[WhoZis]

(08-29-2012 12:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I don't see this working with Polish or Ukrainian women. They don't like sharing their men because it will mean less resources/attention for them.

Are there bisexual women in the Ukraine or Poland?

[WhoZis]

(08-29-2012 10:23 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Just have kids with one of them and keep the rest around for sex. That's what guys usually do.
Plenty of hot latinas down there to fuck as well. Why would you want 3 full families?

I am astounded when people ask questions like that.

Me: "I'd like xxx"
Them: "Why would you want xxx??"

I guess maybe there IS some metaphysical "WHY" out there in the spacetime continuum someplace, but geez, why do you ask why?

Why would a guy want "full families" rather than screwing around on the sly?

I dunno.....

Backbone? Honor? Bareback sex? Likes kids?

Not a lying sneak?

[bacan]

I'm confused - why don't you have kids with your current colombian wife?

[WhoZis]

(08-29-2012 11:08 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 10:55 AM)Gaston Wrote:  

I think you are overestimating what you are offering. You are probably a mature previously married man with kids, who wants to isolate younger Euro babes and hole 'em up in a random Central American country and away from their friends, family, and larger community of their nationals. Does not matter how great the house is women don't live on that alone. They would die of boredom and lack of everything else. So called "good life" gets old fast (especially for European citizens) if it isn't accompanied by other just as important things for women ("true love", professional opportunities, proximity to family, exciting social life, etc.)

Exactly. I know plenty of Russian chicks who had good jobs in nice places in the U.S. and they still left the country because they could not stand being away from their families and friends. Besides, they found Americans boring.

Uh-hunh. And I know Russian chicks who love it over here.

And ohgee, Central America, don't they have drug cartels and donkeys?

Try Antigua Guatemala, or Cancun, or going further south, Punta del Este. Yes, I think a few FSU chicks would indeed be willing to fly there to check it out, once they've googled it.

And pretty funny to hear PUA's on RooshVForum suddenly demanding proof of "true love" from a guy who actually wants commitment and kids. A little pathetic.

[WhoZis]

I concur with the above posters that polygamy is not "in the DNA" of Polish girls. Yet SOMEHOW this guy managed to pull off very open polygamy in Catholic Peru.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6KEERJMZGk

Granted he did it with Latinas. Sure, EE will be tougher.

So?

Adventurous types? Bisexuals?

Hey, golddiggers need love too.

[WhoZis]

(09-01-2012 11:15 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

You haven't stopped to think about what a bunch of scorned, frustrated women might try to do to you, each other, and to your offspring?

A hundred thousand Christians and Mormons women living in polygamy here in America.

No mass shootings.

Relax.

[WhoZis]

(09-01-2012 12:23 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

I can see about a dozen Achilles' Heels in this plan (ex: dependence on upcoming economic hardship and subsequent exploitation of said challenges, distance, jealously, naturally emotional/irrational nature of women, etc) . Most have already been clearly and quite intelligently outlined by Gaston and others.

However, the largest pitfall of all is right here:

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

I'm only interested in having future kids with white women from eastern europe.

This plan has issues regardless of which group of women you choose to draw from, but choosing to focus on white women of any kind is about the most sure way to fail easily. White women hold themselves in far too high esteem (this due in part to the fact that half of the world puts them on a pedestal above all other women) and generally inhabit cultures far too focused and committed to monogamy to sign up for something like this.

I know of some white, western men in parts of southeast Asia and Africa who are actually living the life you dream of with women from those cultures. Were you to suggest trying to pull this in, say, the Philippines, I'd almost give it a shot of getting it done. Prior precedent exists.

But here you specifically want to build a harem filled with 18-24 year old white women in a land thousands of miles away from their continent (much less their Eastern European national homelands)? And they must be child-free? No way, it isn't happening. Not with those specifics.

If you're willing to budge on the Eastern European focus, then you could go somewhere (I'd suggest choosing another country too-this idea could be made more realistic if you were willing to do it IN Russia/Ukraine, which you're apparently not), but there is no way this plan will get going with a specific focus on white women making up your harem in Central America. You've chosen the specific kind of woman who is, far and above all others, the most likely to clash most severely with your ideas. They by themselves as a factor undermine the entire plan.

+1 to you and the other posters with POSITIVE things to say on this thread.

Yes, it can be done in Russia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeLhVNWRLwQ

[east and west]

ByFAR the most imaginitive and naive thread on this forum.
I'm going to give you $1,000 a month for 18 years ($225,000) just to stay home and watch the kids... you're telling me a Polish girl won't go for that offer today? Or in 2 years when the Polish economy is collapsed like the rest of Europe?

NO THEY will not take the offer. No way they will.theywi live. Not wealthy but they will live, just like everyone else.the russian and ukrainian girls i know who are looking for husband and be mother,200k usd for them is like pocket change.and they will not go to latin america
If your net worth is anything less hN 10 m usd forget about the idea. No wat. Even an apartment on cote azur cost this much.
You need to be having the wealth of bill gates or saudi sheiks. Or head to africa.

