[Giovonny]

(04-28-2012 07:12 PM)houston Wrote:  

I don't think ill ever visit Miami. Mixx said its a huge hurdle for Latinos

Isn't it mostly Latino? I know alot of the rich Latinos go there.

Didn't he also say it was good to be Latino when the white girls come for vacation?

I think it sucks for low status, poor Latinos who can't afford to live the high end lifestyle.

That's why I say, find a better place with a higher chance of finding a good "social match". Even if its just a few blocks or a few miles away.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/post-200947.html

(04-28-2012 07:12 PM)houston Wrote:  

It seems like a good place to practice your boxing skills because of all the idiots with money.

Nothing to gain by fighting millionaires. If you win - you beat up a millionaire. If you lose - you got beat up by a millionaire.

[Moma]

(04-28-2012 08:00 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 07:12 PM)houston Wrote:  

I don't think ill ever visit Miami. Mixx said its a huge hurdle for Latinos

Isn't it mostly Latino? I know alot of the rich Latinos go there.

Didn't he also say it was good to be Latino when the white girls come for vacation?

I think it sucks for low status, poor Latinos who can't afford to live the high end lifestyle.

That's why I say, find a better place with a higher chance of finding a good "social match". Even if its just a few blocks or a few miles away.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/post-200947.html

(04-28-2012 07:12 PM)houston Wrote:  

It seems like a good place to practice your boxing skills because of all the idiots with money.

Nothing to gain by fighting millionaires. If you win - you beat up a millionaire. If you lose - you got beat up by a millionaire.

It is mostly Latino. I've stayed there for a bit and I felt like speaking only Spanish as opposed to speaking only English was far more useful.
Usually, it's always good to be of the majority in a place. I saw Latinos doing quite well. You lose the novelty factor if you are Latino but I'm sure there is something to say for familiarity factor.

[Vitriol]

Miami can be a lot of fun if you stay away from the tourist spots and bottle service night club bullshit, but if you're only coming here for a dew days it's going to be harder to pull off because the first places you're going to find are usually the tourist spots.

The posts about checking out Brickell, Kendall, Coral Gables, Coconut Grove, etc. are giving you guys some good advice for how to go out in Miami and avoid the bullshit. If you just get a hotel on the beach for a weekend you're probably going to miss out on all that.

[G Trooper]

(04-28-2012 07:18 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

That, and the poorer girls who don't expect to be hanging with millionaires anyway. Plus, the young girls who are really not aware of their place in the world and just wanna have fun.

Yes, its fun to challenge yourself in different areas sometimes, but if you really want results, I say, you gotta be thinking location, location, location. Put yourself in the best one possible.

Gtrooper,

Whats up with Mixx??

I love those girls, the ones that are just a hot as the high class fly girls, yet don't dress the part and are some much more enjoyable to be with.

Yes man, I agree....location is absolutely vital.

Last time, I saw Mixx was in March, we did some trooping on South Beach. We didn't really talk about the forum at all. I know he bounced to his condo in Colombia, and i'm sure he's slaying as usual down there.

[G Trooper]

(04-28-2012 07:47 PM)bigxxx Wrote:  

Was at the heat game today and was blown away by the number of insanely hot girls

Is this usually the case?

Better quality that you would see even on Lincoln

Yeah buddy. I went to a game last week. There were some absolute stunners out there. Some of them were just there with their girlfriends too. And best part...the girls were much more friendly and much lower bitch shields than the Lincoln Rd. girls.

[Giovonny]

(04-28-2012 08:13 PM)G Trooper Wrote:  

I love those girls, the ones that are just a hot as the high class fly girls, yet don't dress the part and are some much more enjoyable to be with.

Exactly dude!

I like the 7.5's who think they are 6.5's. And the 6's who are actually 7's if they just dress a little sexier and get their hair done. I like to catch them before they enter their prime. I like to look for the girls with good bodies but they don't really know how to dress. And, the ones who grew up in a bad female fishbowl so they didn't alot of attention. Sometimes, they don't know how cute they are. Then they move to a different area and it takes them a while to figure out that they can actually be a 7 or 8. These are the "diamonds in the rough"

[velkrum]

great thread !

Can you guys explain or describe how having money makes hooking up easier in Miami. For those of us who make 100k and above, how do we use that to our advantage ?? Do you just dress the part and buy expensive drinks at an upscale club/bar/lounge? Invite girls over to your luxury condo ? Be seen in an expensive car ?

