[Aliblahba]

You'd be better off using your money to buy a trailer park in Mississippi, then move a bunch of section 8 sluts in, and start knocking them up. Then they get more money for having kids, and you'll start turning a profit.

Just make the sinks leak before they move in, and when they call you for repairs, show up with a tool belt and cut off jean shorts, and a 80's Harley tank top. Trailer trash girls love that shit.

[el mechanico]

(08-31-2012 08:52 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

You'd be better off using your money to buy a trailer park in Mississippi, then move a bunch of section 8 sluts in, and start knocking them up. Then they get more money for having kids, and you'll start turning a profit.

Just make the sinks leak before they move in, and when they call you for repairs, show up with a tool belt and cut off jean shorts, and a 80's Harley tank top. Trailer trash girls love that shit.

Well, when they figure out he has cash it's over. I say he buys a farm in the
DR where this deal would be very easy to pull off in the short term. Nilla you could even hire your own police force to take the kids to school and keep your ho's in check on the compound for pennies.

Build it and they will come! A baseball diamond on your farm. Like in the movie and some of the top Dominican talent will beg you to do this deal. You may even become a celeb down there for doing it.

I like your idea but adding the Polish or Ukraine girls into the mix is going to cause problems. You're going to have an extreme high amount of Drama anytime you have women involved and will probably wish you never did it.

Either way I would love to be a part of it if you ever need my help.

[tomtud]

Only one way to find out is to do it! Can't wait to read the results in a few years!!!

Financial needs you have covered. However if we dare go back to our favorite topic in social studies of maslows hierarchy of needs, well other problems will come about. What they are or how severe depends on the girls. We all hope for the best when we deal with women, but their thought processes as we all know is illogical.

Logical points of view have been made here. Some moreso than others. You can throw all that away when dealing with the hamster spinning illogical thinking women.

My advice is to speak to men who have married foreign women and sponsored them to come. There will be horror stories and pleasant ones.

What about child custody? Either way if you have a really good legal framework here you will always be suspicious of her if she will get some lawyer or court to overturn it and also risk kidnapping. Not worth the headache.

[Big Nilla]

(08-31-2012 09:20 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(08-31-2012 08:52 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Well, when they figure out he has cash it's over. I say he buys a farm in the
DR where this deal would be very easy to pull off in the short term. Nilla you could even hire your own police force to take the kids to school and keep your ho's in check on the compound for pennies.

Build it and they will come! A baseball diamond on your farm. Like in the movie and some of the top Dominican talent will beg you to do this deal. You may even become a celeb down there for doing it.

I like your idea but adding the Polish or Ukraine girls into the mix is going to cause problems. You're going to have an extreme high amount of Drama anytime you have women involved and will probably wish you never did it.

Either way I would love to be a part of it if you ever need my help.

If the DR didn't get hit with so many hurricanes I'd want to locate there over Panama. But DR chicks and living in the DR... that puts me in a weak position. But it's an option I'd consider with light-skinned Santiago girls. I do have my "Godfather Plan" for wherever I go. I'll use my money advantage to be "el jefe" and get in good with the local police and others. Do you think lower middle class light-skinned Santiago girls would go for this?

I still think in 2 years the economic pain in Poland/Ukraine will warm women up to this idea. Come with me and live the good life or starve and suffer. Basic survival and security are strong motivators. Their pride won't be so strong. Ex. Kamaki says Greek girls are loosening up already and that's before the collapse.

A baseball complex on or near my property will definitely happen. I'll be all about training my boys in baseball, MMA, and weightlifting. I remember what you said in another thread about you having kids with a Dominican. I have you in mind for all things DR.

When will you go to Santiago and do some serious recon work?

Rude,
I'm not religious.

Tomtud,
Yeah, the feedback on here doesn't scare me off of doing this. I just needed some cultural knowledge on Polish/Ukrainian/Russian women about how open they'd be to this. The financial incentives to them won't be an issue like some guys think. They just need to see where they'd be living and I could reframe the $1,000 a month to saying you're going to get $225,000 immediately after the first kid... and hold back the part where they only will be allowed $1,000 a month from it.

