Quote: (04-18-2012 12:38 AM)torontokid Wrote:
Quote: (04-17-2012 11:21 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
Quote: (04-17-2012 10:24 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:
Rudebow,
Funny you mentioned that a lot of people would do anything to have a chance of living in Canada, US, UK, OZ, NZ and that's the main argument I'm getting from those too brainwashed and too mainstream is that how come people in those so called developping country are coming in droves to here and those not here yet are ready to do everything to get here? LOL I guess you'd have to have actually been to these places to really understand the reason, which is a futile waste of time discussing or arguing with the mainstream, politically correct "beta" crowd. Speaking of which, that's another huge pet peeve of mine, the PC crowd and PC control. I rejoice each time I speak my mind and they are left speechless with what they just heard....LOL
VP,
The Brainwashing is very bad here, the media keeps shoving down our throats about Canada being the best country or in the top ten.
I told a couple of friends I am leaving several times, yet they cannot understand or fathom what I am saying.
At work, there are a few new guys that have been in Canada a short while. I ask them there thoughts about the place and the answers are always luke warm, never overjoyed. Shit, I knew one girl who went back to India to live.lol
It is funny reading Harry's comments about OZ, alot of similarities with Canada.
Having a Canadian citizenship is very valuable.
Why?
Because Canada is one of the most stable places in the world. Large fresh water sources, no hurricanes and very little severe weather(other than winter storms). Politically its extremely stable. High Standards of living too.
Thats why people immigrate here, a Canadian passport is a solid long term investment. After you have the Canadian passport it doesn't matter where you spend most of your time(SEA or SA). It also allows for easier travel throughout the world and easier immigration to other countries.
I sure as hell wouldn't raise a family here, but eventually getting a Canadian passport will be of far more comfort to me. Trust me, Canada beats India any day.
Also remember that Toronto is a bad representation of Canada. Its one of the most politically correct, feminist infested cities in the world.
I used to drink that kool aid too when I was your age. I viewed Canada as a beacon of stability and laughed at my American friends and family whom I viewed as swirling in a toilet bowl. Then it hit me..... We have it worse then Americans long term.
Canada has only been a legitimate nation for less than 40 years. And has little to know control over its abundance of natural resources. Remember Mulroney? He sold us out for pennies to the Americans and nearly bankrupted our Government. Remember our Queen? yes she's still around. She doesn't bother to care much about us and comes here every 8 years to smell some flowers but she still largely has dominate holding interest on 85% of Canada's land . Remember the USA? are brothers to the South?. They have been the only nation whom has tried to invade us and now largely hold economic, political, and military power over us. America has wanted to carve up Canada since its inception, they largely dominate all sectors of a nation now and hold controlling interest on most areas. We are essentially a satellite state to America like a EE nation was to the USSR. So if America dips.. so do we. Only that we get it twice as worse.
I used to think all those things you said but then I woke up from my dream and realized Canada is just as bleak as any other western nation.
Canada's biggest issue is that one of its positive points. Its stability causes Canada to remain static. For a nation as rich as ours which is only 3% inhabited with such a small population we are some of laziest and unproductive in the G8, and talking in relativity to how rich are nation is we see little to know benefits from are spoils. We are a major oil producer but yet still must ship 80% of our oil to America. Anything East of Toronto has to import oil from the Middle East because America won't allow us to built a true trans-Canada pipeline system. This needlessly wastes tons of our money each year because of petty power and politics.
Canada used to have elite top funded healthcare, cheap post secondary education, and a vibrant research sector that made super-sonic jets, fiber optics, nano-tech, stem cells, and space robotics. Now we just make 2nd rate American stuff like 'Canadian Idol', or hockey players, and shitty beer (America got the best micro-brews right now in North America). We built the first retractable roof stadium (twice), and the largest structure in the world.
Canada had a good 15-20 year run until it was sold off for scrap.
I am selling Canada. there is more opportunity in the States right now. Real talk. More money to be made down there if you know your shit.
I rag on America on this forum but Canada is a even bigger joke than the USA is because Canada is 2nd rate version of it.
Just like overseas western propaganda sells America or other places as beacons of wealth and upward mobility it is largely a fraud. In Canada our propaganda we are reminded how shitty America is and how much better we are than them but the reality is we are dependent on America. America does not need us but we need them, this is that our media fails to hammer in.
Canada and OZ share a lot in common and both are jokes in the grande scheme of things.