[Klasmatic]

I have been dating this girl (solid 8-9) for about 2 months now and she works at a high end clothing store in our city. Almost daily, some local sports star or celeb comes in and shops there and since she is in charge of men's clothing, she has to help them. Well yesterday, a high profile athlete came in and she helped him for about an hour and afterwards he asked for her number. I'm not sure if she gave it to him or not, but she did text me and say "he did ask me for my number..."

that's all she said. This guy is a star MLB player and is obviously much higher status than me. Any ideas how I should handle this? I know this won't be the last time something like this happens. How the hell can I compete with this shit?

[RichieP]

The same way you should be running your relationship anyway:

-Dont be phased by the status of any one other guy even if he's famous. It just doesnt help you to care about it. Choose not to be pay heed to it, he's just another guy trying to get her number. Some guys will be more smooth, some will be less. Maybe he's a big awkward chode in person, many athletes are. Just say "Oh, well lucky you" and then say no more of it.

-Make it clear to her that you're a man of standards, cheating is unacceptable and subcommunicate that you will likely walk if she cheats on you with anyone (you would, right?)

-Be in an abundance mindset yourself. Know you have other options, stay in touch with other girls and female friends, keep the habit of flirting (not in front of her to piss her off, but for you, to keep the rust off) and be prepared to get back in the game and hit the clubs/streets approaching if you became single again.

None of this needs to be gimmicky or gamey.. it's simply how to be the man in a relationship.

Also btw, none of this will 100% ensure she wont cheat. But its the best longterm position you can take - it maximises her attraction for you while also maximising her punishment for straying. That's all you can control.

[HiFlo]

Tough one. It's a big fish-eat-little fish world after all.

She obviously texted you that as an attention whore move, so I hope you ignored it completely.

[Klasmatic]

(04-26-2012 11:52 AM)HiFlo Wrote:  

Tough one. It's a big fish-eat-little fish world after all.

She obviously texted you that as an attention whore move, so I hope you ignored it completely.

Very good advice.

I have not responded to this text at all. Should I just not even say anything about it and start a new thread? I'm gonna have to see her tonight and will need to make plans prior so I'm thinking I pretend to not even see the text and just move ahead with making plans...

[Klasmatic]

Thanks for the advice, Richie. I'm thinking of how I can convey a willingness to walk away while also conveying that I don't give a shit about him asking for her number.

[Giovonny]

Uhhh-Ohhhh!!!! Major Fishbowl issues!!!!

What can this guy do ?!?!?!?

You gotta get your girl away from these guys. They are fucking millionaire, pro athlete celebrities.

Fuck! This is a tough one!

I say enjoy banging and being with her while you still can. You have some big fucking sharks swimming around you and they want your little starfish. Damn!

Its tough dating beautiful women sometimes because of shit like this. Everybody wants them.

[Klasmatic]

(04-26-2012 12:07 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Uhhh-Ohhhh!!!! Major Fishbowl issues!!!!

What can this guy do ?!?!?!?

You gotta get your girl away from these guys. They are fucking millionaire, pro athlete celebrities.

Fuck! This is a tough one!

I say enjoy banging and being with her while you still can. You have some big fucking sharks swimming around you and they want your little starfish. Damn!

Its tough dating beautiful women sometimes because of shit like this. Everybody wants them.

yeah, exactly. This situation kinda sucks but it will help me build character and is a good test for me. I want to try and keep this girl going for a while but I don't know how to deal with this happening on a daily basis without coming off as jealous/needy/approval seeking.

[el mechanico]

If she wasn't flirting with him he wouldn't of asked. These dudes have it made. I live near a shitload of spring training stadiums including the Yankees. When they roll in it's over so consider that pussy pounded and just deal with it. Your girl working in mens clothes put her in a nonstop game being run on situation anyway so this is going to happen all the time. Ask her to invite the dude to a threesome you, him and her and see what she says.

[RichieP]

(04-26-2012 12:03 PM)Klasmatic Wrote:  

Thanks for the advice, Richie. I'm thinking of how I can convey a willingness to walk away while also conveying that I don't give a shit about him asking for her number.

The key is to decide what you will and wont accept in the relationship, and then be unapologetic and firm about it.

IMO girls will just give out their numbers for validation and not necessarily actually making plans. Girls will give it out, even with no intention to meet the guy. So to me, I let them have that one. I dont mind them telling me about him asking, because they're just excited and it's a little way for them to test me now and again, which I dont mind because Im happy to keep showing them I'm the guy for her.

At the same time, if she did give it out, its NOT acceptable for her to be trying to provoke me by telling me she gave it to him - it's not something she should be bringing into the discussion, it's just disrespectful.

