loopholes have been restricted or removed but mass immigration did start as a result of Labours meddling from the late 90s to the mid 2000s.

[speakeasy]

(05-05-2014 07:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Have you ever considered that races wouldn't exist if there wasn't deep sexual selection factors at work for one's own race?

Races exist because when homo sapiens left Africa* there were still very few people on the planet and there was lots of room to spread around and live in geographic isolation. With this wide dispersal and thousands of years of isolation, people started developing different phenotypes shaped by the climate. As the population grew and different people began encountering each other, mixing happened. Basically everywhere that races collided there was mixing. European homo sapiens mixing with Neanderthals, Arabs mixing with Sub-saharan Africans in the horn(which is why they have Caucasian features), Euro-Asian mixes in the -istan countries between Russia, China and India. Mestizos throughout Latin America. I think unless there is some strong taboo or anti-miscegenation laws, people will pretty much fuck each other into hybrids anywhere two groups co-exist for long enough.


* And please don't post that link again where you claim homo sapiens didn't originate from Africa. That's been debunked multiple times now.

[WalterBlack]

(05-05-2014 07:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 02:57 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 11:47 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Although the culture of the UK and America is indeed very different, you should also realize that mass immigration has just happened in the UK within the last 20 years.

This means that up until recently, most UK women never had the chance to date foreign men. Thus it's easy now because of the novelty.

However, in time, once the white women who enjoy foreign men run out, the UK's difficulty for non-white men to get white women will increase until it reaches the US levels or more. This is because eventually the only white women left will be the ones who prefer their own (i.e. white men).

Same thing happened in many Asian countries in regards to white men, such as South Korea. Used to be much easier for a white guy to get laid there, but after about 70 years of military occupation white guys no longer have that exotic appeal.

Incorrect, mass immigration of non-whites began into the UK with the MV Empire Windrush ship from Jamaica in 1948. Indians & Pakistanis came in the 1950s & 60s. Bangladeshis came in the 1970/80s.
I haven’t even mentioned the large numbers of Africans and people from the Middle East.

Quite literally every source I checked confirms you are wrong. Mass immigration started around 1990 in GB and picked up the pace in 2001.

That will be 25 years in 2015.

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I totally disagree with the way you think – you’re putting an American prism on race on the UK. UK race relations are nothing like the US. There’s a lot more social mixing in UK than in the US. The main dividing line in UK is class, not race. Have you ever considered that women sometimes bang other people not because they’re exotic but because of other features, such as the guy has got game and/or she likes his style?

Have you ever considered that races wouldn't exist if there wasn't deep sexual selection factors at work for one's own race?

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@Samseau, in a different thread you recently downplayed the importance of travel and actually experiencing countries abroad. The retort above is an example of the type of insight you gain by immersion.

What insights did I gain?

By the way - I've been to London. I've had many friends from the UK as well (all white, for full disclosure).

Most of the immigration from the 90’s onwards was mostly Eastern European. There’s been large numbers of non-whites in UK since the 1950s. The largest ethnic groups (Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Black) arrived in the UK before the 1990s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_grou...ty_results

[Samseau]

(05-05-2014 07:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 07:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Have you ever considered that races wouldn't exist if there wasn't deep sexual selection factors at work for one's own race?

Races exist because when homo sapiens left Africa* there were still very few people on the planet and there was lots of room to spread around and live in geographic isolation. With this wide dispersal and thousands of years of isolation, people started developing different phenotypes shaped by the climate. As the population grew and different people began encountering each other, mixing happened. Basically everywhere that races collided there was mixing. European homo sapiens mixing with Neanderthals, Arabs mixing with Sub-saharan Africans in the horn(which is why they have Caucasian features), Euro-Asian mixes in the -istan countries between Russia, China and India. Mestizos throughout Latin America. I think unless there is some strong taboo or anti-miscegenation laws, people will pretty much fuck each other into hybrids anywhere two groups co-exist for long enough.

I never claimed race mixing wouldn't occur, but that races wouldn't exist without deep seated ingrained sexual preferences.

Vast majority of historical race mixing was the result of war. Left to their own devices most humans procreate with people similar to themselves.

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* And please don't post that link again where you claim homo sapiens didn't originate from Africa. That's been debunked multiple times now.

You've debunked Wikipedia?