Does ethnicity play a role in the pickup ? or is the socioeconomic factor the bottom line ?

Does a caucasian earning 6 figures have an easier time picking up ALL types of women as opposed to a black dude who earns 6 figures trying to pick up various women ?

[el mechanico]

(04-29-2012 11:49 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

great thread !

Can you guys explain or describe how having money makes hooking up easier in Miami. For those of us who make 100k and above, how do we use that to our advantage ?? Do you just dress the part and buy expensive drinks at an upscale club/bar/lounge? Invite girls over to your luxury condo ? Be seen in an expensive car ?

Does ethnicity play a role in the pickup ? or is the socioeconomic factor the bottom line ?

Does a caucasian earning 6 figures have an easier time picking up ALL types of women as opposed to a black dude who earns 6 figures trying to pick up various women ?

What you earn makes no difference. 100 k in spending/ beer money is a different story.

[G Trooper]

(04-29-2012 11:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 11:49 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

great thread !

Can you guys explain or describe how having money makes hooking up easier in Miami. For those of us who make 100k and above, how do we use that to our advantage ?? Do you just dress the part and buy expensive drinks at an upscale club/bar/lounge? Invite girls over to your luxury condo ? Be seen in an expensive car ?

Does ethnicity play a role in the pickup ? or is the socioeconomic factor the bottom line ?

Does a caucasian earning 6 figures have an easier time picking up ALL types of women as opposed to a black dude who earns 6 figures trying to pick up various women ?

What you earn makes no difference. 100 k in spending/ beer money is a different story.

Yeah buddy, it doesn't really make a difference. A guy
on his feet earning 100k vs. a guy on his feet earning 50k
with the same exact game isn't going to pull much more than
the other.

Going to the upscale venues will help you target the more upscale
women, but buying a pricy cocktail instead of a 5 dollar beer
won't make a difference.

Dressing well is very important in Miami, but you don't have to be
ballin to dress well.

Having a pimp ride and luxury crib can help, but shit it's by no
means necessary and having a decent car and having a whatever
pad will work just fine.

[_DC_]

(04-30-2012 08:14 PM)G Trooper Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 11:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 11:49 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

great thread !

Can you guys explain or describe how having money makes hooking up easier in Miami. For those of us who make 100k and above, how do we use that to our advantage ?? Do you just dress the part and buy expensive drinks at an upscale club/bar/lounge? Invite girls over to your luxury condo ? Be seen in an expensive car ?

Does ethnicity play a role in the pickup ? or is the socioeconomic factor the bottom line ?

Does a caucasian earning 6 figures have an easier time picking up ALL types of women as opposed to a black dude who earns 6 figures trying to pick up various women ?

What you earn makes no difference. 100 k in spending/ beer money is a different story.

Yeah buddy, it doesn't really make a difference. A guy
on his feet earning 100k vs. a guy on his feet earning 50k
with the same exact game isn't going to pull much more than
the other.

Going to the upscale venues will help you target the more upscale
women, but buying a pricy cocktail instead of a 5 dollar beer
won't make a difference.

Dressing well is very important in Miami, but you don't have to be
ballin to dress well.

Having a pimp ride and luxury crib can help, but shit it's by no
means necessary and having a decent car and having a whatever
pad will work just fine.

How about a luxury crib, no car, and a taxi cab service number?

[G Trooper]

(04-30-2012 08:36 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

(04-30-2012 08:14 PM)G Trooper Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 11:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 11:49 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

great thread !

Can you guys explain or describe how having money makes hooking up easier in Miami. For those of us who make 100k and above, how do we use that to our advantage ?? Do you just dress the part and buy expensive drinks at an upscale club/bar/lounge? Invite girls over to your luxury condo ? Be seen in an expensive car ?

Does ethnicity play a role in the pickup ? or is the socioeconomic factor the bottom line ?

Does a caucasian earning 6 figures have an easier time picking up ALL types of women as opposed to a black dude who earns 6 figures trying to pick up various women ?

What you earn makes no difference. 100 k in spending/ beer money is a different story.

Yeah buddy, it doesn't really make a difference. A guy
on his feet earning 100k vs. a guy on his feet earning 50k
with the same exact game isn't going to pull much more than
the other.