[el mechanico]

(08-31-2012 12:11 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

(08-31-2012 09:20 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(08-31-2012 08:52 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Well, when they figure out he has cash it's over. I say he buys a farm in the
DR where this deal would be very easy to pull off in the short term. Nilla you could even hire your own police force to take the kids to school and keep your ho's in check on the compound for pennies.

Build it and they will come! A baseball diamond on your farm. Like in the movie and some of the top Dominican talent will beg you to do this deal. You may even become a celeb down there for doing it.

I like your idea but adding the Polish or Ukraine girls into the mix is going to cause problems. You're going to have an extreme high amount of Drama anytime you have women involved and will probably wish you never did it.

Either way I would love to be a part of it if you ever need my help.

If the DR didn't get hit with so many hurricanes I'd want to locate there over Panama. But DR chicks and living in the DR... that puts me in a weak position. But it's an option I'd consider with light-skinned Santiago girls. I do have my "Godfather Plan" for wherever I go. I'll use my money advantage to be "el jefe" and get in good with the local police and others. Do you think lower middle class light-skinned Santiago girls would go for this?

I still think in 2 years the economic pain in Poland/Ukraine will warm women up to this idea. Come with me and live the good life or starve and suffer. Basic survival and security are strong motivators. Their pride won't be so strong. Ex. Kamaki says Greek girls are loosening up already and that's before the collapse.

A baseball complex on or near my property will definitely happen. I'll be all about training my boys in baseball, MMA, and weightlifting. I remember what you said in another thread about you having kids with a Dominican. I have you in mind for all things DR.

When will you go to Santiago and do some serious recon work?

Rude,
I'm not religious.

I'll be there again in the next couple months. I wouldn't worry about hurricanes too much inland because you're going to need a mack- daddy generator and water supply anyway. I'm not talking a Coleman from home depot here more like a Detroit diesel with 1000 gallon fuel tanks.

[polish rumble]

(08-31-2012 12:11 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

I still think in 2 years the economic pain in Poland/Ukraine will warm women up to this idea. Come with me and live the good life or starve and suffer. Basic survival and security are strong motivators. Their pride won't be so strong. Ex. Kamaki says Greek girls are loosening up already and that's before the collapse.

Economics are part of my work so I know a thing or two. You mean to tell me that America isn't collapsing at the very moment? You stared the crisis we are all suffering now. American Dream is gone.

You probably heard the rumours about Polish economy slowing down, it's true mainly bcuz of Germany our biggest import/export partner, they got problems cuz of billions pumped into Greece, 2nd reason is that the EURO2012 is over, such as most of investments which were helping us out through last couple of years. But the forecast for Poland is still considerably better than for the Western Europe, (+1% - +1,3% growth 2013/2014) so don't masturbate thinking of Polish women suddenly start starving in the near future.

And one last thing, todays economy has Global character, it means that if America is screwed, Europe sooner or later will be and vice versa.

If you really place hope in money, your pick should be Ukraine.

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Ex. Kamaki says Greek girls are loosening up already and that's before the collapse.

Current average wage is the biggest since 1989 when we got back our independence.

[Aliblahba]

^^^ Whatever. Poland will look like this next year after the upcoming massive economic Euro crash. Poles will be begging for Americans to bring their piggy banks to stimulate the economy. With $4.62 usd, I'll be a millionaire in Poland.

I'm already the highest bidder on this building for 20 cents. A little high, but I want to turn it into a whore house where girls run around nekkid and shoot each other with paintball guns.

   

[polish rumble]

Bro, did you just get mad?

[Aliblahba]

(08-31-2012 01:41 PM)polish rumble Wrote:  

Bro, did you just get mad?

Naaa. I'm just bored and thought I'd troll. Never trolled Poles before. Wasn't as exciting as I'd originally thought.

Well, carry on then.

[Excelsior]

I can see about a dozen Achilles' Heels in this plan (ex: dependence on upcoming economic hardship and subsequent exploitation of said challenges, distance, jealously, naturally emotional/irrational nature of women, etc) . Most have already been clearly and quite intelligently outlined by Gaston and others.

However, the largest pitfall of all is right here:

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

I'm only interested in having future kids with white women from eastern europe.

