[speakeasy]

(10-22-2012 09:11 AM)southeastbeast87 Wrote:  

If you don't me asking, where do you stay at speakeasy? And is it mainly white women where you at?

An LA suburb. Kind of a mix of everything around here but I'd say black women are only a couple percent of the local demographic. Mostly whites and Hispanics more than anything.

[Moma]

(10-22-2012 10:29 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

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Black women in America, I assume, should be a lot easier.

You've never banged a black woman in America? What? Don't you live in America now?

I just moved here. Where I am at, Hispanics make a huge majority.

[New Edition]

(10-22-2012 10:41 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(10-22-2012 09:11 AM)southeastbeast87 Wrote:  

If you don't me asking, where do you stay at speakeasy? And is it mainly white women where you at?

An LA suburb. Kind of a mix of everything around here but I'd say black women are only a couple percent of the local demographic. Mostly whites and Hispanics more than anything.

I got you. You doing well out there with the ladies? I have never been to LA. I always wanted to go.

[speakeasy]

(10-22-2012 10:58 AM)southeastbeast87 Wrote:  

(10-22-2012 10:41 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(10-22-2012 09:11 AM)southeastbeast87 Wrote:  

If you don't me asking, where do you stay at speakeasy? And is it mainly white women where you at?

An LA suburb. Kind of a mix of everything around here but I'd say black women are only a couple percent of the local demographic. Mostly whites and Hispanics more than anything.

I got you. You doing well out there with the ladies? I have never been to LA. I always wanted to go.

I'm doing okay. I don't think it's worth coming here solely for the women. There are too many places that'll give you more bang for your buck if you're looking for good logistics and easy kills. Vegas for example.

[NoBalls]

(10-10-2012 09:44 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

A couple of weeks ago, me and a good friend of mine caught the Ravens/Browns Thursday night game at an after-work spot called Taj on West 21st street in NYC. It was a strictly black crowd (a couple of white girls showed up late, when the game was almost over and the crowd had left), and probably 30-something and up. I got there first, and looked around. I'm not exaggerating, but the ONLY pretty, slim, shapely women in the spot worked there. Everyone else was somewhat overweight or sloppy. Even the handful of legitimately pretty girls were just in poor shape - shapeless, toneless bodies. I've never been in a spot that was that bad talent-wise. Ever. And I've gone to my share of predominantly black get-togethers. My boy showed up with a good friend and her cousin that were in town for work. My boy warned me about her, in that she's one of those sisters that hates on brothers that date non-black women. The problem is, she can't legitimately have that discussion being as fat as she is. She needed to drop 30 (at least) before revisiting that particular discussion. Her cousin was fat too.

I really don't think that this is a racial thing. I live in NYC and college educated professional black women are no fatter on average than college educated professional white women in NYC.

In my opinion, people at lower incomes generally eat more processed artificial crap that destroys their body over time and ruins their metabolism. The main problem is that processed food is really really cheap. But a diet of good meats, vegetables, fruits, grains, etc... without artificial crap is lot more expensive.

Here is an article that correlates obesity with income:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...163807.htm

Also, it seems like college educated professionals in NYC generally date each other and hang out with each other regardless of race in NYC. This has been what I noticed meeting lots and lots of people through cold approaching over the years.

[New Edition]

(10-22-2012 11:20 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(10-22-2012 10:58 AM)southeastbeast87 Wrote:  

(10-22-2012 10:41 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(10-22-2012 09:11 AM)southeastbeast87 Wrote:  

If you don't me asking, where do you stay at speakeasy? And is it mainly white women where you at?

An LA suburb. Kind of a mix of everything around here but I'd say black women are only a couple percent of the local demographic. Mostly whites and Hispanics more than anything.

I got you. You doing well out there with the ladies? I have never been to LA. I always wanted to go.

I'm doing okay. I don't think it's worth coming here solely for the women. There are too many places that'll give you more bang for your buck if you're looking for good logistics and easy kills. Vegas for example.

I got you. Thanks for the tip. I always wanted to go to LA just for the experience though.

[ghostdog]

preach

[Adam Michaels]

As a half black male in America, I appreciate this thread.

Ive been hanging out with a lot of international women, and my idea of what I like color wise has changed a lot.