[Alexander]

I am looking at potentially marrying a Polish girl. I have had experience of dating Ukrainian women, and although very pretty and sweet, they are not very interesting, you can't talk to them about music, art, politics, nothing really.

Polish girls are much cooler(although significantly uglier), and chances are she will be able to earn her own cash.

I am planning to find a Polish women and live near Krakow in some of that beautiful woodland. Then I will of course have multiple younger girls to have fun with

[Big Nilla]

Had a good laugh when I finally realized this was my old thread. Polish females won't accept "the offer," it's beneath them, ok, I'll move on to females that will, big deal (if I still want to do this, mind isn't made up). Plenty of quality (by my standards) Colombians and Dominicans would take that hypothetical "offer." Wait, they're too jealous and proud, right?

Some of you guys seemed personally insulted at my "cheap offer" to Polish girls. Not sure if there was a PMS issue at the time or a need for some extra money to upgrade hostel rooms. I know it's a novel concept to let women know upfront you want kids with other women instead of going the "true player" ghetto route of just getting them all pregnant without telling them anything. Guys think this is a crazy idea... cool, I think being broke and stuck living a typical 9-5 single life in the USA is crazy.

[Wanderlust]

Which country's citizenship will you have after you give up US?

[WEDO]

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

I just want a lot of kids. Yep, I know about hot latinas... my wife is from Colombia. But with my wife and other Colombian women, conversations are off. I feel like I'm talking to a kid and can't have a serious conversation with them. It gets old. Same with Asian women. I get the sense that I'd click better with eastern European women based off what guys on here say about them and my experiences dating 2 of them in the USA. I'll save latinas for having fun.
Luvianka, thanks.

Have you tried running your offer by some Paisas......they are a whole different breed when it comes to Colombianas and business offers.....If you were going to get a Colombiana to take an offer like that....it would be a Paisa.

[Ovid]

Even assuming you found some girls who would be up for this, slavic beauties who have few prospects at home other than a boring marriage, who jump at the chance to enter this sort of contract with an exotic American living in a mansion/estate in Central America.... just because one of these girls agrees at first, does not mean she will continue to accept her circumstance, especially as she gets older. She might think it sounds acceptable in the beginning, but that will most likely change the moment she sees you with your arm around another woman. Her emotions will kick in, and she will want blood. When she's a depressed 24 year old she will be much less naive than when she was 17 or 18 and "desperate." Not to mention that 20 years is a very long time, in this global economy of today, and a Poland that's not doing so well in 2015 might be doing much better in 2018 or 2020. The girls will get tired of living together, knowing they're being shortchanged (they were raised to expect a man's undivided loyalty, after all) and would in all probability not stay for more than a year, let alone 20. If their beauty got one rich American to favor them, why could they not find another to provide for them and spirit them and their children away? The Polish women I have known have been very fiery when they don't like something, and they wouldn't like this arrangement because it's not part of their culture to do so. They might accept it pragmatically for a time (highly doubtful, but just maybe) but they would never love it. You're assuming with this scenario that women are like men: that they'll make a pragmatic, logical deal and stick to it. They won't.

Honestly, this sounds like a great way to end up in jail on trumped up charges of sex slavery, or with your nuts chopped off by a vengeful Polish woman, or dead after one of your concubines seduces the local chief of police and induces him to have you done in.

If you want a real harem with multiple wives/baby mamas, Southeast Asia with local girls is a much more realistic setting.

[Jaydublin]

Hmm maybe just run a brothel while knocking them up on the side

[Jaydublin]

(02-07-2013 11:48 AM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

I think being broke and stuck living a typical 9-5 single life in the USA is crazy.

And so does everybody else on this forum

[Big Nilla]

Wanderlust... Dominica. Waiting on my friend to finish his economic citizenship through Nevis. He's been having some problems.

Wedo... I don't have any experiences with Calenas except for some Americanized ones. Why don't you think they'd be a good target for this? If I did this with Colombians, I'd probably start looking in the Armenia-Pereira-Manizales belt... or do you think go straight to Medellin? If not there, then probably around Santiago, DR... or both.

Ovid... if they don't want to accept their circumstances after having 1 or more kids, that's cool. She'll be damaged goods and I'll have built in a level of dependence to me. Good luck to her... she'll also have 1 pissed off guy using all his power and money to make sure the kids don't go anywhere. She can go, who cares, but the kids stay. If not, she'll be made to suffer, even across borders. Screening is obviously key... and creating a certain status in the area we're in.

Jay... if everyone on this forum thinks being broke and stuck living a typical 9-5 single life in the USA is crazy, why are so many guys on this forum living that very "crazy" life? My subtle point... if they don't have the power or abilities to get out of that situation, then why are some of these people posting advice telling me all these reasons why they think I can't do something well beyond their own circumstances?

[WEDO]

(02-08-2013 02:31 AM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

Wedo... I don't have any experiences with Calenas except for some Americanized ones. Why don't you think they'd be a good target for this? If I did this with Colombians, I'd probably start looking in the Armenia-Pereira-Manizales belt... or do you think go straight to Medellin? If not there, then probably around Santiago, DR... or both.