Going to the upscale venues will help you target the more upscale
women, but buying a pricy cocktail instead of a 5 dollar beer
won't make a difference.

Dressing well is very important in Miami, but you don't have to be
ballin to dress well.

Having a pimp ride and luxury crib can help, but shit it's by no
means necessary and having a decent car and having a whatever
pad will work just fine.

How about a luxury crib, no car, and a taxi cab service number?

The Taxi/Condo combo sounds likes a winner to me bro. It's no cake walk down here, just keep up your approaches and enjoy the fruits of your labor.

[elabayarde]

(04-28-2012 05:19 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 03:37 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

In DC they act this way but they're actually ugly. Everytime I'm in Miami hot girls are 1) Extremely more numerous 2) Dressed way way better (high heels/tight dresses) and 3) Give more IOIs and are friendly. I actually get hit on when I go to Miami. I'll take girls who are aware of their own hotness over girls who have embodied good ratios (for them) and the laws of supply and demand (DC).

To each their own I guess.

I'm a tall white midwestern boy though. I heard (I think it was Mixx?) say that its much more difficult if you're latin because of the exotic factor, or lack thereof.

I was in Arlington last night, and don't get me wrong, hot girls are out sometimes but on bad nights its absolutely horrible. I went out to two bars last night. I swear to christ it was 80% guys. The best looking girl in the entire bar would probably be in the ugly half at a HH in Miami.

That's true. Not only are they ugly but the have attitudes to boot. That's why I try to avoid DC unless there's an event or the venue is upscale. So anyone who has gamed for years in DC would probably think Miami or any other 1st tier city is paradise. LOL

LOL...Ain't that the truth. I was sending all my fiends(in DC) pictures of the chicks i banged down there. But that was spring break and the music festival. So that could just be the time of the year. I know nothing in DC comes remotely close. You can go pure numbers down there... and game everything you see.
Also, to me in as like girls were hitting on dudes. I thought it was hilarious. Some chicks pulled up to me and Yelled ..."Get in the car".
Of coarse, I was with a chick at the time.... so missed opportunity.
I wouldn't say pass up on visiting miami. Bad idea to me.
The fact is in DC you just don't see girls like the ones down there. So game or no game... there is no chance.

[el mechanico]

If I took a cab everywhere I went during a day it would cost me about 200 dollars and this place is cheaper. You're shooting yourself in the foot there. Last night I was in Checkers parking lot and some girls just walked up and started talking to me. I drove there. this shit happens all the time. If you have to plan your rolls around a cab and cant loiter when you feel like your bangs will be cut down %75. This is Florida. People are outside all over and you have to have access to them. If you can access them by water it's even better. You want to go to the Hardrock on Sunday? Call a cab? Take one home? Meet a girl there that want's to go with you to a couple places? That's 200 dollars.

[txbeachbum]

(04-28-2012 04:24 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

(04-28-2012 04:12 PM)rozayINTL Wrote:  

Internationalplayboy,

I don't know the specifics of your situation - but if you had a very strong bank roll in Miami, how do you think your ability to pick up would be effected?

From what I can tell $$ is crucial in that city for picking up girls (much more so than the avg US city). Which is sad and pathetic, but seems to be the case. It's as if 100k is the absolute minimum and anything lower is going to greatly reduce a player's chances. Shit maybe it's even higher

Also International Playboy, can you target spots where you know visiting south americans frequent? It seems like there should be a decent supply of Argentine and Brazilian bitches visiting the city. But who knows maybe once in Miami a Brazilian 5 thinks she's a fucking 15 lol

Take this with a grain of salt (because i don't live there yet), but I think if you make enough to afford a nice apartment with a nice view and a nice pool in South Beach (e.g. Flamingo, Waverly, etc.) you should be set. In that case 100k+ sounds about right, granted you're following the 30% of take-home income rule for rent (a 1 Bdr in a highrise is going to run 1500-2000 a month).

Hey no offence but a 100k a year gross in miami especially SOBE is peanuts half the bottle service girls in the clubs make that a year and are living in a nice apt with water view (dime a dozen) so if your doing that its like so what.

The standard has been set so high in mia/SOBE is nutz you talking 100K cars for blocks, bugattis, chicks with better cars than the dudes I saw broke ass secretaries with leased benz convertibles and trying to do it with no car is gonna be 2 x hard plus like el mentioned the taxis are gonna cost you way more than a car per month. $200 a night in taxi x 5 nights a month =$1000 min and that won't get ya nothing jaw dropping.

