Quote: (05-08-2012 07:05 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:
Interesting feedback Moma. Unfortunately it is not applicable for a typical situation I described above since it involved the move into a different culture. When you do so, it is obvious that your old methods might not work, and you need to find new ones which work. Indeed my idea only makes sense when the environment is constant.
Still, could you elaborate what exactly you changed? It is not obvious; from your description it looks like you're just putting more effort now to get to the level you were before.
So, what I have changed in a nutshell is:
1) Warm ups - If I am feeling introverted at that particular time (usually if the music is crap) I will warm up on a female. It can be any female - fat, old, hairy..just someone.
In Europe, I didn't warm up. Sometimes, I remained cold all night.
It's like working out. You don't go and bench 300lbs without warming up with the bar and two 45's. It's not encouraged.
After I am warmed up, I turn on my scanners. I have now engaged:
2) My level of awareness - IOU's, body language. I have displaced energy wasted in the past and focused on things that count. Before, in Europe, I used to open on the sexiest reptile, dancing and oscillating in the club, her body twerking, her buttocks rolling wildly.
Now, I know, she is usually an attention whore. I pay those sorts minimal mind. I may open her briefly but if she is into the bullshyt, I walk away immediately.
Instead, I focus on the less dressy lizard, the one who cannot keep her eyes focused on her group but keeps glancing around restlessly. If I see her eyes sweep me but for a tick tock, I pounce. Even if she doesn't look at me but her eyes are all over the place, I pounce. I observe the Roosh 3 second rule and move in.
Whether it is successful or not is irrelevant, it's doing something that counts.
3) Things I say to them - Everything I say is to try and build value (everything is fake here so being myself doesn't amount to shyt when trying to fcuk). I talk about my travels since many North Americans especially Canadians usually have only gone to the States or to Cuba, Mexico or DR. When they have done this, they have stayed on the resort like mice so it hardly counts. I tell them I lived in Europe, I mention some countries I visited, now my DHV has been boosted. I tell them countries I have in my pipeline. Now I am established as a internationally mobile person.
I watch her interaction with me. Black lizards can tend to be argumentative with me. Often, the arguments are a shyt test and a sign of horniness. Not long ago, one told me very coldly not to touch her ass when I asked and moved in for a dance. Yet we fcuked a week later.
I watch what she does with her hair (this tip was conveyed to me by a family member.) No, not whether it is cornrowed or relaxed, lol.
Does she play with it slightly? This is a sign of flirting and a green light for me.
In Europe, I was oblivious of all those signals. Does she have ass in tight jeans or leggings? Yes? Then that was my green light.
I would talk to her about regular shyt in Europe and often got sidelined by basic roadblocks (I have a man).
However off of pure volume, I was a huge day gamer in Europe (I walked, cycled and took the public transport everywhere). Besides, in Europe, people didn't get so wowed about travel so it meant jack shyt harping on about all that. My friend went to Bulgaria and back for 40 pounds just because he had nothing else to do. I got a return to Paris for 20 pounds. It was less about this resume like presentation over there (in my experience).
4) Kino - I touch now and nudge. In Europe, I didn't do this (unless we were both naked and I was trying to find the hole). I am not a big toucher (the European country I am from respects proximity from one another). But now I nudge the lizards after I say a gentle neg and observe how she reacts. I request hugs for basic things. I try and kiss on the two cheeks. If she doesn't shirk away like my fingers exude corrosive acid, I move a little more for some contact.
If she doesn't want too much more intimate public contact i.e. no ass touch then I maintain the contact we have and continue talking.
I ask for a dance. I don't like jabbering too much because I get bored and I might end up saying something that will spoil the stew.
4) Qualifying and disqualifying - I ask her what's going on afterwards. If she responds firmly that she is finding her friend and going home, I go for the number. Usually, when I go out, I am not even ready to fcuk. I don't eat my kills on the same night, I store them for later on during the week. So if I could push harder for the first night slam but I hardly do.
So if the first night slam is not there, I go for the number. If I get the number, I bring my phone out and dial it immediately. If her phone doesn't ring, it's a red flag. Some say, I left my phone at home. If so, I may probably delete her number.
If I call her three times (the next day or the day after) and I don't get a reply, I delete her number immediately. No re-text. I used to play that simpish Beta Casper the cowardly text to see if she was free. Fcuk dat. Remove temptation. She's gone. If she does re-contact me on some attention whoring I need a simp deal, I sidestep all that and I demand she comes to my place. If there is any wishy washy about that, I end the call (respectfully) and re-delete the number (I have call display).
I didn't qualify in Europe. To be honest, I didn't really have to. Those who wanted to, gave their number and those who didn't want to, would not give number.
5) Ignorance - I do not listen to a word she says. I ignore that. I only watch her body language. I don't hear if she has a man or not, kids, busy, I watch her behaviour, I observe my agenda. I do not pay her too much mind. I just look for the clues in what she says. Once I see sexual openings, I make my play.
So, sir, the aforementioned points are what I have changed exactly, in regards to game.