Quote: (04-17-2012 11:22 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

it was extremely Americanized, with obesity rates through the roof

ha, we invented obesity!

Its a scam to make money.

We sell you shitty food. You get fat. We sell you diet books and gym memberships. We sell you health services for your obesity caused health issues.

Ever notice how wealthy people are rarely obese? Its always the poor, uneducated, working stiffs.

Rich people know better.

I can't believe you guys allowed yourselves to become Americanized?!?

We scammed you!

America is about marketing.

From Australia, to China, to Nigeria, there is no utopia.

There's feminism in China and Japan too, just on a different level.

Globalization leads to convergence.

You might find a niche once in a while, but after the novelty wears off, reality strikes hard and you realize it's the same shit, with a different set of problems.

Quote: (04-17-2012 07:21 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

@Sam and El Jefe

Not quite sure yet

Options are either South America or Asia. Eastern Europe and Russia I know well, but the weather kills me and I like the outdoors. Africa is not an option at all.

Asia Pros

- Closer to Aus, so friends and family are a short flight. Im closer to Jakarta and KL than I am Sydney anyway.
- Cheaper to live in
- A lot of opportunity business wise for me, and same timezones as Aus
- A lot more diverse
- Better for personal finance and tax
- Options for expats are always good. Schools, healthcare, etc
- Nightlife in most capitals and cities is almost always good.

Asia Cons

- So many languages
- Food would take some getting used to.
- Asians tend to piss me off business wise, and projects can be frustrating to work on.
- Major cultural adjustments required on my part

South America Pros (Brazil is a non option for me to live)

- Asian women are hot at times, but for the most part I like latinas. So hotter women
- Food. Im a big meat eater
- Mining and resources are booming
- Spanish is enough for most of it
- Cultural differences exist, but its not as diverse as Asia due to the similarities with Spanish
- When it comes to the outdoors, offers tons. Asia tends to be beaches and jungle
- Closer to the US, which is where our head office will be relocating in 2014

South America Cons

- Distance and time zones are shit (big thing for me)
- Its more expensive
- More crime and corruption
- Personal finance is a bit of a nightmare, and moving money can be a real pain in the ass

I dont know, need to obviously give it a lot of thought. Its going to be quite a long process, but I have no doubt anymore it has to happen.

What about Panama? Costal Rica? Beliza?

Quote: (04-17-2012 09:31 AM)tomtud Wrote:  

In the west or (Australia) even if you marry a woman from the same socioeconomic class or higher, she can still make your life miserable. For example, its what 5 hours or so from New York City to Los Angeles? If you get divorced in NYC, your wife can take the kids anywhere in that country. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I know that this can happen in Canada. So, you living in NYC, won't see your kids, and when you do, have to travel so far to be put into a hotel room. After, you will see your kids what once every 4 months (average guy) maybe more maybe less, and you are officially out of the loop.

Taxes are necessary to pay for roads, infrastructure etc. I actually support a universal healthcare system. However, there are many programs that I do not support. The problem with the west which is bringing them down is many things. As Harry mentioned, too many people have a sense of entitlement. Listen all of you entitlement seekers, NOBODY owes you anything. Get off your butt, and stop complaining.

In the US, a custodial parent can only move out of the state with the children with consent of the other parent and a court order. The custodial parent can make the request, and the judge has to review it to make sure it's a legit reason, and not just to make it difficult for the non-custodial parent to see the children.

Have you looked into Alabama?

Seriously though, if you decide to head to Argentina you should bring a suitcase full of your blood pressure meds. The govt there just took control of the Spanish owned oil company.

Totally understand Harry. I've been there and done that. Use all your nous to create a lifestyle that you like. If you have money shift it overseas. If you go to South America, keep shifting money out of what ever country you are in to a nice friendly tax haven where you have access to it. Argentina seems particularly fucked up at the moment.

Be careful of the Oz legal system if you intend to make regular trips there. If you have any assets protect them as much as you can, don't get caught in a Paul Hogan situation. Establish your "domicile" and "residence" as somewhere other than Australia, which makes it more difficult for the enemy to drag you back into the system if they decide they don't like you.