This plan has issues regardless of which group of women you choose to draw from, but choosing to focus on white women of any kind is about the most sure way to fail easily. White women hold themselves in far too high esteem (this due in part to the fact that half of the world puts them on a pedestal above all other women) and generally inhabit cultures far too focused and committed to monogamy to sign up for something like this.

I know of some white, western men in parts of southeast Asia and Africa who are actually living the life you dream of with women from those cultures. Were you to suggest trying to pull this in, say, the Philippines, I'd almost give it a shot of getting it done. Prior precedent exists.

But here you specifically want to build a harem filled with 18-24 year old white women in a land thousands of miles away from their continent (much less their Eastern European national homelands)? And they must be child-free? No way, it isn't happening. Not with those specifics.

If you're willing to budge on the Eastern European focus, then you could go somewhere (I'd suggest choosing another country too-this idea could be made more realistic if you were willing to do it IN Russia/Ukraine, which you're apparently not), but there is no way this plan will get going with a specific focus on white women making up your harem in Central America. You've chosen the specific kind of woman who is, far and above all others, the most likely to clash most severely with your ideas. They by themselves as a factor undermine the entire plan.

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Women are highly irrational... yeah, but it seems the eastern European ones are more calculating and logical.

ALL women are highly irrational. If you fail to acknowledge this and continue to use this faulty "Not-All-Women-Are-Like-That" mentality with women you have no experience with (Eastern European girls), you're going to have a very bad time. Eastern European girls may appear to use more logic than many western women do, but this does not make them any less prone to the irrationality that naturally inflicts ALL women. They are emotional creatures.
If you fail to realize this, these girls will just eat you alive before your plan gets off the ground.

Those are my two cents. Take them if you like, ignore them if you don't.

[Greek kamaki]

(08-31-2012 01:30 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

^^^ Whatever. Poland will look like this next year after the upcoming massive economic Euro crash. Poles will be begging for Americans to bring their piggy banks to stimulate the economy. With $4.62 usd, I'll be a millionaire in Poland.

I'm already the highest bidder on this building for 20 cents. A little high, but I want to turn it into a whore house where girls run around nekkid and shoot each other with paintball guns.

If crisis proceeds it is more likely that Stalin gets enthroned again in his house.

[Big Nilla]

Rumble,
Yeah, the USA is collapsing... hence why I'm getting out and getting rid of my citizenship. 2 years from now the Polish economy will be a lot worse than it is now, through no fault of their own. Guaranteed. Anyway, really not interested in turning this into an economics/politics discussion.

Athlone,
I'm not depending on upcoming hardships, that's just a bonus that'll make it easier for me. I'm depending on ME being me. I'll get what I want if I really want it. I can do it the easy and nice way or I can do it the hard take no prisoners way. If you guys prove to be right that these girls won't buy into the program, I switch the program. Not a big deal. I'll still get what I want, kids, just may have some long term headaches dealing with women who were deceived. If it comes down to it, I don't need sex with them after the babies. That's not critically important to me.

Obviously it wouldn't be hard to hook 1 quality Polish girl to have a kid (minus me mentioning the sharing part) if I pretended she was the only one. Once a girl I want to get pregnant is pregnant, all power turns to me... she either reluctantly submits to what I want, stays in Poland and suffers with a kid, or gets an abortion... or her 4th option is in my hands where I can take my chances on pretending she's still the only one for a little while and then OOPS, I got another girl pregnant... and OOPS again, how did I get this 3rd girl pregnant. The first option is her best option... and as an added bonus, we can see just how religious Polish girls are with the 3rd option. Girls hook guys by getting pregnant, i'd role reversal it. Or a 5th option is I can stagger this and run through 1 woman at a time for 2 kids by giving her the "ME," marriage experience. Then after the 2 kids, I move on to the next.

I'll give first shot to eastern european women. I can fall back to Colombians and Dominicans. Anyway, 2 years is a long time and a lot will happen that could change my mind. I may decide I don't need the added responsibilities and time investment of more kids. Girls eating me alive... when I was in my 20's yeah, not these days.

[The Fantasist]

(09-01-2012 01:24 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

If crisis proceeds it is more likely that Stalin gets enthroned again in his house.

