[Greek kamaki]

For example a polish girl in province can hope at a 300 euro per month salary in best case if she lives in a relatively big city.If she lives in a smaller city,village she can get as little as 150 euro per month.Only the rent costs this money in Poland.And polish girls want to party to travel and really live(they are not conservative like girls in south Europe who prefer to stay in mother's lap till the time they get married).
So it is very essential of highest priority for a polish girl to get a boyfriend who can provide her the extra money needed for her to live(not luxuries just basic expenses).The ideal situation is if the boyfriend covers her rent.So the number of polish girls you can get per month is straight dependent on rent prices in a given place.If the rent is at 200 euro and you can dispose 800 euro on girls you get easily 4 polish girls per month.These are the basic mathematics.
Of course if you happen to be in London where the rents are much higher you probably have to comply with spending more but the same mentality persists.

Does this mean you can get polish girls only if you pay?No.Because there are the ones as well who see you as marriage material.These ones want that you do not pay anything to them so they can make the impression of a very good caring wife who can manage well her finances.They do not want you to have any negative opinion about them.So you do not pay for them apart from date expenses in cheap places because they do not want anything extraordinary(compare to Russian girls who want the best restaurants,the best hotels,the best clothes etc).In this way a man finds his Ruhe since he has not to worry about expenses so much and thinks he has found a treasure.The same girl will ask another guy for money if she sees him as a drect provider for her needs.
The mixed situation where she demands some investment in view of future marriage comes later and there the foreigners play some sly games.Anyway it is quite obvious what is going on although polish women will not tell you this as a whole they will tell you 70% of this and gradually.They do not want you to freak out and lose you.

[AlphaTravel]

OK so you pay your girls a few hundred euros a month to sleep with them, no wonder they want you to meet their family and friends.

[pitt]

(06-24-2012 08:06 AM)AlphaTravel Wrote:  

OK so you pay your girls a few hundred euros a month to sleep with them, no wonder they want you to meet their family and friends.

Thats what i thought as well. I think kamaki just runs a different type of game. But i truly dont think most of girls are like that in Poland, im sure there are players in Poland that fuck left and right without paying girls rent.

[Greek kamaki]

I already wrote:

''Does this mean you can get polish girls only if you pay?No.Because there are the ones as well who see you as marriage material.These ones want that you do not pay anything to them so they can make the impression of a very good caring wife who can manage well her finances.They do not want you to have any negative opinion about them.So you do not pay for them apart from date expenses in cheap places because they do not want anything extraordinary.''
Quite simply if they want to marry you they will not ask for money.

[Deb Auchery]

Yes all Polish girls expect you to pay unless they want to marry you

[Bananaman711]

Quick one
What is approach index of 45 that Roosh assigned to Poland;
does it mean average guy has to approach 45 girls to get laid with 1?

[Greek kamaki]

It does not have any value.Actually what matters in Poland are the polite rejections meaning so what if you get 44 rejections and the abudance of targets meaning you can do the 45 attempts in some hours maximum.

[Deb Auchery]

(06-24-2012 12:28 PM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  

Quick one
What is approach index of 45 that Roosh assigned to Poland;
does it mean average guy has to approach 45 girls to get laid with 1?

I hope we're talking about daygame and not night game!.

"Numbers game" does not work at nighttime, women have a keen sense of smell and can pickup the sour scent of desperation and failure .

In Ukraine when I do daygame, my BPN rate (bangs per number) is probably 20%, could be higher but I have a habit of not calling.

Really looking forward to going back to Ukraine, after looking on the social networking sites I am tempted to give Poland a wide berth altogether next weke, but then again it's on my way, so that would be silly.

[Bananaman711]

Iceland: 40
United States: 45
Brazil: 50
Denmark: 50
Colombia: 60
Argentina: 90


Assuming this numbers are correct, what apprach index number woud you give to Serbia, Bulgaria and Ukraine ?

[Greek kamaki]

Ukraine stands at 30.Serbia is about 100 and Bulgaria more like 40.However it is very different when you get harsh rejections.Also approaching is certainly more difficult in Bulgaria than in Poland due to layout of clubs(lots of tables,seats and the crew(lots of mixed groups where you do not know exactly who is boyfriend and who is ''pussy guard'' as we call them here).