When I was younger I just thought I wasnt attracted to black women. But then I started meeting nice, sweet, feminine black girls from Africa and the Carribean/Latin America and I was all about them. It really is like this thread/videos was saying.

Your average black American women has attitude, is loud, out of shape, yells at men, ect. To sum that up, she is the OPPOSITE OF FEMININE.

Im half black and half asian, educated, and am "good looking", so I had a very small hurdle to jump over when dating white women. I would get hate from blacks for always choosing white women, but the white women were nicer to me/treated me better.

I'm just happy this information is getting out. Im only 25, but in the last 5 years, times have changed. Like what was said, the entitlement/attitude/out of shape/finger-snapping was once only reserved for black women. White american women were still "acting right".

But now even the white women are trippin. Luckily I got in with the International crowd in college and never turned back. I just wanna give this thread credit for showing the entitlement/attitude/out of shapeness that was once a negative stereotype of black american women has in the last 5 years quickly crossed over to white american women as well.

I just wonder when White American Women will get the same negative stereotype by the public as Black American Women since they now act exactly the same.

[UrbanNerd]

What DoctorWho said is right on point. Even when I was able to bang the so-called better-looking black women, for some reason, I "deducted points" from her if she had a kid by someone who was no good. Now having a kid by her husband and he left her a widow did not bother me (hey, he was a cop...that happens) but when your kid's father is doing 10-25 and has a GED and you already had master's degrees when you met him.....I just could not get around that.

Oh yes, I banged...but I would also think about the possibility of past guys trying (probably in a nice way) and being turned away.

[Joga Bonito]

While I agree with many of the sentiments here, it seems like the endgame always results in black women and men ultimately being together. Black men may be more desirable by other races of women relative to the value of black women and other races in the short term, but in the end the black man is going to marry the black women overwhelmingly. This is probably due to societal norms as much as anything. Having lived in the KCMO metro area before(which ranks highly as region for interracial marriage and dating at 4%), I never got the sense that black men were rejecting black women outright, as much as being curious to mingle with women of other races. Even then, very few that I knew were engaging in interracial relationships with white women, latinas or asians of high quality. The internet tends to have this subject air on the side of hyperbole rather than reality, as many of my black friends and associates prefer black women.Lastly, in relation to the video,these guys are clearly doing P4P in Brazil, so their experience has to be taken with a grain of salt, since they are usually dealing with working girls. These guys might actually be the simps many guys on this very forum talk about when they say places like Rio have been ruined. I do however see their overall point, as my experience with black women has often been negative one described in this thread(albeit with alot of positive experiences too).It's all dependent on the chick. Black women are tough no doubt, but lets not kid ourselves women from other races are not necessarily rushing to be in LTRs or marriages with black men.

[Excelsior]

(10-24-2012 11:03 PM)iWin Wrote:  

Black women are tough no doubt, but lets not kid ourselves women from other races are not necessarily rushing to be in LTRs or marriages with black men in the USA.

Thought I'd note this important caveat with a quick edit of the post above.

It is true that in the USA, the average black male doesn't have much value outside of his own racial group. IR dating isn't that easy in the USA, for reasons that have been gone into before (low economic value of black american males, demonization/fear of black males, incarceration, racism, etc-this could be a whole new thread, I'll leave it there).

The reality, however, is that things are not the same everywhere you go. If you're a black male dead set on dating interracially, there are more fertile grounds on which to do it.

[Menace]

This guy is pretty cool:

[rudebwoy]

(10-24-2012 11:35 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(10-24-2012 11:03 PM)iWin Wrote:  

Black women are tough no doubt, but lets not kid ourselves women from other races are not necessarily rushing to be in LTRs or marriages with black men in the USA.

Thought I'd note this important caveat with a quick edit of the post above.

It is true that in the USA, the average black male doesn't have much value outside of his own racial group. IR dating isn't that easy in the USA, for reasons that have been gone into before (low economic value of black american males, demonization/fear of black males, incarceration, racism, etc-this could be a whole new thread, I'll leave it there).

The reality, however, is that things are not the same everywhere you go. If you're a black male dead set on dating interracially, there are more fertile grounds on which to do it.

Truer words never spoken, the thought of these fertile grounds (Europe) keep me motivated to get out of North America.
In the long run I would love to be with a black woman, but I just don't seem to be able to connect with them.