Yup. Look at Hungary and what Orban is doing. Also the rise of the far right in Hungary and nationalist extremism. Dangerous times ahead if things get too messed up economically.

[Greek kamaki]

(09-01-2012 03:42 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(09-01-2012 01:24 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

If crisis proceeds it is more likely that Stalin gets enthroned again in his house.

Yup. Look at Hungary and what Orban is doing. Also the rise of the far right in Hungary and nationalist extremism. Dangerous times ahead if things get too messed up economically.

Yes,and in Greece too.Communists at 30% of votes and radical right has beaten and stabbed 500 colored immigrants in last month killing 3-4 of them.50% of police force votes for radical right so they will never get arrested.

[Menace]

What is the logic for having multiple kids with multiple women instead of kids with one woman and multiple mistresses? Also, since you do not have children I believe you are underestimating the emotions involved when you have them. It will make things more complicated.

[Gaston]

(08-30-2012 05:03 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

If I said to some Polish/Ukrainian/Russian girl that obviously liked me enough to have sex without me saying anything about all this... lets get married, have some kids, we'll live in a $750,000 house/estate in a tourist area on a beach with nice weather year round, you'll get a new car, you won't pay for anything, once or twice a year you/we will go back to Poland, you mom/family can visit and stay with us for part of the year, a couple of other trips, and to top it off I'm going to give you $1,000 a month for 18 years ($225,000) just to stay home and watch the kids... you're telling me a Polish girl won't go for that offer today?

That's not the offer.

(08-30-2012 05:03 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

in 2 years when the Polish economy is collapsed like the rest of Europe?

Who says this will happen? The Internets? The things may go down to various degrees, but these are cyclical events, and the general quality of life in EU can not collapse overnight in foreseeable future.

(08-30-2012 05:03 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

Obviously most Polish women who were into me (I'm not trying to buy their affection, I'd wait to throw this at them after I could tell they had some sincere interest in me) would take that offer in a heartbeat.I'm just taking it a step further by saying, but you won't be alone.

Watch her interest in you evaporate like magic dust once you read her the fine print (from being enamored to going "eww what a creep"). For quick exercise, do a role reversal. You meet a chick you want for your baby mama. She tells you she is divorced, already has two kids, and wants to have six more with three more men with whom she wants to live in a same compound, free to fuck and socialize with any of you in the compound whenever she wants. Oh and you won't be able to work, but you can knit together with other men in the compound. Still interested?

(08-30-2012 05:03 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

It's the other women/kids part that is my obstacle.

In business slang this is called a dealbreaker.

(08-30-2012 05:03 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

What you guys who are hung up on the $1,000 a month seem to be missing the point on is that THESE GIRLS WON'T BE RICH.

Exactly

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

$1,000 a month. That's just a small part

Exactly

(08-30-2012 05:03 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

The $1,000 a month is spending money. Much like the hangers-on of famous people. They get the lifestyle, not the wealth.

Hangers-on of famous people get to enjoy the benefits of real wealth. You on the other hand are projecting the illusion of it because you are not wealthy enough to be hit with an exit citizenship renunciation tax. Women have supremely calibrated antennas for those things, and will eventually figure it out.

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

California/southern France... I'm not catering my location to what you perceive THEY want, I'm locating where I want to be.

But where you want to be is where they don't want to be (in combination with all other factors), and since you are the one creating this offer in order to fulfill your fantasy, you need them more then they need you (for the purposes of this fantasy). Back to square one.

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

I don't see how a Polish girl would see me as a tax-evader, which I wouldn't be anyway.

You can live in Panama without renunciation.

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

I don't even want them to know how wealthy I am to begin with. I just want them to sense that, hey, this guy seems to have a lot of money and leave it at that.

Women never ever "leave anything at that". They will spend their entire free time figuring you out and getting to the bottom of your finances. The more money they think you have, the more they think they deserve in return. They will never "leave it that" because in their minds it could mean they are leaving money on the table. And that shit eats them up inside. It's called domestic hypergamy Their neurons are frequently firing, "Am I getting my fair share out of this relationship?"-type of thoughts. And since you are indeed sharing them with other women, that "fair share" motive will constantly be at the forefront of their minds.