Don't you have a draw to Aussie culture and being Australian?
Won't you miss that if you live abroad for too long?

It's funny how natives can find all that's wrong there when outsiders see it as the "Promised Land" and have done for a while.

I have a few Aussie friends that are back living in Melbourne,Adelaide,Sydney after time away and although they have complained of prices and house prices mainly,not much else.

Things work there,that's got to be worth something when it comes to day to day living/raising family.

Although I've never been to Aus I know the feeling of wanting out of your home country ,but i've travelled enough to know I'm lucky having the option to live in the UK,with all it faults.
I reckon I would get sick of a lot of other places,especially 3rd world destinations a lot quicker when it comes to day to day conveniences,and I wouldn't want to live there.
I think the ideal is having the means to travel frequently.

After reading your post I hope you don't turn into this guy






Clive James has a funny take on the feminism and foreign athletes during the Olympics not leaving...but he does live in the UK ..he's also written about the stupidity of Aus going down the multicultural route which might well fuck the place:

Quote: (04-17-2012 07:21 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

@Sam and El Jefe

Not quite sure yet

Options are either South America or Asia. Eastern Europe and Russia I know well, but the weather kills me and I like the outdoors. Africa is not an option at all.

Asia Pros

- Closer to Aus, so friends and family are a short flight. Im closer to Jakarta and KL than I am Sydney anyway.
- Cheaper to live in
- A lot of opportunity business wise for me, and same timezones as Aus
- A lot more diverse
- Better for personal finance and tax
- Options for expats are always good. Schools, healthcare, etc
- Nightlife in most capitals and cities is almost always good.

Asia Cons

- So many languages
- Food would take some getting used to.
- Asians tend to piss me off business wise, and projects can be frustrating to work on.
- Major cultural adjustments required on my part

South America Pros (Brazil is a non option for me to live)

- Asian women are hot at times, but for the most part I like latinas. So hotter women
- Food. Im a big meat eater
- Mining and resources are booming
- Spanish is enough for most of it
- Cultural differences exist, but its not as diverse as Asia due to the similarities with Spanish
- When it comes to the outdoors, offers tons. Asia tends to be beaches and jungle
- Closer to the US, which is where our head office will be relocating in 2014

South America Cons

- Distance and time zones are shit (big thing for me)
- Its more expensive
- More crime and corruption
- Personal finance is a bit of a nightmare, and moving money can be a real pain in the ass

I dont know, need to obviously give it a lot of thought. Its going to be quite a long process, but I have no doubt anymore it has to happen.

Asia is the better choice. Although South America has the hot women advantage, that doesn't outweigh making more money and having the convenience of time zones.

You'll always be able to take pussy trips to South America anyways, so Asia makes more sense.

Plus, if you spent more time in Asia you'd find out where hot foreigners like to go, so you wouldn't be stuck with Asian pussy all the time.

@Pilgrim37 I know loads of Aussies who have spent time overseas and can never go back. IME Aussies who spend a lot of time overseas change in ways that make it very difficult to integrate back into the culture. Of the returnees I know, about half only stay because of job or family commitments, but whisper under their breath how they can't stand it. The other half left again as soon as they found out that they'd go mental if they stayed long in Australia.

Quote: (04-17-2012 11:51 AM)urbannomad Wrote:  

Quote: (04-17-2012 07:21 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

What about Panama? Costal Rica? Beliza?

Later this year I'm going to move to Costa Rica and start the economic citizenship process for Dominica (pay them $135,000 and get citizenship 6-8 months later). Once I get that I'll renounce my American citizenship and then essentially live tax-free on my internet business income. Today being tax day in the USA and sending off a big check that they can waste and or use against me and my values is a good reminder why I'm getting out.

Once in Costa Rica I'll start scouting out the southern Pacific and Lake Arenal areas, various parts of Panama, possibly southern Pacific area of Nicaragua, Ecuador, and Dominican Republic to see where I want to setup shop for my main residence and secondary residence.