[bkamurray]

(10-21-2012 10:54 PM)DoctaWho Wrote:  

The biggest problem for most black women is that they tend to make terrible dating decisions when they are younger and it bites them in the ass. There has been tons of research about black women in their 30s-40s who are single and feel that a quality black man is rare because many of the few that exists have chosen non black women. What these women tend to ignore is that they looked past most of these quality black men when they were in their 20s.

As a black guy I have had entire years where I have sworn off black women because of the way some of them have treated me. When I was in college most of the black women flocked to the frat guys and ball players. These guys tended to use up the chicks and discard them. Many of these same women then go on to date similar guys until they hit 30 or so and decide they want/need something more or their values change. For example, I've met black women in their late 30s who admit that when they were young they were more impressed by guys with flashy cars who recklessly spent money, but at their current age they value guys who have a history of being frugal. By this time many of them have had children and many quality black guys in their age range fall into two categories: 1)They know they are in demand so they don't settle down 2)They were smart enough not to wait and have already found someone.

Even in my early to mid twenties I found it hard to get close to some black women. Often when I would go out, it would be me in argyle and loafers and other black guys who were essentially wearing the stereotypes as snugly as skinny jeans. Guess who got the most play from most black women.

For some reason I also seem to hold black women to a higher standard, which means the slightest thing can be a deal breaker. For example, when one chick wanted to fuck to some little jon song that was ridiculously offensive to women I walked out on her.


I will say, and this is opinion, that I think if you pick the 10 hottest women of each hue that the darker ones would have the most beautiful features. I'm guessing that at least 70 of the 100 most beautiful women between 20 and 30 (based on actual physical features like size of nose in relation to face, waist to hip ratio...and not things like skin/eye/hair color) would be black or brown. If you up the age to 40+ then the number would probably shoot up to 80+ because darker women age better. The average black in America woman is not done in by a lack of beauty, but her attitude and early life dating preferences.

A good student can make a paper out of that observation. All of you however have missed out on smth,which IMO defines modern BW behaviour-testosterone. Ghetto,educated or average,Blatin,western or African they have more. It makes them hornier,stronger and faster while giving them more ass than anyone else. On the reverse side it gives low frustration tolerance and poor anger management
Unfortunately in your feminazified regions it explains the horrible youtube beatdowns. These hoes 'know' nobody can touch them ;til they piss off the wrong dude.

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Such displays will soon be normalised in the West wherever there are black women. In a world of female rights and privileges without corresponding responsibility and the usual women's atrophied amgydala and a climate that demands women to act out (be strong!) it would be surprising if it were otherwise.

http://karanjazplace.blogspot.com/2012/1...white.html

[jariel]

This is an interesting thread to me because the manosphere is mostly about white men rejecting white women, at least in terms of nationality, so to put a highlight particularly on this seems odd.

I think it's a shame that Black men and Black women can't connect more, but there are a lot of reasons for that, which at this point I just don't care to get into.

However, despite the disconnect, reality is Black men will never have anyone to connect with more than Black women.

My roots are what they are, but I still see myself as a Black person. I started having relationships with Black American women for the first time two years ago.

Sexually speaking, they are the best. Perhaps they're inherently built better to take what we have to offer, but they have an insatiable appetite for sex, that I think any man, who can keep up, can appreciate. They take pride in being able to have your ass curled up in the corner of the bed while sucking your thumb and contemplating what the fuck just happened.

What I found more that I could appreciate was my ability to talk to them about anything, especially the only types of things a Black man can speak to a Black woman about. We can not talk to non-Black women about the inherent issues we face as men in this Black-hating society. Unfortunately, when we do date "interracially", we either have to keep our mouths closed or be unconscious to those issues.

I've always seen myself ending up with a Black latina, but the only way that's going to happen is if she's a Monica Carrillo type -- perhaps my only reason for going to Peru -- black latinas have a problem in that they're too busy trying to be accepted instead of just accepting they are Black. Non-black latinos just look at us as "niggas who speak Spanish", and they'll never see us as anything else, and this is even more prevalent here in the U.S. where these convenient Latinos leave their black relatives behind to come live here as "whites".

