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09-06-2012, 07:52 PM
Right, I've been teaching for about 10 years in seven countries, I've also worked it about 6 cities in China but feel free to fill in anything I may have missed. I have friends all over China and a pretty solid network to work with here. If any new guys are coming in I may be able to help you get setup.
It's fine if you like to stay in one place for an extended amount of time but I like to bounce around... If you stay in one place, like redneck says, you can meet people and start setting up privates. I hate doing extra leg work though and prefer that I have a steady income. When I want extra classes, my school sets them up for me at 150 to 180/class (45 min). We have little to no lesson prep and all adults. Once you know the materials, its easy to fill the 45 min block. For anything else
http://www.efl4u.com does the job.
Currently, I have 8 extras a week on top of my regular schedule. I'd rather just sit at an air conditioned school and do 5 classes in a row then have to travel across the city without getting paid for that time. We have couches and private rooms and I play PSP in my downtime or chat with the other teachers. I think I get a 1 hour break during my extra class days. We have a place down the street to eat for 10 kuay for lunch. If you still have the entrepreneurial spirit, go for it. I did the same thing you are talking about when I was 24, I had way more energy then and loved seeing the city (I was in Brazil)... now I'm lazy. I go in, do my thing and go home. My loyalty with the company pays off when I need to pull strings and one of the best things about the job is that you can accept free stuff from your students without worry. Having done my fair share of privates in other countries, I can tell you with 100% certainty that if you accept gifts or friendship from a student, that person will stop taking classes with you shortly after and your time will suddenly become 'friend time'. At a school I don't have to worry about that.
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09-07-2012, 04:47 AM
Quote: (09-06-2012 07:52 PM)BadWolf Wrote:
Right, I've been teaching for about 10 years in seven countries, I've also worked it about 6 cities in China but feel free to fill in anything I may have missed. I have friends all over China and a pretty solid network to work with here. If any new guys are coming in I may be able to help you get setup.
It's fine if you like to stay in one place for an extended amount of time but I like to bounce around... If you stay in one place, like redneck says, you can meet people and start setting up privates. I hate doing extra leg work though and prefer that I have a steady income. When I want extra classes, my school sets them up for me at 150 to 180/class (45 min). We have little to no lesson prep and all adults. Once you know the materials, its easy to fill the 45 min block. For anything else http://www.efl4u.com does the job.
Currently, I have 8 extras a week on top of my regular schedule. I'd rather just sit at an air conditioned school and do 5 classes in a row then have to travel across the city without getting paid for that time. We have couches and private rooms and I play PSP in my downtime or chat with the other teachers. I think I get a 1 hour break during my extra class days. We have a place down the street to eat for 10 kuay for lunch. If you still have the entrepreneurial spirit, go for it. I did the same thing you are talking about when I was 24, I had way more energy then and loved seeing the city (I was in Brazil)... now I'm lazy. I go in, do my thing and go home. My loyalty with the company pays off when I need to pull strings and one of the best things about the job is that you can accept free stuff from your students without worry. Having done my fair share of privates in other countries, I can tell you with 100% certainty that if you accept gifts or friendship from a student, that person will stop taking classes with you shortly after and your time will suddenly become 'friend time'. At a school I don't have to worry about that.
Badwolf, I just got my celta last month and started to apply for work. I did send my resume out to a few schools in China and they replied back that a B.A./B.S. is necessary in order to get a visa. Any way around this? I do appreciate your time.
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09-07-2012, 10:11 AM
Quote: (09-07-2012 04:47 AM)Ubietza Wrote:
Quote: (09-06-2012 07:52 PM)BadWolf Wrote:
Right, I've been teaching for about 10 years in seven countries, I've also worked it about 6 cities in China but feel free to fill in anything I may have missed. I have friends all over China and a pretty solid network to work with here. If any new guys are coming in I may be able to help you get setup.
It's fine if you like to stay in one place for an extended amount of time but I like to bounce around... If you stay in one place, like redneck says, you can meet people and start setting up privates. I hate doing extra leg work though and prefer that I have a steady income. When I want extra classes, my school sets them up for me at 150 to 180/class (45 min). We have little to no lesson prep and all adults. Once you know the materials, its easy to fill the 45 min block. For anything else http://www.efl4u.com does the job.
Currently, I have 8 extras a week on top of my regular schedule. I'd rather just sit at an air conditioned school and do 5 classes in a row then have to travel across the city without getting paid for that time. We have couches and private rooms and I play PSP in my downtime or chat with the other teachers. I think I get a 1 hour break during my extra class days. We have a place down the street to eat for 10 kuay for lunch. If you still have the entrepreneurial spirit, go for it. I did the same thing you are talking about when I was 24, I had way more energy then and loved seeing the city (I was in Brazil)... now I'm lazy. I go in, do my thing and go home. My loyalty with the company pays off when I need to pull strings and one of the best things about the job is that you can accept free stuff from your students without worry. Having done my fair share of privates in other countries, I can tell you with 100% certainty that if you accept gifts or friendship from a student, that person will stop taking classes with you shortly after and your time will suddenly become 'friend time'. At a school I don't have to worry about that.
Badwolf, I just got my celta last month and started to apply for work. I did send my resume out to a few schools in China and they replied back that a B.A./B.S. is necessary in order to get a visa. Any way around this? I do appreciate your time.