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

You make it seem like I'm some old loser that will be a father figure to these girls.

If you're in your mid 30s, and she's 18, you are a father figure to her, certainly and especially if she never had one. It doesn't mean she sees you as her father, but that in her subconscious you may represent a substitute for one. You can disbelief this all you want, but it won't make it go away.

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

A girl right out of college is probably the ideal target

Makes no sense at all. Educated girl has more professional and social options, or thinks she does. Educated also implies some degree of smart-ness, and analytical skills. So she will forever analyze her life and how everything fits in it. This further decreases your chances of her agreeing or putting up with your arrangement for long.

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

it seems the eastern European ones are more calculating and logical.

You should see how logical they will be when evaluating your offer. Or how calculating they will be with that 1k per month. Or eventually that attorney's office down the street.

(08-29-2012 06:24 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

since she'll be getting smacked with the reality of how hard life is going to be.

You really underestimate how tough and resilient the EE people are. They lived through some of the most unimaginable things and periods in history, and not only survived, but thrived. Poland today is in its most prosperous period in terms of standard of living. And so is the rest of Europe, and most of the world for that matter. So you are completely disregarding that for a simple Internet hearsay that life in the 1st world EU will be so bad in two years that the young, regular Euro hotties (not gold-digging whores) will clamor to get on the harem bandwagon as if they are some characters from folk tales in One Thousand and One Nights? Women love to feel owned true dat, but not shared. And young women are notorious for flaking, and even taking them to an apartment in other part of town will more often than not result in their change of mind. And that flight to Panama is long.

[deepcov3r]

OP is framing it like a farm he can start, a baby-farm for his wonderfully superior genes. I think he's miscalculating the drive for women for status amongst their friends and family. Being kept on a Central American farm doesn't make the grade for sneering at their peers. An aristocratic life in Vienna or Paris is more like it. MARRIED to the guy, maybe he has side dishes. .

Nietzsche: "Women aren't even shallow."
They want the most totally obvious veneers of fuck-you wealth if you are on this level of toying with them.

1) Location: known to be expensive and beautiful, with lots of highbrow shit to do. NY, Paris, Vienna.
2) Boats; beaches, CLOTHES.
2) Opportunity to vist home and gloat.
3) Guy has some status besides money-- doctor etc.

I think Arab guys hire chicks long term to be harem members, but it's hundreds of thousands a year, and the chicks know they're getting out in two years or something -- without kids.

In the past, charismatic guys have found vulnerable, traumatized women and gotten them to do shit like this without ANY money ( Jonestown.) However it is dependent on the personality of the person.

If you don't have that kind of victim-sensing charisma, this is how you do it. COnceal your aims.

Meet her, find out if she likes the tropics, (only certain Slavs really do) Get her pregnant, invite her for a trip. If she likes it get her set up. The compound idea is humilating and makes me doubt OP's social skills.

Get her a nice house there, and oh gosh you're busy on business.

Repeat. Three would be the absolute limit.

[Greek kamaki]

The concept is based on the assumption of gullible polish girls.Of course there are some of them but in the end the most gullible is always the guy.

[Way Cool Jr]

This thread is creepy and it shows a miscalculation of Eastern Europe and in generally women minds.
Are you for real Big Nilla?
If it wasn't for your 100+ post count and some reputation points I would have said that this thread was made by a troll...

[Big Nilla]

Menace, I have 2 kids, already mentioned previously.

Gaston,
I can't expect most guys in their 20's without money and who don't already have kids (or want kids right now) to understand this... I get that almost all guys WON'T get this, especially on this type of forum. I asked 3 specific guys for opinions in this thread because I sensed (and was correct) that even if they didn't have kids or money they'd give me objective (not subjective) info I wanted (about high quality Polish/Ukrainian girls willingness to go into a situation knowing they'd be having kids with a guy who will be doing it with 1-2 other girls). I'd prefer the women know this upfront to limit long term problems that me and the kids would have if they felt duped into this. I don't want to treat quality women who would be mothers of my kids (not girls I just bang) like ghetto/redneck trash or cheap Filipinas who would love to pump out annuities for theirselves.