White, black, latino doesn't matter you need to covered in green. Yeah there are a few jems there. But how long you want to wait for that jem you will be a very small fish in a BIG ASS OCEAN.

$100k could go much further in another city in the usa, or 100x better out the country, like penthouse, maids, driver type of shit on $50k.

[el mechanico]

That same money here and a real job that's not at the T- mobile store puts you at high status. More bang for the buck. Girls her fight over dudes that have their shit together.

[_DC_]

(04-30-2012 09:39 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

That same money here and a real job that's not at the T- mobile store puts you at high status. More bang for the buck. Girls her fight over dudes that have their shit together.

I kinda figured this much. I understand 120k is not impressive AT ALL in Sobe. I get it. There are people down there who make a million or ten million a year. However, I feel like anybody my age who is making significantly more than 120K has there hand in a fat trust fund.

Mechanico, I don't quite get the 200 a night for cab fair, granted you stay in SOBE. Also, the only cab you'd be paying for all yourself is the cab ride home. Anytime you were with friends the fare would be 1/4 or so.

I just don't feel like I'd use it enough either. It seems safer and smarter to cab around with the drinking as well. I'll reconsider obviously once I move.

[el mechanico]

(04-30-2012 09:55 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

(04-30-2012 09:39 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

That same money here and a real job that's not at the T- mobile store puts you at high status. More bang for the buck. Girls her fight over dudes that have their shit together.

I kinda figured this much. I understand 120k is not impressive AT ALL in Sobe. I get it. There are people down there who make a million or ten million a year. However, I feel like anybody my age who is making significantly more than 120K has there hand in a fat trust fund.

Mechanico, I don't quite get the 200 a night for cab fair, granted you stay in SOBE. Also, the only cab you'd be paying for all yourself is the cab ride home. Anytime you were with friends the fare would be 1/4 or so.

I just don't feel like I'd use it enough either. It seems safer and smarter to cab around with the drinking as well. I'll reconsider obviously once I move.

How about dates? all going to be near your crib? Latinas like to go all over to eat and shit. You end up at a girls house in Miami lakes and you're done banging and don't want to stay then what? wait an hour for a Taxi? You need a car! Just don't drive it when out bar hopping.

[_DC_]

(04-30-2012 10:02 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(04-30-2012 09:55 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

(04-30-2012 09:39 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

That same money here and a real job that's not at the T- mobile store puts you at high status. More bang for the buck. Girls her fight over dudes that have their shit together.

I kinda figured this much. I understand 120k is not impressive AT ALL in Sobe. I get it. There are people down there who make a million or ten million a year. However, I feel like anybody my age who is making significantly more than 120K has there hand in a fat trust fund.

Mechanico, I don't quite get the 200 a night for cab fair, granted you stay in SOBE. Also, the only cab you'd be paying for all yourself is the cab ride home. Anytime you were with friends the fare would be 1/4 or so.

I just don't feel like I'd use it enough either. It seems safer and smarter to cab around with the drinking as well. I'll reconsider obviously once I move.

How about dates? all going to be near your crib? Latinas like to go all over to eat and shit. You end up at a girls house in Miami lakes and you're done banging and don't want to stay then what? wait an hour for a Taxi? You need a car! Just don't drive it when out bar hopping.

Well I can push for the ONS or nothing approach. Also, I can screen her for proximity. Miami Lakes? Next!

[velkrum]

so earning 6 figures and having a luxury condo means nothing. How much you spend at the bar is what grabs the ladies attention.

..yet the ladies are all making 100k or more so they see a guy who earns 6 figures as a nobody.

translating into most of the girls flocking to a small percentage of millionaires and guys who fake it at the clubs ??

do I have this correct ?

[txbeachbum]

(04-30-2012 10:26 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

so earning 6 figures and having a luxury condo means nothing. How much you spend at the bar is what grabs the ladies attention.

..yet the ladies are all making 100k or more so they see a guy who earns 6 figures as a nobody.

translating into most of the girls flocking to a small percentage of millionaires and guys who fake it at the clubs ??

do I have this correct ?

EXACTLY!!!

[_DC_]

I don't buy all this talk.