Costa Rica seems to be the best of those places to weather major global problems because it's pretty self-sufficient with quality foods (kicked Monsanto out) and renewable energy. Even though I hate American culture, I do need a country that is a little bit Americanized so I don't feel totally alienated and annoyed like I do after 10 days in Colombia.

Good luck Harry. If you're not familiar with http://sovereignman.com I suggest you sign up to his emails because his advices fits you perfectly. Buy his $1,000 dvd's too... money well spent for what you're about to do!

Quote: (04-17-2012 12:47 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

The left wing feeds the military industry complex?

Big Agra?

Big Pharma?

Wall Street?

You're still deep in the Matrix if you view the problems with the U.S. as being a left-v-right thang.

Yes, it is too simple to look at it as just left vs. right.

At this stage in civilization, there's no excuse for people not having basic life necessities: a place to live, nutrition, access to healthcare and education as well as protection (police, fire dept, army, etc.). This is freedom to the essentials, and freedom from the essential dangers.

That may be a simple statement, but it's true, not matter what your politics are.

Most of the world's wealth is concentrated in the "1%" or whatever, and I agree with the OP that taxes are too high for the average person.

We need to completely restructure things so that it's impossible for a 1% to exist while there are people starving etc.

This is a world perspective. Check out Spiral Dynamics for a better idea of what I'm talking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics

And no, I don't believe that every one is special, and I'm skeptical on people being able to change everything about themselves.

Harry,
Spot on and I can also relate to everything you wrote but me for Canada. Each time I return here, I feel more and more distant with everything here, the people, the values, the fattyniess, the attitude and worst of all, this inflated sense of entitlement that is just sickening. I've lost patience with all this and nowadays, I have no trouble putting people in their place at the first sign of attitude or showing any entitlement. Not to mention the women and their horrible attitude, where even fat 3 and 4's behave as princesses...It's just not worth it in any shape or way or form. Just a concrete example: for the price of an average to crappy car (30-40k) here, you can buy a nice condo, fully furnished in LOS or other parts of SEA. Or for the price of a cheap studio in the hoods (in the 150-200k), you can buy a beautiful villa with private beach and swimming pool in LOS and around SEA. Need I say more?

You mentioned taxes being high in OZ, they're crazy here in Canada too. I was talking about all of this with a friend with whom I've been talking about this topic for the last few months and he's finally seeing the light and starting to look at options overseas. If I can save just one person and show them the light, I'd feel fullfilled. I'm in the process of totally unplugging from the matrix here, even looking into getting a a citizenship in Singapore in the next 2-3 years to eventually drop my Canadian one to be totally in peace and removed from any crap here.

To raise a family, in SA, a place like Uruguay or the south of Brasil would be a good place: developped, good weather, not to expensive and within the same timezone than North America. Or even returning to southern Europe (south of France, Spain or Italy or even Portugal). I also hear that LOS is a good place to raise a family and I believe it. One thing for sure, I'm not going to be raising a family in Canada or any Anglophone country, that's for damn sure!

Quote: (04-17-2012 08:55 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Harry,
Spot on and I can also relate to everything you wrote but me for Canada. Each time I return here, I feel more and more distant with everything here, the people, the values, the fattyniess, the attitude and worst of all, this inflated sense of entitlement that is just sickening. I've lost patience with all this and nowadays, I have no trouble putting people in their place at the first sign of attitude or showing any entitlement. Not to mention the women and their horrible attitude, where even fat 3 and 4's behave as princesses...It's just not worth it in any shape or way or form. Just a concrete example: for the price of an average to crappy car (30-40k) here, you can buy a nice condo, fully furnished in LOS or other parts of SEA. Or for the price of a cheap studio in the hoods (in the 150-200k), you can buy a beautiful villa with private beach and swimming pool in LOS and around SEA. Need I say more?

You mentioned taxes being high in OZ, they're crazy here in Canada too. I was talking about all of this with a friend with whom I've been talking about this topic for the last few months and he's finally seeing the light and starting to look at options overseas. If I can save just one person and show them the light, I'd feel fullfilled. I'm in the process of totally unplugging from the matrix here, even looking into getting a a citizenship in Singapore in the next 2-3 years to eventually drop my Canadian one to be totally in peace and removed from any crap here.