All this other stuff you're jumping around on about money and lifestyle and repeating yourself are pointless to the what I was looking for after the first time you mentioned it. I told you, the financials will be ROCK SOLID and to forget about that aspect, but you keep harping on it like this is some sort of debate. I'll have it covered and all dressed up nice and pretty for the girls. It was just background info. NO DEBATE NECESSARY on that. I get that you think I don't have the money, lifestyle, or location to pull this off. But I'm not putting out more info on that stuff, so you're going to be a bit uninformed when talking about my money, etc. And I'm not so pathetic to move to an area I don't want to be in just to TRY and impress golddiggers. Gaston, how old are you, do you have a lot of money, and do you have kids or want kids right now? 3 questions that require 3 simple answers to get perspective on where you're coming from.

Deep,
My social skills are just fine and dandy. Your "conceal" plan is basically what I outlined as my fallback plan. The problem with that plan is the long term problems it would create from girls feeling duped. If I didn't care about this impact on my kids, I'd definitely go that route (and still might).

Waycool,
Yeah, creepy. I better not go for what I want in life. Would this be a miscalculation if these women were poor and from the Philippines or from a ghetto or trailer park? I understand the minds... hence why I said HIGH QUALITY Polish/Ukrainian/Russian women. They have higher standards obviously.

[Excelsior]

(09-01-2012 02:38 AM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

If you guys prove to be right that these girls won't buy into the program, I switch the program. Not a big deal. I'll still get what I want, kids, just may have some long term headaches dealing with women who were deceived. If it comes down to it, I don't need sex with them after the babies. That's not critically important to me.

You haven't stopped to think about what a bunch of scorned, frustrated women might try to do to you, each other, and to your offspring?

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Obviously it wouldn't be hard to hook 1 quality Polish girl to have a kid (minus me mentioning the sharing part) if I pretended she was the only one. Once a girl I want to get pregnant is pregnant, all power turns to me... she either reluctantly submits to what I want, stays in Poland and suffers with a kid, or gets an abortion... or her 4th option is in my hands where I can take my chances on pretending she's still the only one for a little while and then OOPS, I got another girl pregnant... and OOPS again, how did I get this 3rd girl pregnant. The first option is her best option... and as an added bonus, we can see just how religious Polish girls are with the 3rd option.

I wouldn't try to force her into these corners if you're truly concerned about the welfare of your children.

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Girls hook guys by getting pregnant, i'd role reversal it.

And we all condemn that.

Is it somehow more right when you get on with it?

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Or a 5th option is I can stagger this and run through 1 woman at a time for 2 kids by giving her the "ME," marriage experience. Then after the 2 kids, I move on to the next

This is a bit more honest and thus more tenable, though I would be careful about jumping ship on your kids too quickly.

[trainwreck]

Some guys are living in a fantasy world with unicorns and eternal virgins

[el mechanico]

(09-02-2012 08:16 AM)trainwreck Wrote:  

Some guys are living in a fantasy world with unicorns and eternal virgins

How so? Cash is king my friend. What if I posted a thread saying I want to wear a silk robe all day and night at 70 and fuck live in models all day.

Never happen right?

[Gaston]

(09-02-2012 08:21 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Cash is king my friend. What if I posted a thread saying I want to wear a silk robe all day and night at 70 and fuck live in models all day.

Never happen right?

Not nearly the same. The big point here is that there's no king cash in this case. Hugh Hefner is also not fucking models like Giselle Bundchen (or Cindy Crawford). More like sleaze whores of wannabe-Jenna Jemisons and Sasha Grey type, which the OP is not into.

The OP's original plan calls for quality girls from another culture who would really be into him (were any of the bunnies ever really into Hugh?). And he wants them x3 each, x6 kids, x20 years. That's external nine people to care of flawlessly over combined 60 years of time. Which makes is it sci-fi territory. Neither Hugh Hefner had anybody faithful to him for 60 years, nor did he had three same bunnies and six kids living in the mansion for 20 years straight.

[WhoZis]

(08-29-2012 10:17 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

If you won't marry any of them, how can they feel safe? Will you sign a contract committing to support them and their kids (your kids) for at least 20 years?

Since when does a woman have to feel safe to get involved with a man?