Much is said about what women want, but I ask myself what is it that we want, especially those of us who are Black. A lot of the Black men on this site are what I would consider to be amongst the cream of the crop of Black men, but ultimately, it looks like we've created these lives for ourselves just to share them with anyone else who doesn't look like our mothers, grandmothers, etc.

All Blacks living in this Black hating society have issues, it's not just the women. We could talk about Black male suicide rates just as much as we talk about how obese Black women are, while being ignorant to the fact that Latinas are the fattest women in the country.

If we could start looking at why things are the way they are, we might be able to have better dialogue about these issues and perhaps find solutions.

Until then...

[CrazyBoy]

(12-04-2012 12:49 PM)jariel Wrote:  

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All Blacks living in this Black hating society have issues, it's not just the women. We could talk about Black male suicide rates just as much as we talk about how obese Black women are, while being ignorant to the fact that Latinas are the fattest women in the country.
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There are a LOT of HOT Mexican girls in LA with a 7.5+ face and a fat body that fucks it all up

I grew up in UK and it was a given there that black guys don't date black women. In my home town basically nearly every black guy was with a white girl or a mixed (black and white) girl.

I saw a documentary on the BBC a couple of years about how there's a lot of single black professional women in UK who can't find a black guy to date.

[speakeasy]

Jariel, I think you touched on some crucial issues. I think there are tons of issues between black men and women, a lot of self loathing and need for escape from blackness in societies where being black carries nothing but negative connotations outside of sports. It has really fucked us up in a lot of ways that we aren't even completely aware of. This forum isn't really the place to go deep into these matters, but I totally feel what you're saying.

[TheMachinist]

I love black women that love me just the way I am...unfortunately I have yet to find one...So I go where I'm wanted and appreciated.My experience as an African American in this country has been pretty unique to say the least.My mom re-married when I was young to a white man and I was raised in a pretty much white neighborhood.As a child I was attracted to black girls UNTIL the snickers and whispering started whenever my stepfather came to school.I quickly learned that the WORST racism I would ever experience would come at the hands of BLACK WOMEN.The comments and things I heard as a child stuck with me.I befriended people of all races and religions but for whatever reason the black girls coined me as the guy that only likes white girls.That couldn't have been further from the truth.I liked black girls they just would never give me the time of day.So far all practical intent and purposes FUCK BLACK WOMEN.Now that I'm older and making good $$$ them same bitches that used to talk about me wanna get with me.The thugs and hoods that they used to cream over are all either dead, locked up or otherwise living a fucked up existance.Now all of a sudden I'm worthy.To hell with em...most of em if they were on fire I wouldn't piss on em to put em out.

[Moma]

CrazyBoy dateline=' Wrote:  

There are a LOT of HOT Mexican girls in LA with a 7.5+ face and a fat body that fucks it all up

I grew up in UK and it was a given there that black guys don't date black women. In my home town basically nearly every black guy was with a white girl or a mixed (black and white) girl.

I saw a documentary on the BBC a couple of years about how there's a lot of single black professional women in UK who can't find a black guy to date.

What part of the UK did you grow up in?

[elabayarde]

Dude, you should work on your innerself.... All that anger is dangerous... for YOU. seriously.
It will eat away at you. I get like that also... because I had a thick accent as a kid(parents from other country)... So people would say... your black... but not real black. What ever the hell that means. My first fight was because a kid told me to STFU.. because noone can understand me anyway. Blackwomen(IN AMERICA) are just a hack... plain and simple. THey fall for the same dubm shit. So either you supply it or someone else will. Ill bang and treat like a retards if thats what they like. Im flexible

[Moma]

(12-04-2012 03:12 PM)elabayarde Wrote:  

Blackwomen(IN AMERICA) are just a hack... plain and simple. THey fall for the same dubm shit. So either you supply it or someone else will. Ill bang and treat like a retards if thats what they like. Im flexible

What's the hack? I was thinking of going out with some fake Brian Pumper ice and a durag. Will that suffice?