I have a ton of experience with Calenas and was married to one for years. I don't think Calenas would be as open to what amounts to a very personal business relationship...unless they were very interested in you personally....which could complicate things....Paisas are much more business minded and open to looking at things without a lot of emotion.

If you start looking in Armenia you are going to find a lot of women that really want a man....I don't know what their reaction would be to this type of business relationship.....they only problem with going straight to Medellin is the women love that city and won't want to leave unless the price is right.

[Jaydublin]

(02-08-2013 02:31 AM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

Ovid... if they don't want to accept their circumstances after having 1 or more kids, that's cool. She'll be damaged goods and I'll have built in a level of dependence to me. Good luck to her... she'll also have 1 pissed off guy using all his power and money to make sure the kids don't go anywhere. She can go, who cares, but the kids stay. If not, she'll be made to suffer, even across borders.

This just sounds pretty fuxked up

[Jaydublin]

(02-08-2013 02:31 AM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

Jay... if everyone on this forum thinks being broke and stuck living a typical 9-5 single life in the USA is crazy, why are so many guys on this forum living that very "crazy" life? My subtle point... if they don't have the power or abilities to get out of that situation, then why are some of these people posting advice telling me all these reasons why they think I can't do something well beyond their own circumstances?

Not everyone can become an entrepreneur at the age of 18. I also wasn't aware that everyone here was stuck in a 9-5 but I could be wrong.


People didn't say you couldn't get multiple young foreign women pregnant and provide a decent life for them. I think people are saying that they aren't going to stick around forever. Maybe they will, I don't know. I guess nobody thought you planned to basically trap them into your life like a prisoner so now maybe everyone will agree that you can be successful with this

[east and west]

I think posts like this touches basic principles of morality. And also might cause lot of hate from media, newspapers, tv, etc including mainstream ones.

Most people in this world is educated to certain moral principles ( the Arabic world is slightly different). This doesn't mean that they have to stick to a 9-5 boring day job on a desk, many on this forum are entrepreneurs and have a lot of wealth, (there is even a lottery winner)and some may have been with many women). but what the post is saying is quite sensitive ti people in the western world.( in an Arabic country it might be more accepted)

[K-man]

What's in it for the girls man, I don't understand - $1000 a month? Can't she get that from some local schmoe whom she can marry?
We're not talking $5-10k per month here...

Some more issues:
1. If you get them at 20 and kick them out at 40, what will they do with the rest of their lives? Will the monthly stipend continue and will it be inflation-indexed? How are you going to make them trust you that you will make good on your offer?
2. Can you service several women sexually, while banging hot latinas on the side? If you have 3-4 30-yr olds and you are approaching 50 how is that going to work out without them wanting some extra cock and getting it from the gardener?

I also happen to think it's a fucked up idea which won't work.

[Jaydublin]

What happens when they get lonely and start getting knocked up by other dudes? Gonna raise those kids also? Or force abortions/adoptions?

[Big Nilla]

WEDO, thanks. If I do this, basically I do what you're doing and make it 10 times more complicated.

No clue Jay... maybe I'll just go ahead and fuck all those dudes in the asses. Afterall, if these women are going to be in my private "prison," I may as well give the guys a taste of prison life too. After that, I'm going to find the dudes' moms and sisters and force them into my harem.

K-man, this topic has gone from me getting answers to me doing the answering. Since no other guy reading this plans to do something similar, it's pointless to go on answering questions and give guys who wouldn't even dream about doing something like this a chance to snipe at every little thing. I'm not trying to convince guys of anything. They can think what they want. I don't care. If in 2 years I still want to do it, I'll do it.

[worldwidetraveler]

(02-09-2013 12:16 AM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

WEDO, thanks. If I do this, basically I do what you're doing and make it 10 times more complicated.

No clue Jay... maybe I'll just go ahead and fuck all those dudes in the asses. Afterall, if these women are going to be in my private "prison," I may as well give the guys a taste of prison life too. After that, I'm going to find the dudes' moms and sisters and force them into my harem.

K-man, this topic has gone from me getting answers to me doing the answering. Since no other guy reading this plans to do something similar, it's pointless to go on answering questions and give guys who wouldn't even dream about doing something like this a chance to snipe at every little thing. I'm not trying to convince guys of anything. They can think what they want. I don't care. If in 2 years I still want to do it, I'll do it.

Nilla, I say if it is something you want, they you should go after it. I don't understand the animosity you are getting. Hell, we are on a forum that goes against social norms yet some people are acting like you're running a human trafficking shop.

As for your plan, I don't see money being the key. I think you have to make the girl almost obsess over you, like a cult leader. That is what you're building, a baby making commune.

[Svara]

I think it's your whole strategy that has to be thought over again. Multiple live-in relationships are a great idea and I would have a lot of ideas to help you getting started with, but I just don't get the point with the children thing? Children are a waste of time and resources. You can do a lot of things in life, sexually and socially once you relinquish the primitive emotional attachment to women and especially to children. The more detached you are, the more opportunities it opens up.