[speakeasy]

(05-06-2014 02:05 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 07:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 07:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Have you ever considered that races wouldn't exist if there wasn't deep sexual selection factors at work for one's own race?

Races exist because when homo sapiens left Africa* there were still very few people on the planet and there was lots of room to spread around and live in geographic isolation. With this wide dispersal and thousands of years of isolation, people started developing different phenotypes shaped by the climate. As the population grew and different people began encountering each other, mixing happened. Basically everywhere that races collided there was mixing. European homo sapiens mixing with Neanderthals, Arabs mixing with Sub-saharan Africans in the horn(which is why they have Caucasian features), Euro-Asian mixes in the -istan countries between Russia, China and India. Mestizos throughout Latin America. I think unless there is some strong taboo or anti-miscegenation laws, people will pretty much fuck each other into hybrids anywhere two groups co-exist for long enough.

I never claimed race mixing wouldn't occur, but that races wouldn't exist without deep seated ingrained sexual preferences.

Vast majority of historical race mixing was the result of war. Left to their own devices most humans procreate with people similar to themselves.

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* And please don't post that link again where you claim homo sapiens didn't originate from Africa. That's been debunked multiple times now.

You've debunked Wikipedia?

There is little evidence for what you say, but no matter what I guess you will keep believing it anyhow. Once again, the reason for distinct phenotypes is primarily due to geographic isolation where there is little opportunity to breed out. A Japanese living in Japan has few opportunities to mix when your nation is 99% Japanese. Even if there were zero preferences in breeding, races would still exist because the world is huge and people spread out all over the place and lived in isolation from each other long enough to have few opportunities to mix. And where there were actually opportunities to mix, that's what happened.

I'm not saying that people don't have in-groups preferences. I'm saying that preferences aren't the reason different races evolved. 20,000 years ago there was no rapid transit or "global community". You may have spent your entire life confined to some small valley that you hunted and weren't even aware that there were people on the other side of the planet that looked completely different from you.

In-group preferences to the extent that they exist aren't strong enough to stop intermixing over time when two distinct groups occupy the same territory. Usually the smaller of the groups will be eventually absorbed into the greater population, which is why there are very few pure blood Native Americans left in the US. It's the reason why you and I have traces of Neanderthal DNA in our blood. As ugly as Neanderthal women were, our European ancestors still wanted to fuck them. Without Jim Crow, apartheid or strong racialist ideology no groups that live in the same territory are going to remain pure forever. It's just the way it is. The historical examples are endless.

[Samseau]

(05-06-2014 04:39 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Without Jim Crow, apartheid or strong racialist ideology no groups that live in the same territory are going to remain pure forever. It's just the way it is. The historical examples are endless.

Except the historical examples work against you over and over.

Why do whites continue to exist in the middle east despite being surrounded by non-whites?

Why do there exist white turks?

How about white Brazilians?

Why are there significant genetic differences between the many European cultures despite being within proximity of each other?

What about diaspora groups like the Jews or Armenians?

You're still not seeing the big picture, Speakeasy. It's not merely proximity that matters. Ingrained sexual preferences are king. The reason the neanderthals died out was probably because the men were killed off or marginalized so the women bred into the stronger non-neanderthal races.

The same thing happened with Native Americans. The men were marginalized or killed off while the women shacked up the stronger men.

If things are left to their own devices without any warfare or political interference, the amount of mixing that occurs in the long run is quite small relative to the total population size.

I know a lot of guys like to believe in the ever pervasive myth of racism to explain sexual preferences, but it just doesn't pass Occam's Razor. There are far simpler and easier explanations than giant social conspiracies against one race or another.

Regardless I understand we won't come to agreement on this issue, and that's fine. These questions will be resolved in our lifetimes so there's no need to argue endlessly. But I stand by the thesis I present above because it most closely matches the facts, and the validity of this theory will bear the test of time.

[Samseau]

Thus, if I were a Black man looking to hit up non-Black women, I'd definitely go where fewer Black men have gone for the aforementioned reasons.

[speakeasy]

(05-06-2014 05:03 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Except the historical examples work against you over and over.

Why do whites continue to exist in the middle east despite being surrounded by non-whites?