Miami looks ridiculously rich because of some ridiculously rich residents, people renting ridiculously rich things (for the weekend), people on vacation spending way more money then they would on a normal weekend, and the city being all about flash.

http://www.city-data.com/zips/33139.html

The average wage for South Beach is 52k. The average AGI is 89k. This discrepancy is explained by an average net capital gain of 88k (on 20% of returns). This is people who live on SOBE (33139). Miami proper is obviously much much lower.

I would imagine a 20-something making 100k is doing quite well. If somebody means to say that a good-looking guy in his 20s is going to be sitting with his dick in his hand because he *only* makes six-figures, well, I simply think its bullshit. Most of the people making all the dough and sitting on capital gains are older folks and retirees (living in the Continuum etc.).

[velkrum]

I'm with you DC. I think most of what has been said about Miami is coming from "bottom of the barrel" guys who don't know what the f_ck they are talking about.

[txbeachbum]

(05-01-2012 12:14 AM)_DC_ Wrote:  

I don't buy all this talk.

Miami looks ridiculously rich because of some ridiculously rich residents, people renting ridiculously rich things (for the weekend), people on vacation spending way more money then they would on a normal weekend, and the city being all about flash.

http://www.city-data.com/zips/33139.html

The average wage for South Beach is 52k. The average AGI is 89k. This discrepancy is explained by an average net capital gain of 88k (on 20% of returns). This is people who live on SOBE (33139). Miami proper is obviously much much lower.

I would imagine a 20-something making 100k is doing quite well. If somebody means to say that a good-looking guy in his 20s is going to be sitting with his dick in his hand because he *only* makes six-figures, well, I simply think its bullshit. Most of the people making all the dough and sitting on capital gains are older folks and retirees (living in the Continuum etc.).

It's bullshit cause it doesnt validate that you can impress chicks in miami on $100k most of the people that you see around SOBE do not work in miami they usually bring the money with them as you would be doing working from home so your own income proves those #'s are worthless.

Alot of the $$ comes from other states/countries alot of people have 2nd homes in miami and sobe so that income will not show up in your data, how many people in up north have money that winter in miami, plus the models that flock there, or athletes, entertainers, drug dealers etc they make it elsewhere and spend it MIA.Yeah the avg joe working in miami or sobe doesnt make shit as your facts show 52k avg income.

Sorry to disappoint you but, $100k is not alot yeah way above avg for a guy in 20's but like someone else mentioned maybe need to pick another fishbowl cause you will be a grade up from a guppy in mia and with no car its gonna be tough, miami has thousands of water view apts/condos thats nothing man.

Not trying to shit on ya parade but mia and especially SOBE is where people with and without money go to show off.

Only way to know it to do it...

[txbeachbum]

(05-01-2012 12:24 AM)velkrum Wrote:  

I'm with you DC. I think most of what has been said about Miami is coming from "bottom of the barrel" guys who don't know what the f_ck they are talking about.

"bottom of the barrel" why?
Cause $100k is not alot of money except to you and you mad because people who know miami told you bitches won't be throwing pussy at you cause you make a funky ass $100k a year(bottom of 6 figures) or cause your rent one of the 200,000 "beachfront" apartments on sobe the panties suppose to come off when they come in the door and see the water view like its some new shit.

Was that your motivation while you working on your online biz lol, if so sorry to disappoint.

el mech just told you what the deal was and you don't want to believe it yeah if you wanna fuck avg chicks no problem but if thats the case you can stay where you at correct?

[velkrum]

If I go to Miami I'm going to seek out the attractive women whom I have a better shot with.

More than likely I will be seeking out the locals and natives. I'm pretty sure there are attractive locals and natives, no ?
not every hot looking girl has to be a professional model, athlete, entertainer, drug dealer etc.

I won't be putting any effort into models, celebrities or famous folk because the odds are probably stacked against me that someone famous would care who I was. Plus I don't run in those social circles. If I happen to bang a tourist or someone from a higher economic / status scale I'll consider it a lucky bonus.

p.s. you were right about one thing. 100k and higher IS a lot of money to me. I guess you must be one of the millionaires that lives in another country and bangs famous models and entertainers.

Quote:

if you wanna fuck avg chicks no problem but if thats the case you can stay where you at correct?

Banging hot women would not be my SOLE purpose for visiting / living in Miami