[Bananaman711]

(06-25-2012 02:23 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Ukraine stands at 30.Serbia is about 100 and Bulgaria more like 40.However it is very different when you get harsh rejections.Also approaching is certainly more difficult in Bulgaria than in Poland due to layout of clubs(lots of tables,seats and the crew(lots of mixed groups where you do not know exactly who is boyfriend and who is ''pussy guard'' as we call them here).

These are some crazy numbers, so average man needs to approach 100 women in Serbia to expect 1 lay, I know rejections are soft but i feel numbers should be lower.
To get 10 roots in Serbia you would need to approach 1000 women, that would be mentally exhausting for most guys
I would say bangkok would be 10 in the worst case scenario and Cebu City abt the same in a very bad case scenario, and I am talking abt non pros

[Deb Auchery]

(06-25-2012 03:06 AM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  

(06-25-2012 02:23 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Ukraine stands at 30.Serbia is about 100 and Bulgaria more like 40.However it is very different when you get harsh rejections.Also approaching is certainly more difficult in Bulgaria than in Poland due to layout of clubs(lots of tables,seats and the crew(lots of mixed groups where you do not know exactly who is boyfriend and who is ''pussy guard'' as we call them here).

These are some crazy numbers, so average man needs to approach 100 women in Serbia to expect 1 lay, I know rejections are soft but i feel numbers should be lower.
To get 10 roots in Serbia you would need to approach 1000 women, that would be mentally exhausting for most guys
I would say bangkok would be 10 in the worst case scenario and Cebu City abt the same in a very bad case scenario, and I am talking abt non pros

It's tough in Serbia, a lot of the time if you approach a girl in a bar/club they will think you're a clown, but if you get introduced by a Serb guy then they are as interested as any other girl.

[Greek kamaki]

Serbian girls give you chances if you belong to the brotherhood Serb,Greek,Russian.In different case you got to be introduced by a guy from the avove mentioned nationalities.

[Greek kamaki]

Polish girls are also overly jealous.They keep checking my mobile search for e-mails etc.They do some mind games that can blow you off.

[Greek kamaki]

Everyone would like to meet the hot cheap tall,blonde,naive,low maintenance girl who has no problem with his age,baldness,fatness,lack of money etc and offers him unconditional love and lots of sex.Unfortunately this does not exist.Polish women may try to create a dream of this but it is a dream only.The reality is that they do their choices on purpose they are not naive at all and they know exactly what is going on.
But in order to succeed you have to play naive as well that you believe all these fairy tales.Polish girls reward you for being romantic,shy etc.

[Greek kamaki]

I remember one year ago I had invited a polish girlfriend of mine and kept her in a hotel in Athens for unlimited sex.So next day my polish ex calls me for a qucik fuck.I leave the former in the hotel after some anal connoisseurisms and get to the former for some extra BJs.Then I get back to the former who stayed at a hotel just 15 minutes away by walking distance.At this point at the middle of sex my other polish girls call me that they want sex as well.I tell them to get a room at a hotel in a close distance I leave the MILF and get to them waiting naked.Really unbelievable but Balkan power made again its miracle.

[AlphaTravel]

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It's tough in Serbia, a lot of the time if you approach a girl in a bar/club they will think you're a clown, but if you get introduced by a Serb guy then they are as interested as any other girl.

A lot of Serbian girls I've met have been stuck up, they seem to have bad attitudes.

Kamaki many of your stories read like pure fantasy rather than fact. Can't say for sure whether they are real or not but they don't seem like it.

[Deb Auchery]

(06-25-2012 08:25 AM)AlphaTravel Wrote:  

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It's tough in Serbia, a lot of the time if you approach a girl in a bar/club they will think you're a clown, but if you get introduced by a Serb guy then they are as interested as any other girl.

A lot of Serbian girls I've met have been stuck up, they seem to have bad attitudes.

Kamaki many of your stories read like pure fantasy rather than fact. Can't say for sure whether they are real or not but they don't seem like it.

Yes pretty stuck up and arrogant, they value themselves highly, Although they are the hottest women I have seen anywhere, which makes it all the more frustrating.