I'm not sure how many whites exist in the middle east(I'm assuming you're referring to native Middle Easterners with European features as opposed to Europeans that moved to places in Middle East for work). There are a few things I'd have to know, is the white population of the ME shrinking or growing? Just because there are whites there doesn't make your case, because if there were many more in the past that would assume that they are being absorbed into a browner population. And even when people do mix, you will still get a range of colors. I have every skin color in my family from the spectrum, from virtual white to nearly African dark.

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Why do there exist white turks?

I haven't seen many. Most Turks I've met are swarthy.

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How about white Brazilians?

The dynamic in Brazil is the same as in America. They come from a legacy of slavery where whites are at the top and blacks and Indians at the bottom and a range of classifications in between. As I said before, you can't really look at societies where there is a legacy of slavery, segregation, apartheid or where there was an enforced system of racial hierarchy. I already said that those are the only societies where races will remain distinct over long periods of time. Brazil fits in with that.

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Why are there significant genetic differences between the many European cultures despite being within proximity of each other?

How can there be genetic differences between cultures? I think you meant European ethnicities. Because they have borders. And you are most likely to mate with people who live within a certain radius. And who speak the same language and have the same religion. However if an Italian guy moves to Poland and learns Polish, he will probably end up marrying a Polish woman. Shit, you could say the same for an African guy for that matter.

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What about diaspora groups like the Jews or Armenians?

There used to be way more Jews. Many of them are marrying gentiles, especially as they become more secular. As I think about the Jews I know(the secular Jews), I'd say half at least are in relationships with non-Jews. I don't know all that much about Armenians, but if the Kardashians are any indicator we see where they're headed.

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If things are left to their own devices without any warfare or political interference, the amount of mixing that occurs in the long run is quite small relative to the total population size.

Every census stat I see shows that the number of mixed-race people in the US is growing. I don't see this trend stopping. Over time the number of people who can claim to be "pure" race will become a gradually smaller percentage of the population. It won't happen over night, but looking at demographic trends, it's inevitable. In California, I know TONS of mixed-race couples/marriages of all varieties. I don't' see it here in the south as much as I did out there, but California tends to be a leading indicator of things to come for the nation at large, such as now whites officially being a minority in California. I'm not saying that's good or bad, I'm just saying that's what it is.

I just got curious about this and went down the contact list in my phone. I then realized the majority of my friends are dating outside their race. I'm talking all types of matches.

[Samseau]

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There are a few things I'd have to know, is the white population of the ME shrinking or growing? Just because there are whites there doesn't make your case, because if there were many more in the past that would assume that they are being absorbed into a browner population. And even when people do mix, you will still get a range of colors. I have every skin color in my family from the spectrum, from virtual white to nearly African dark.

Middle East's white population is shrinking. Used to be Christian. But Muslims have been killing them off for centuries. Some of it gets absorbed, but most of the whites were victims of violence. Even many more whites emigrated out of there.

But the fact remains there are still pockets of whites in the middle east due to sexual selection factors.

Also, keep in mind that white genes are recessive, which means they will never die out. Recessive genes are carried on dominant genes, and any time two recessive carriers meet (either pure-breed or mixed) then the chances for a pure-breed recessive phenotype exist. And also remember that when this happens, the dominant genes are bred out, in many cases permanently. However this process takes so long that full blown recessive populations do not simultaneously emerge out of dominant populations.

Case in point with Turkey:







Yet these few splashes of white are of course out-numbered by the rest:



I think Turkey is a great example of how recessive genes continue to exist no matter what, coupled with men's preferences for fair skinned women resulting in millions upon millions of white phenotype carriers. Over a trillion years, everyone would eventually become white. (if the human race even exists for that long)

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There used to be way more Jews. Many of them are marrying gentiles, especially as they become more secular. As I think about the Jews I know(the secular Jews), I'd say half at least are in relationships with non-Jews. I don't know all that much about Armenians, but if the Kardashians are any indicator we see where they're headed.

Jewish population has been steadily increasing since WW2:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...ewpop.html

As for the Armenians... probably most will breed out but Armenia still exists as a country so a core group will remain. Regardless I believe Armenians show that even when scattered the tendency to outbreed is quite small and takes dozens, if not hundreds, of generations to occur. And they never breed out completely.

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Every census stat I see shows that the number of mixed-race people in the US is growing. I don't see this trend stopping. Over time the number of people who can claim to be "pure" race will become a gradually smaller percentage of the population.