[Joga Bonito]

(12-04-2012 02:57 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

I love black women that love me just the way I am...unfortunately I have yet to find one...So I go where I'm wanted and appreciated.My experience as an African American in this country has been pretty unique to say the least.My mom re-married when I was young to a white man and I was raised in a pretty much white neighborhood.As a child I was attracted to black girls UNTIL the snickers and whispering started whenever my stepfather came to school.I quickly learned that the WORST racism I would ever experience would come at the hands of BLACK WOMEN.The comments and things I heard as a child stuck with me.I befriended people of all races and religions but for whatever reason the black girls coined me as the guy that only likes white girls.That couldn't have been further from the truth.I liked black girls they just would never give me the time of day.So far all practical intent and purposes FUCK BLACK WOMEN.Now that I'm older and making good $$$ them same bitches that used to talk about me wanna get with me.The thugs and hoods that they used to cream over are all either dead, locked up or otherwise living a fucked up existance.Now all of a sudden I'm worthy.To hell with em...most of em if they were on fire I wouldn't piss on em to put em out.

Geez man you're definitely talking to the wrong sisters

[pitt]

(12-04-2012 03:12 PM)Moma Wrote:  

CrazyBoy dateline=' Wrote:  

There are a LOT of HOT Mexican girls in LA with a 7.5+ face and a fat body that fucks it all up

I grew up in UK and it was a given there that black guys don't date black women. In my home town basically nearly every black guy was with a white girl or a mixed (black and white) girl.

I saw a documentary on the BBC a couple of years about how there's a lot of single black professional women in UK who can't find a black guy to date.

What part of the UK did you grow up in?

Yeah good question. What part of the UK this guy grew up in? This is non-sense.

The majority of british black cats i know wouldnt date outside their race. Im sure this guy is not talking about London.

[CrazyBoy]

(12-04-2012 03:34 PM)pitt Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 03:12 PM)Moma Wrote:  

CrazyBoy dateline=' Wrote:  

There are a LOT of HOT Mexican girls in LA with a 7.5+ face and a fat body that fucks it all up

I grew up in UK and it was a given there that black guys don't date black women. In my home town basically nearly every black guy was with a white girl or a mixed (black and white) girl.

I saw a documentary on the BBC a couple of years about how there's a lot of single black professional women in UK who can't find a black guy to date.

What part of the UK did you grow up in?

Yeah good question. What part of the UK this guy grew up in? This is non-sense.

The majority of british black cats i know wouldnt date outside their race. Im sure this guy is not talking about London.

I'm not talking about London - I grew up in Bedfordshire. There's not that many black people there, way more South Asians. The black guys that I knew - not one of them was with a black woman. The blacks were mostly of Jamaican heritage.

[46.]

(12-04-2012 03:12 PM)elabayarde Wrote:  

Dude, you should work on your innerself.... All that anger is dangerous... for YOU. seriously.
It will eat away at you. I get like that also... because I had a thick accent as a kid(parents from other country)... So people would say... your black... but not real black. What ever the hell that means.

Yup. Some of these issues can be tough and definitely affect relationships with women, via cultural expectations. I think the thing to remember is that Black Identity is constantly evolving. Racial makeup, upbringing, geography, attitudes, assimilation into the broader culture, and now globalization....all this stuff determines black identity.

I'm very proud of Black history in the US and our accomplishments, so it's worth noting that for 400 (fo' hunded) years, we've always been one monolithic group. This monolithic identity has historically served us well- i.e. sticking together through centuries of f---ed up s---, and advancing communities to the point where black poverty has fallen from 56% (1960) to 25% today. Not to mention the obvious incredible political and cultural gains.

The problem, however, is that this idea (honestly) is outdated as f---. We have too many choices, racial makeups, geographic origins, education levels, options etc. So many people cling to the "old" black ideas. (Example- I know people in Chicago who hated Obama when he was a State Senator because he didn't fit into "THE" box, and therefore not "black" enough for the South Side; basically got the Uncle Tom treatment in a Congressional race) An increasing number do not buy into the old black idea. This discrepancy can be a b----. Then what geographic part of the US you're in and yes, class, further exacerbate this. I've seen people "black" enough for the West Coast, not be "black" enough for some Eastern cities. And class with Buppie v. military, etc... Ridiculous @ss- s---. Everyone just wants to protect their turf and fit in wherever their box is on our complicated-@ss matrix of choices... and women want the "in" men in those boxes.

Anyway, just my thoughts. and lol at the rest of the country finally having to deal with the inflated self-esteem, attitude, financial requirements, and 147-point checklist on their ideal man we have to deal with...