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09-07-2012, 10:56 AM
What did you mean about the accepting gifts thing? I didnt get that part - so they start giving you gifts, and try and angle for free tuition after that or something?
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09-07-2012, 11:10 AM
Students will always try and buy your time with free dinners and other garbage... if you are doing privates and accept, then they rarely, if ever, go back to paying you... Dinners are fvcking cheap, lessons are not. My boss in Brazil always told me, Fvck a student, lose a student. Words to live by.
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09-14-2012, 12:36 AM
Quote: (09-01-2012 08:03 PM)BadWolf Wrote:
All the girls seem to think that a half and half baby is the most beautiful thing ever.
Chinese guys come in 2 shades, the ones who treat the girls like sh1t and the super betas who are too scared to talk to them. Its like shooting fish in a barrell... The culture is made up of mostly 'gentlemen' who will wait several years to initiate sex because of 'tradition' while the foreign guys will be able to take it after just a day or two if they put in a little effort. The girls here are very receptive to sex and flirting while the guys are strangely NOT. The Chinese men seem to be very limited by their culture and traditions and it results in a lot of jealousy towards foreigners. Also an asian family must first approve of a woman for the son to date, its not simply a matter of seeing a girl you are attracted to. She has to match all of your parents expectations, for instance: there are millions of girls over 25 (too old to marry) and tons of poor girls (make less than 2500/month) who parents will simply NOT accept. Its sort of a business deal here and the woman must 'accept' the mother and father, the woman's family must agree to give money to the children during the wedding... all kinds of red tape. Men also live with their parents forever and listen to whatever they say. Women do this too until they meet a foreigner at which point they throw tradition to the wind.... it really pisses the Chinese off when they do this resulting in foreinger hate.
The chinese culture is very subservient and dependent on higher authority and extremely introverted whereas the western culture is very dominant, individualistic, creative and extroverted, so its a great mix. The girls are naturally attracted to us, even guys who are considered beta at home are alpha here. The culture here is also very VERY rude, where a guy will publicly blow his nose on the floor and rub it into the carpet... I have seen some sick sh1t like a homeless guy who ate his own cum infront of us after jerking off.. People hawk loogies everywhere, litter, have terrible hygenie, grow their nails very long, pick their nose infront of others and roll it into a ball.. pick their ears and roll the wax up. People spit everywhere, fart, piss and sh1t into trash bags, belch infront of you, cut in lines ahead of you and think nothing of it.
The girls really appreciate a guy who has a little western sophistication and the fact that we accept them no matter their financial situation, family background or age. The chinese society is incredibly materialistic and if you are from a poor family, the likelihood of you getting married is almost 0, even if you are absolutely beautiful. Women remain virgins in the North until they are 25 or 26... in the south they seem to only wait until 12 or 13, Cantonese and Mandarin have wildly different cultures.
I think its pretty natural to be attracted to something different. When I look at white girls now, I see ugly little trolls staring back at me... I could honestly never go back to them.
I hate to put this next thing, but its very true. Just a warning to any NON whites out there, Chinese can be extremely racist. They carry umbrellas with them so as not to tan their skin. They really don't like anything non-white and have no qualms about voicing their displeasure to your face... the south is much worse than the North for this and frequently I hear 'dirty-foreigner and white devil' comments from the men and old people when I'm with my wife. Japanese are big on black guys but Chinese bear alot of resentment towards them. I think its because there are so many africans flooding into China and dealing drugs.
I don't mean to paint a wonderful picture of life here... its not super great nor is it terrible. If you happen to be a white, male, heterosexual, native speaker, then likely there is a job and a woman here for you. This post is not meant to be racist, I'm just stating the truth.
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Good post! I've always thought China (and Japan) were cool countries, but I don't even know if I want to visit (not go hunting for girls) after reading so many stories about their white obsession and hatred towards everyone else. I ain't scared or anything like that, but it just turns me off.
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02-18-2013, 10:21 PM
Sorry, just reading through an old post, yeah thats right $3,200 bucks... its a country-side house but its 3 bedroom with a pool. He bought it to hold on to, they don't even live there. He has a mud blood daughter now and he bought it for her so if she can have something from the homeland to comeback to when they leave. I had a student offer to sell me his house in the country side (5 bedroom) for 30,000 a few months ago... I'm thinking about it now.
For anyone curious, I'm told foreigners can even own houses so if you are thinking of retiring or whatever, then its absolutely doable. You would have to be an 'off - the - grid' type person but its absolutely possible.
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02-20-2013, 10:49 AM
WHAT?! I could buy a damn house here?! My god... I could become a Chinese slum lord...
I've yet to experience any direct racism, though I have gotten the "foreign devil" thing from time to time. I thought being black here would be a serious mark against me, but so far I've had a better racial experience here than in America. I do have people yell, "Obama!" at me just about every other day but I can live with that. For the most part everyone thinks all black people look the same, I've been compared to Obama, Kobe, Denzel, and Will Smith's son. It's really weird because I'm really light skinned (I do look somewhat like Obama, but that guy has massive ears).
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02-21-2013, 04:35 PM
I wish I was remotely attracted to Chinese girls as it really is fish in a barrel if you're a half decent looking, educated white guy with some money. My two buddies live there as english teachers and clean up.
Unfortunately I don't find them remotely attractive tbh and I have met thousands in Asia and else where.
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02-26-2013, 10:44 PM
Does anyone know I'd Hong Kong is like this part of china?