The equivalent would be, it's OK for me to harmlessly flirt with other girls, but I wouldnt be deliberately doing it in front of her or telling her about it. It's just disrespectful and deliberately provoking.

So if she told me he asked for her number, I would say "Oh, well lucky you" and then just move on. Move onto talking about our plans, etc.

BUT if she then told me she gave him it, I would chastise her. Like, I know she may well have and dont really mind (girls cant resist the validation, even if they have no intention to meet), but at the same time, I do not want to hear about it and she shouldnt be bringing that energy into our relationship. So I would draw a boundary and tell her off, harshly. "Why are you telling me this? Should I be taking numbers from girls and telling you about it? Exactly, no. Dont bring this bullshit to the table again"

BTW this is all *my* values, the stuff I will and wont accept. You have to decide on yours, and then be firm and unapologetic about it.

[Veloce]

One of the hottest girls I dated was always doing shit like this. She'd come home from work and tell me about some millionaire who offered to take her to see Sting or U2 or some shit. I just ignored her and kept it business as usual. As long as you keep her fighting for YOUR attention, well, thats all you can do. If she leaves you or cheats on you there's not much else you can do anyway.

[soup]

(04-26-2012 12:07 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Uhhh-Ohhhh!!!! Major Fishbowl issues!!!!

What can this guy do ?!?!?!?

You gotta get your girl away from these guys. They are fucking millionaire, pro athlete celebrities.

Fuck! This is a tough one!

I say enjoy banging and being with her while you still can. You have some big fucking sharks swimming around you and they want your little starfish. Damn!

Its tough dating beautiful women sometimes because of shit like this. Everybody wants them.

Yes, enjoy it while it lasts.

There are always going to be bigger fish, and it's not always another person. Sometimes it's a job offer in another country, or some other personal thing that draws her away from you.

This is why you just can't rely on being in a relationship, especially with a very attractive girl. This is why oneitising over any girl is setting yourself up for trouble. It's a fantasy, that more often than not will end in suffering.

Maybe it sounds depressing, but if you have good game, you don't have to worry.

I say, if you can snag an 8, you can snag many 8s. She's just the beginning. Let the bigger fish have her. It doesn't matter. Sooner than later, she's going to age out anyway.

The only way I can imagine keeping a girl in line is if you are way higher in value/ have much greater game than her. She has to be eating out of your hand like a dog. You'd need a loyal dog. You have to be her god. So, unless you are famous or have amazing game, the best way to get a loyal girl is to aim for a lower value girl. The problem with this is that you won't be satisfied.

[soup]

(04-26-2012 12:21 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

If she wasn't flirting with him he wouldn't of asked. These dudes have it made. I live near a shitload of spring training stadiums including the Yankees. When they roll in it's over so consider that pussy pounded and just deal with it. Your girl working in mens clothes put her in a nonstop game being run on situation anyway so this is going to happen all the time. Ask her to invite the dude to a threesome you, him and her and see what she says.

I wouldn't want to do a three with another guy, but you might be able to use the girlfriend to befriend the bigger fish, and then ride his coattails!

[Klasmatic]

(04-26-2012 12:21 PM)RichieP Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 12:03 PM)Klasmatic Wrote:  

Thanks for the advice, Richie. I'm thinking of how I can convey a willingness to walk away while also conveying that I don't give a shit about him asking for her number.

The key is to decide what you will and wont accept in the relationship, and then be unapologetic and firm about it.

IMO girls will just give out their numbers for validation and not necessarily actually making plans. Girls will give it out, even with no intention to meet the guy. So to me, I let them have that one. I dont mind them telling me about him asking, because they're just excited and it's a little way for them to test me now and again, which I dont mind because Im happy to keep showing them I'm the guy for her.

At the same time, if she did give it out, its NOT acceptable for her to be trying to provoke me by telling me she gave it to him - it's not something she should be bringing into the discussion, it's just disrespectful.

The equivalent would be, it's OK for me to harmlessly flirt with other girls, but I wouldnt be deliberately doing it in front of her or telling her about it. It's just disrespectful and deliberately provoking.

So if she told me he asked for her number, I would say "Oh, well lucky you" and then just move on. Move onto talking about our plans, etc.

BUT if she then told me she gave him it, I would chastise her. Like, I know she may well have and dont really mind (girls cant resist the validation, even if they have no intention to meet), but at the same time, I do not want to hear about it and she shouldnt be bringing that energy into our relationship. So I would draw a boundary and tell her off, harshly. "Why are you telling me this? Should I be taking numbers from girls and telling you about it? Exactly, no. Dont bring this bullshit to the table again"

BTW this is all *my* values, the stuff I will and wont accept. You have to decide on yours, and then be firm and unapologetic about it.