Remember, these stats suffer from bad definitions. "Pure" race is mostly bullshit. It's easy for anyone to become pure race within just a few generations.

Remember, recessive genes breed out dominant genes.

So if you're a black man and have a white wife, and then your sons do the same thing and get another white wife, the chances of your grandkids being "pure white" are at 75% or higher. The amount of black in those grandkids will only be the recessive black traits (I do not know what these traits are, but surely some must exist), while the dominant black traits are gone forever.

This fact of genetics really trips over most people for a loop. White nationalists don't understand how white genes aren't lost when they breed with non-whites, and people who breed with whites don't understand they are removing their non-white heritage forever.

When you see a person with mocha colored skin, that's just a reflection of their carrier status of white genes. Skin color is interesting because it reflects the dominant phenotype of the person's DNA, in addition to their carrier status.

So if a man looks mostly black he is indeed a black man, despite his mocha skin. Thus it makes sense that Obama calls himself a black man, because black traits are dominant over white traits.

However, had Obama married a white woman, his kids would have mostly been white and many of the black features their father had would have been erased.

Anyhow, the main reason California is becoming less white isn't because of race mixing, it's because of the huge number of white female spinsters. What's ironic is that the white men and women who interbreed with other races are actually doing far more to preserve the white race than the spinsters, given the nature of white being recessive.

That said, I still expect to see pockets of whites in California for a very long time to come, due to sexual selection preferences. The main reason for the white die-off isn't due to mixing, but feminism and careerism (same thing I guess).

And I agree that many historical factors keep the races separated in the USA, but even if those factors weren't there I'd still expect to see pockets of pure-breeds no matter what.

[WalterBlack]

^^^^

What you classify as "white", isn't considered white in UK. Over there, to be white you have to be a WASP. Even Irish and other Europeans are considered ethnic minorities.

[Samseau]

(05-06-2014 08:52 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

^^^^

What you classify as "white", isn't considered white in UK. Over there, to be white you have to be a WASP. Even Irish and other Europeans are considered ethnic minorities.

There are different breeds of white. The two most common are Mediterranean white and Nordic white, but I already can imagine more breeds emerging in the future. Namely, the "Latin White," that has emerged in South America and is spreading through Mexico into North America.

Even though it's not the same WASPy look I am sure it is white by any DNA measure. I wish this could be verified but God knows how taboo this subject is, which prevents scientific inquiry.

[Foolsgo1d]

If we're on about race mixing, I am fascinated with claims that Genghis Khan has his genes in a good number of the current population today where his empire existed.

He had access to most of the different races of people back in his time through conquest, did this have long term effects outside of Mongolia?

[Samseau]

(05-07-2014 07:30 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

He had access to most of the different races of people back in his time through conquest, did this have long term effects outside of Mongolia?

Huge. A great example is why Russians look slightly different from most Europeans, because they were conquered by the Mongols. It's also probably why they are a bit more warlike. That Mongol warrior blood

[kdolo]

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There are different breeds of white. The two most common are Mediterranean white and Nordic white, but I already can imagine more breeds emerging in the future. Namely, the "Latin White," that has emerged in South America and is spreading through Mexico into North America.
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well it all depends on how you define "white"......

it can be argued that Mediterranean types are "mulattoes".... and "Latin Whites" are variants of mulattoe and mestizo.

[kosko]

Lol @ "Latin white" this ain't a breed, it is what is... It's Germans whom came of a boat and started chilling in Uruguay, Argentina, and Brazil and proceeded like they do everywhere to intact Cockblock laws to handcuff the majority
native population with unfair laws. From Australia, Canada, and any place in between.

A better example would be Lebanon which has a sizable "white/Caucasian/Euro-background" population, as does Syrian also.

Some German with a tan ain't make then Not European. That is a cultural thing not ethnic. The whole "Latin" thing is hodge lodge to begin with. It's a diverse continent for sure but there tons of whites with European blood whom would be offended if you called then anything but white and European

[Foolsgo1d]

(05-07-2014 07:33 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 07:30 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

He had access to most of the different races of people back in his time through conquest, did this have long term effects outside of Mongolia?

Huge. A great example is why Russians look slightly different from most Europeans, because they were conquered by the Mongols. It's also probably why they are a bit more warlike. That Mongol warrior blood

Has anyone tried to game in Mongolia?

The history interests me and I plan on visiting.