To raise a family, in SA, a place like Uruguay or the south of Brasil would be a good place: developped, good weather, not to expensive and within the same timezone than North America. Or even returning to southern Europe (south of France, Spain or Italy or even Portugal). I also hear that LOS is a good place to raise a family and I believe it. One thing for sure, I'm not going to be raising a family in Canada or any Anglophone country, that's for damn sure!

V.P., what is "LOS"?

LOS=Land of Smiles aka Thailand.

Great post Harry!
I for one am anxious to see where you end up, I feel your pain because I am in the same boat as you - bored with Canada.
VP summed it up nicely, I just have to find my place in the sun.
It is funny I know so many people that would give anything to live in OZ and Canada, but yet Rooshites are counting down the days to they leave.

Rudebow,
Funny you mentioned that a lot of people would do anything to have a chance of living in Canada, US, UK, OZ, NZ and that's the main argument I'm getting from those too brainwashed and too mainstream is that how come people in those so called developping country are coming in droves to here and those not here yet are ready to do everything to get here? LOL I guess you'd have to have actually been to these places to really understand the reason, which is a futile waste of time discussing or arguing with the mainstream, politically correct "beta" crowd. Speaking of which, that's another huge pet peeve of mine, the PC crowd and PC control. I rejoice each time I speak my mind and they are left speechless with what they just heard....LOL

Whilst by and large I completely agree with your views about the current state of Australia Harry, its refreshing to see there are still some powerbrokers out there with a good head on their shoulders;

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/lnp-m...6331445831

That said, I intend on going the same way as you and hit the road indefinitely in January. I am sick of paying almost 50% of my hard earned to the Australian tax department and watching it go to an absurd social welfare system that rewards laziness, complacency and entitlement.

Something is very wrong when a woman can randomly pop out a child and be rewarded with a $5000 lump sum of cash and ongoing assistance, whereas a battler who has a disability is only given a mere $300/week to survive on. It is heartbreaking to see one of the most economically blessed and resource rich countries in the world progressively deteriorate from the inside out due to our government.

Coupled with the social issues you have mentioned, it makes no sense to remain here in the long term as we are going the way of the USA culturally.

Quote: (04-17-2012 02:47 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  

Don't you have a draw to Aussie culture and being Australian?
Won't you miss that if you live abroad for too long?

It's funny how natives can find all that's wrong there when outsiders see it as the "Promised Land" and have done for a while.

I have a few Aussie friends that are back living in Melbourne,Adelaide,Sydney after time away and although they have complained of prices and house prices mainly,not much else.

Things work there,that's got to be worth something when it comes to day to day living/raising family.

Although I've never been to Aus I know the feeling of wanting out of your home country ,but i've travelled enough to know I'm lucky having the option to live in the UK,with all it faults.
I reckon I would get sick of a lot of other places,especially 3rd world destinations a lot quicker when it comes to day to day conveniences,and I wouldn't want to live there.
I think the ideal is having the means to travel frequently.

After reading your post I hope you don't turn into this guy

Clive James has a funny take on the feminism and foreign athletes during the Olympics not leaving...but he does live in the UK ..he's also written about the stupidity of Aus going down the multicultural route which might well fuck the place:

Quote: (04-17-2012 02:47 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  

Don't you have a draw to Aussie culture and being Australian?
Won't you miss that if you live abroad for too long?

It's funny how natives can find all that's wrong there when outsiders see it as the "Promised Land" and have done for a while.

I have a few Aussie friends that are back living in Melbourne,Adelaide,Sydney after time away and although they have complained of prices and house prices mainly,not much else.

Things work there,that's got to be worth something when it comes to day to day living/raising family.

Although I've never been to Aus I know the feeling of wanting out of your home country ,but i've travelled enough to know I'm lucky having the option to live in the UK,with all it faults.
I reckon I would get sick of a lot of other places,especially 3rd world destinations a lot quicker when it comes to day to day conveniences,and I wouldn't want to live there.
I think the ideal is having the means to travel frequently.