You make perfect sense and I should point out that it wasn't totally unprovoked that she mentioned the number.

She told me about him coming in, because I'm a huge sports fan and she knew I liked him as a player. Then last night, he was playing and playing well and I mentioned I was watching baseball and I said "damn, he's kicking ass...Are you sure you only "helped him shop?""

Her response was "well he did ask for my number..."

So I kinda initiated the conversation to lead to that but I still feel like this is a shit test of some sort.

[WanderingSoul]

One time I was at Bills Casino in South Lake Tahoe for New Years and Ami James and Chris Nunez from Miami Ink were there. Nunez tried to talk to my girlfriend when she walked to the bar but she didn't hear him and kept walking. I was going to knock his teeth out but then I realized I'm not a jealous retard and Ami might be able to kick my ass*. This makes for a better story than getting my teeth knocked out by a 35 year old B celebrity at a shitty casino in Tahoe.

*Not serious about wanting to kick Nunez's ass, pretty serious about Ami probably being able to kick my ass.

[Spike]

(04-26-2012 11:27 AM)Klasmatic Wrote:  

I have been dating this girl (solid 8-9) for about 2 months now and she works at a high end clothing store in our city. Almost daily, some local sports star or celeb comes in and shops there and since she is in charge of men's clothing, she has to help them. Well yesterday, a high profile athlete came in and she helped him for about an hour and afterwards he asked for her number. I'm not sure if she gave it to him or not, but she did text me and say "he did ask me for my number..."

that's all she said. This guy is a star MLB player and is obviously much higher status than me. Any ideas how I should handle this? I know this won't be the last time something like this happens. How the hell can I compete with this shit?

Its funny how you started three threads saying you are banging a 9 and saying you're game is better than your friends but in all the threads you come of as an ultra insecure beta guy.

I feel like i have to invite the purple monster again.

[Pacesetter20]

(04-26-2012 11:27 AM)Klasmatic Wrote:  

I have been dating this girl (solid 8-9) for about 2 months now and she works at a high end clothing store in our city. Almost daily, some local sports star or celeb comes in and shops there and since she is in charge of men's clothing, she has to help them. Well yesterday, a high profile athlete came in and she helped him for about an hour and afterwards he asked for her number. I'm not sure if she gave it to him or not, but she did text me and say "he did ask me for my number..."

that's all she said. This guy is a star MLB player and is obviously much higher status than me. Any ideas how I should handle this? I know this won't be the last time something like this happens. How the hell can I compete with this shit?

http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2006/02/how...reams.html

[Keyser Söze]

Generally when you feel jealousy and suspect cheating, it has already gone on for a while.

Mental manipulation is expecially important with the hotties, as they have options.

Key things to consider here:

1. is this a serious LTR/marriage thing? If not, you are already at the 2-3 month mark, which is when things get stale.

2. Don't think about competing with one of those guys. You don't need to, as presumably you have other qualities that they don't (intellect, maybe languages, who knows...)

3. if you want to keep things going (a big if, since your quality of life decreases if you are going to waste your mental energy wondering if she is fucking around), then your best bet is to ignore any mention of shit like this, and make her jealous somehow.

[Klasmatic]

(04-26-2012 12:37 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 11:27 AM)Klasmatic Wrote:  

I have been dating this girl (solid 8-9) for about 2 months now and she works at a high end clothing store in our city. Almost daily, some local sports star or celeb comes in and shops there and since she is in charge of men's clothing, she has to help them. Well yesterday, a high profile athlete came in and she helped him for about an hour and afterwards he asked for her number. I'm not sure if she gave it to him or not, but she did text me and say "he did ask me for my number..."

that's all she said. This guy is a star MLB player and is obviously much higher status than me. Any ideas how I should handle this? I know this won't be the last time something like this happens. How the hell can I compete with this shit?

Its funny how you started three threads saying you are banging a 9 and saying you're game is better than your friends but in all the threads you come of as an ultra insecure beta guy.

I feel like i have to invite the purple monster again.

attracting and banging women has never been an issue. It's keeping them around that's difficult for me. I have been very beta in previous relationships and they end badly for me but I have good enough game to attract and bang but my attempts at LTR have been historically foiled by reversions to beta behavior and that's what I'm trying to get rid of. I am by most accounts, a good looking guy and I think that helps with the initial attraction. I'd rather be an average looking guy with strong inner game though.

I think we all have our sticking points in game and this is mine. I am making progress with this but it's a gradual thing that wont happen overnight without experience. Thanks for paying so much attention to all my threads though.

