Quote: (12-14-2012 12:41 AM)manilaguy Wrote:
The new type of thinking is foreigner=low class, and what is left are semi-pros or pros.
Ya, that started to happen in Thailand quite a while ago. At least 10 years ago, if not much earlier.
Indonesia remains open to foreigners, for now, but there is also a dichotomy between the "good" girls and the semi-pros. I don't even try to date within Bali - that place is nuts now. Too many semi-pros and virgins and too much competition from the Aussie surfers and international tourists.
But you hit on a core concept that eludes people not intimately familiar with the area. The low hanging fruit are of the lower classes. It's not ALL low hanging fruit out here. And much of the low hanging fruit you really have to watch out for - the player girls will eat you alive if you are not wary.
But there are no hard and fast rules. Low class girls can be all around great, high class girls can ignore their peer pressure and fall for a westerner and allow themselves to be isolated away from the influence of friends and family, a minority of all classes is fascinated by the big nose, or dreams of a mix baby. The point is that the value added from being a westerner is not an all access pussy pass, and for LTRs or marriage it can even be a negative value in the higher societies.
And then there is the simple economics of beauty. Girls know their value, and on the international market, the value of a nine is high. Gold is bought and sold at the international rate - you don't get discounts based on the location of where you buy it. Pussy is becoming the same. A nine is a fucking expensive commodity - the girls know their value. They don't just give up their youth and beauty to a guy for LTRs because he is white. Their value has a much higher dollar figure then that, and women instinctually know how to extract compensation for their innate value.
Guys unfamiliar with the area don't have a concept of the money that's out here. All they hear about is that girls are relatively poor. Ya, the poor girls. But the middle and upper classes make wealth that competes with wealth in any country. Why would a girl date a westerner who won't fit in with her friends and culture when the high powered young and handsome attorney is courting her? Some of these local boys are serious competition; they aren't all skinny little beta boys with no education and small dicks. They are real competition with more to offer than most any westerner is going to bring to the table.