What I am about to say is relevant to more than Australia.

Australia is probably one of the best countries in the world to live in if you are middle class. Low unemployment, strong economy, high standard of living and a pretty decent quality of life for the most part. It provides the security of cheap healthcare and education, is rich in natural resources and for the most part is not headed for any major collapse soon. If you were going to compare it to most countries, I would say on average its probably the best country in the world to live in at the moment with all its safety nets.

But that does not change the fact that its completely and utterly dysfunctional for men.

If I had to get married here, I hand my balls over. Spouses have rights to trust funds, shareholding in private companies, assets accrued during marriage and sometimes before. They even have rights to inheritance and pension funds, not to mention holdings outside Australia when found. Government runs hardcore audits on men in divorce ensuring they are not trying to hide things. The women know this too, which is why once they settle down they turn into a bigger nightmare than they were before. Take their bullshit drama, throw into the mix the comfort of knowing she can take you for everything, and you have a petty child ruling your life the minute you put a ring on the finger.

Then there is the issue of children. I have zero rights as a father, and I am seeing it with friends and family that have gone through it or going through it. The women make visitation a nightmare, drum up bullshit claims and constantly drag the men into court over the smallest thing to squeeze harder. It breaks them.

Then its a case of raising kids here. Do I want to raise sons in a place where misandry is the order of the day and they spend their entire lives being force fed how bad it is to be a man? Do I want to raise daughters in a place where drunken whoring is considered normal behavior and women are taught to distrust and disrespect men?

So for all the comforts and safety nets, I cant raise a family here. Even if I dont lose half my shit, my kids stand a good chance of being chewed up and spat out. As a man, I cannot realistically have a family without taking it up the ass for the rest of my life.

Next up is family and friends. As will be the same with most people you know, they all jump into the life society expects from them. University, 50 hour a week job, wife, kids, mortgage, new car every three years. And in the process they end up trapped in an existence where their wives rule their every movement under penalty of losing kids and half their shit. When you see the sort of guys who used to have multiple women on the go, broken down to the point where they need to phone and ask permission to stay and have a drink after a round of golf, or need to plan 3 weeks in advance to go fishing, you realise that your friends are unreliable slaves living the "Australian Dream"

Then there is the matter of business. Business is gradually becoming so heavily legislated and governed that you cant take a shit without a 6 week application process and an induction plan. Everything from employing people to renting an office is so complicated you are constantly being suffocated under a weight of regulation. For that, we are expected to pay ridiculously high levels of corporate and personal tax (which is basically like a double taxation when you are a shareholder) only to be utterly despised by the very middle class you prop up. Im honestly sick to death of it. Why am I busting my ass like this only to be treated like I am the scum of the earth constantly trying to rip everyone and everything off?

Then there is a matter of local culture. Its was interesting reading Roosh's views on Jantes Law, because what he saw there is similar to what we see in Australia. There is this ingrained fear in Australians that someone may get ahead. The need to cut this down results in a race to the bottom with Australians, hence the perception that we are simple minded douchebags. While Scandinavians take pride in the belief that they know everything already, Australians take pride in the fact that they are nothing more than big kids who dont take anything seriously. We call it Tall Poppy Syndrome here, and it gets worse the better you do.

Then there are the women. They are worthy of nothing but painful anal sex these days. I cannot remember the last time I actually met an Aussie girl who was not fucked in the head to some degree. The level of vice is disgusting. They are either drunks, druggies, obese, whores or so utterly selfish and delusional they are like walking parodies. They brag about the fact that they cant cook or are messy. They dress like shit, and I have seen what should be solid 8's and 9's wearing tracksuit pants or pajamas with their uggs out the house. They wear excessive makeup or no makeup at all, they are rude, have no respect for themselves or other people and are so inked up with tattoos these days it feels like every girl I fucked has come straight out of prison.