You can do good work in Serbia, but it takes time and connections. Not the place to go for a few days expecting an easy lay

[Bananaman711]

Stuck up and arrogant, thats a turn off..I like women who are sweet, once you wanna cuddle not ones who think that they are top shit without any juice to back it up with.Humble and modestwomen is what most guys like.

So one night stands are not that common in Serbia or ex Yu in general?

[Deb Auchery]

Nope SNL is uncommon throughout the Balkans as I understand. Slovenian girls are slutty out of their own country, not so much inside as Slovenia is too small.

If you like sweet girls then Ukraine and Poland are good

[Greek kamaki]

My stories are true and I have photo evidence to support them however I am reluctant to do it because there is likelihood to get into trouble.

[AlphaTravel]

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Yes pretty stuck up and arrogant, they value themselves highly, Although they are the hottest women I have seen anywhere, which makes it all the more frustrating.

Serbian girls outside Serbia are even worse. Wherever I go on my travels I seem to bump into Serbian air hostesses (they usually work for Emirates and every Emirates flight I get on has one or two Serbian girl working, for some reason) and they are even more stuck up than when at home.

[keepreal]

Hey does mystery game work for Polish and Ukrainian girls? Suppose she asks me what I do, I be vague and plays games with her, will that turn her off? I hear American humor works less well on Ukrainian than Polish. Is alot of negging too much for Polish girls' esteem?

[Greek kamaki]

Polish women are open to many different styles of game.I have overheard guys telling some stupid things to them that would put a western girl off and polish girls respond favorably.Polish women do not have the second answer I cannot describe it in English.They say what they mean and they use whole sentences.

My advantage with polish girls is that I talk to them in polish and I use high game.This is forbidden by
Greek women to use high game because you are supposed to surpass the boundaries.Also polish women take a lot of initiatives.It is like driving a car which you can also leave for some time to the automatic pilot.I am not concerned very much because I know they will respond.(they will text after a while if you don't,they call if you don't and in many cases they betray themselves saying ''I like you'',I am very jealous of other girls you may meet'',since I found you I will not let you away'',''our meeting was God's will'',''you are very perfect I liked it more when I saw you with imperfections'',''you are macho and this makes me frustrated you have other girls by your side'',''I like sex with you'',you have beautiful penis'',no wonder girls want you if you have such a penis'',you fucked me hard I cannot walk properly now'',can you cut your penis a bit so it does not hurt me?'',''do you like my sister?'',I am jealous I cannot introduce you my friends'',''I like you because you look different from polish guy'',your hair makes me horny'' etc.

[Greek kamaki]

Example of humor polish girls like:
-I like polish guys.They are so fashion conscious.
Polish girl:Oh no.No.
-I like Doda for her voice.
Polish girl:No,you like her for her breast.
-My favourite music to dance is disco polo.
Polish girl:This is a music I hate.Village people like it.Disco polo phuj
-We have the word kurwa in Greek.It means the prostitute.
Polish girl:Ha ha kurwa.
-Yes,kurwa mat.Co to kurwa jest?Idi to chuj(go to hell).
-Why are polish girls so hot and German girls so ugly?
Polish girl:It is true.German girls are fat.
-I see you put olej kujakowsky in your food.Is it better than olive oil?
Polish girl:It is the oil in Poland.
-Do you tan well?Many polish become red here.
Polish girl:I tan well when I use sunbath creams.
-You have so nice horses in polish villages.
Polish girl:Oh no.People there are 100 years behind.They use horses for transportation.
-Yes,and toilets in the open.
Polish girl:It is just awful.
-What is your opinion about tzatziki?
Polish girl:What is that?
-We use it on souvlaki.Do you like Metaxa?
Polish girl:Yes.
-Are there lemons in Poland?
No,but we have apples.
-Why do you call the Czechs pepiczki?
Polish girl:Ha ha.I do not know.
-Tell me it is true Jesus was polish?
Polish girl:Oh,no.No.
-Damn.I was sure about that.Are you a friend of Pope?
Polish girl:Jan Pawel was my favourite Pope.
-We have Patriarch.