[PDX]

Never in the history of mankind has a girl been hit on by a celebrity and not casually dropped it as jealousy bait. Just the way it goes.

[Keyser Söze]

(04-26-2012 12:37 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 11:27 AM)Klasmatic Wrote:  

I have been dating this girl (solid 8-9) for about 2 months now and she works at a high end clothing store in our city. Almost daily, some local sports star or celeb comes in and shops there and since she is in charge of men's clothing, she has to help them. Well yesterday, a high profile athlete came in and she helped him for about an hour and afterwards he asked for her number. I'm not sure if she gave it to him or not, but she did text me and say "he did ask me for my number..."

that's all she said. This guy is a star MLB player and is obviously much higher status than me. Any ideas how I should handle this? I know this won't be the last time something like this happens. How the hell can I compete with this shit?

Its funny how you started three threads saying you are banging a 9 and saying you're game is better than your friends but in all the threads you come of as an ultra insecure beta guy.

I feel like i have to invite the purple monster again.

Hmmm, damn already responded I think you are right. Does seem kind of odd that a girl that hot who gets attention from celebs would be working in a clothing store.

[Samseau]

Start looking for new women now.


Second, play it off as no big deal. Don't respond to her text. If she brings it up to you in person, I would brush it off with some conversation:

"Yeah, I can imagine how many numbers of girls he asks for each day. When you're a famous athlete, it's easy for girls to sleep with you. You were probably the third girl he got a number of that day. It's funny that we have similar taste in women.

You know what? It sounds like you guys would be a great match. He'd be a good place to get your first STD from."

[PDX]

(04-26-2012 12:47 PM)Keyser Söze Wrote:  

Does seem kind of odd that a girl that hot who gets attention from celebs would be working in a clothing store.

Why?

[Klasmatic]

(04-26-2012 12:47 PM)Keyser Söze Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 12:37 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 11:27 AM)Klasmatic Wrote:  

I have been dating this girl (solid 8-9) for about 2 months now and she works at a high end clothing store in our city. Almost daily, some local sports star or celeb comes in and shops there and since she is in charge of men's clothing, she has to help them. Well yesterday, a high profile athlete came in and she helped him for about an hour and afterwards he asked for her number. I'm not sure if she gave it to him or not, but she did text me and say "he did ask me for my number..."

that's all she said. This guy is a star MLB player and is obviously much higher status than me. Any ideas how I should handle this? I know this won't be the last time something like this happens. How the hell can I compete with this shit?

Its funny how you started three threads saying you are banging a 9 and saying you're game is better than your friends but in all the threads you come of as an ultra insecure beta guy.

I feel like i have to invite the purple monster again.

Hmmm, damn already responded I think you are right. Does seem kind of odd that a girl that hot who gets attention from celebs would be working in a clothing store.

Have you never been to a high-end clothing/department store? young hotties working all over the place. I don't get your statement...

[el mechanico]

(04-26-2012 12:54 PM)Klasmatic Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 12:47 PM)Keyser Söze Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 12:37 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 11:27 AM)Klasmatic Wrote:  

I have been dating this girl (solid 8-9) for about 2 months now and she works at a high end clothing store in our city. Almost daily, some local sports star or celeb comes in and shops there and since she is in charge of men's clothing, she has to help them. Well yesterday, a high profile athlete came in and she helped him for about an hour and afterwards he asked for her number. I'm not sure if she gave it to him or not, but she did text me and say "he did ask me for my number..."

that's all she said. This guy is a star MLB player and is obviously much higher status than me. Any ideas how I should handle this? I know this won't be the last time something like this happens. How the hell can I compete with this shit?

Its funny how you started three threads saying you are banging a 9 and saying you're game is better than your friends but in all the threads you come of as an ultra insecure beta guy.

I feel like i have to invite the purple monster again.

Hmmm, damn already responded I think you are right. Does seem kind of odd that a girl that hot who gets attention from celebs would be working in a clothing store.

Have you never been to a high-end clothing/department store? young hotties working all over the place. I don't get your statement...

True even at Dillards here one of the hottest girls I've ever seen works in the mens dept. I've been trying to throw dick at here for months.

[americanInEurope]

Klasmatic,

I think there are very few guys on this thread that are able to pull from direct experience to give you good solid advice on this one. This site, YES! I think the guy GManifesto and a few others have dated famous chicks or chicks that get hit on by famous guys. But generally I think you're on your own bro. You'll have to trust your own instincts and most importantly, don't let the fact that you may lose her (to this MLB guy or any other higher status guy) affect your decisions. You may lose her, but so what.