Pros

- Cheap healthcare
- Nice roads
- Lots of jobs
- Great housing
- Civil services work well
- Welfare entitlements
- High standard of living

Cons

- Cant have a family
- Women are disgusting
- Friends have sold their souls to satan
- You can have a job, but try and give someone a job and you are scum
- Shallow, sick culture

Im starting to realise that the pro's are not more important than what I have to give up to enjoy them

Quote: (04-17-2012 10:30 PM)Lukey Wrote:  

Whilst by and large I completely agree with your views about the current state of Australia Harry, its refreshing to see there are still some powerbrokers out there with a good head on their shoulders;

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/lnp-m...6331445831

That said, I intend on going the same way as you and hit the road indefinitely in January. I am sick of paying almost 50% of my hard earned to the Australian tax department and watching it go to an absurd social welfare system that rewards laziness, complacency and entitlement.

Something is very wrong when a woman can randomly pop out a child and be rewarded with a $5000 lump sum of cash and ongoing assistance, whereas a battler who has a disability is only given a mere $300/week to survive on. It is heartbreaking to see one of the most economically blessed and resource rich countries in the world progressively deteriorate from the inside out due to our government.

Coupled with the social issues you have mentioned, it makes no sense to remain here in the long term as we are going the way of the USA culturally.

Its not the country we grew up in anymore is it?

I come from a blue collar home. Parents and grandparents are/were immigrants, so in the old days treated like second class citizens at times. You were forced to integrate or you were shunned, but everyone took pride in being Australian because those that came appreciated what they had.Growing up, families were important and communities meant something to people. Its what built this country.

Australians have always been easy going people, but they were never this fucking soft. Everyone wants something for nothing now, and government intervention into every aspect of our lives has become ridiculous. Its reaching the point where its forced redistribution of wealth and labour. The values have changed for the worse too, with people rejecting everything that made Australia what it is today.

Quote: (04-17-2012 10:24 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Rudebow,
Funny you mentioned that a lot of people would do anything to have a chance of living in Canada, US, UK, OZ, NZ and that's the main argument I'm getting from those too brainwashed and too mainstream is that how come people in those so called developping country are coming in droves to here and those not here yet are ready to do everything to get here? LOL I guess you'd have to have actually been to these places to really understand the reason, which is a futile waste of time discussing or arguing with the mainstream, politically correct "beta" crowd. Speaking of which, that's another huge pet peeve of mine, the PC crowd and PC control. I rejoice each time I speak my mind and they are left speechless with what they just heard....LOL

VP,
The Brainwashing is very bad here, the media keeps shoving down our throats about Canada being the best country or in the top ten.
I told a couple of friends I am leaving several times, yet they cannot understand or fathom what I am saying.
At work, there are a few new guys that have been in Canada a short while. I ask them there thoughts about the place and the answers are always luke warm, never overjoyed. Shit, I knew one girl who went back to India to live.lol
It is funny reading Harry's comments about OZ, alot of similarities with Canada.

Quote: (04-17-2012 11:21 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Quote: (04-17-2012 10:24 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Rudebow,
Funny you mentioned that a lot of people would do anything to have a chance of living in Canada, US, UK, OZ, NZ and that's the main argument I'm getting from those too brainwashed and too mainstream is that how come people in those so called developping country are coming in droves to here and those not here yet are ready to do everything to get here? LOL I guess you'd have to have actually been to these places to really understand the reason, which is a futile waste of time discussing or arguing with the mainstream, politically correct "beta" crowd. Speaking of which, that's another huge pet peeve of mine, the PC crowd and PC control. I rejoice each time I speak my mind and they are left speechless with what they just heard....LOL

VP,
The Brainwashing is very bad here, the media keeps shoving down our throats about Canada being the best country or in the top ten.
I told a couple of friends I am leaving several times, yet they cannot understand or fathom what I am saying.
At work, there are a few new guys that have been in Canada a short while. I ask them there thoughts about the place and the answers are always luke warm, never overjoyed. Shit, I knew one girl who went back to India to live.lol
It is funny reading Harry's comments about OZ, alot of similarities with Canada.

Having a Canadian citizenship is very valuable.

Why?

Because Canada is one of the most stable places in the world. Large fresh water sources, no hurricanes and very little severe weather(other than winter storms). Politically its extremely stable. High Standards of living too.

Thats why people immigrate here, a Canadian passport is a solid long term investment. After you have the Canadian passport it doesn't matter where you spend most of your time(SEA or SA). It also allows for easier travel throughout the world and easier immigration to other countries.

I sure as hell wouldn't raise a family here, but eventually getting a Canadian passport will be of far more comfort to me. Trust me, Canada beats India any day.

Also remember that Toronto is a bad representation of Canada. Its one of the most politically correct, feminist infested cities in the world.

Quote: (04-18-2012 12:38 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

Having a Canadian citizenship is very valuable.

That depends on Canada's laws. I'm not sure how it works in Canada, but for guys from the US it can be a nightmare because the IRS chase US expats all over the world for tax. It's so bad, that a lot of guys give up their US citizenship for precisely this reason.

Australia doesn't have this taxation of expats yet, but it has been floated by several governments, so it could be coming.

It also depends on how you are treated once in the country. Australia likes to refuse the right of its citizens to travel. Paul Hogan is the high-profile media case of this, but there are many more that don't make the papers. Does Canada do this too?

So, the thing is that it depends. You need to way up pros and cons and see what works for you. IMV, you also need to be willing to renounce or take up citizenships when it is advantageous to do so.

Quote: (04-17-2012 10:50 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

....and are so inked up with tattoos these days it feels like every girl I fucked has come straight out of prison....

Epic post Harry.

Urghh, couldn't agree more on the tatoo thing. I don't know why women get tatoos. It never adds to their beauty. Almost always detracts from it. The "best" thing to be said about them is that they are "slut tells", so if you want an easy lay...

Unfortunately I am not a mega-rich guy who could actually set this in motion myself, but I've been thinking that an absolutely brilliant business idea would be to develop a simple, cheap and effective tatoo removal product/process. There are so many stupid people getting tatoos deluding themselves that the feelings they have about them in the present moment will last "forever eva", that the market is, and will continue to be, massive.

I know it's easy to imagine such a system, but obviously would require many years research and testing to yield a commercial product. If it is even physically possible. But medical VC firms really need to be looking into this. The first to market with a product that removes tatoos at a fraction of the current (very expensive) cost of lasers makes billions....

Having a passport from a few certain countries does ease any travel restrictions to certain countries that it has treaties with. For example, if Harry decides to set up shop on Thailand. Well, even though it's not Australia, it does have many things Aus doesn't have. There are excellent international schools he old send his kids too, there are world class beaches. Year round summer weather for the most part. Can live like a king on a lower wage compared to Australia. Many examples of positives and dare say negatives. Buddy of mine got back from Thailand, gotta get the scoop.

I am currently an expat. I have the ability to work anywhere in the world. I miss my friends and family of course, but life goes on, you get on with it and you are less home sick. Trick is to get ut of the house, do things and meet people. I know people who had a ball in Saudi Arabia. Of course I miss going out with the "gang" but when I speak to a few they tell me nothing has changed, same old. They go more or less to the same spots and the redundancy of nightlife has nothing to show for except a smaller bank account.

Quote: (04-18-2012 12:38 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

Also remember that Toronto is a bad representation of Canada. Its one of the most politically correct, feminist infested cities in the world.

This statement by the man child is a Golden statement in its own.

People should never judge Canada based on Toronto. Toronto is its own beast.

I personally don't think it has much to offer besides being very close to the American border (so I can drive over for my day or weekend shopping).

If travel wasn't so arm and leg expensive in the country maybe more people would travel more around the country and realise that Toronto is not the life and heart of Canada. It tries to be but for those without jaded pupils, we can see it for the farce that it is.

I've had more fun in a third world village than partying with these drones on Richmond street.

If more people were able to travel more across the country, they would find that there are much more gems elsewhere and this would lower thise sense of self entitlement that the fat and hairy iguanas have here (Toronto).