[ksbms]

Was on a date with a Singaporean girl (just decent, no playmate material even remotely), vibe was excellent though, she seemed to have great time (myself as well), as she minutes after the date enthusiastically texted me she enjoyed it and we should meet up next week, yada, yada, yada.

Looked like it was in the bag, set a meet up next Saturday, she confirmed, just to text me a day before she had a job interview (sic!) via Skype on Saturday morning and... Saturday evening!

Who does job interviews on Saturday evenings?!

She didn't counter-offer which made me 99.9% certain that was dead in the water (ok, there was me 0.1% thinking it was 'live" ) but texted back we should just get a tea in the meantime just to see if she would be a decent human being and would do the honourable thing - a straightforward reply along the lines "sorry, I'm not interested anymore" or "I'm not that into you after thinking about it deeply".

Of course, radio silence. I don't remember if it happened in the entire career of mine as a third-rate playboy a girl would act as an adult and communicate in such a way. Women want equal rights, but, hey, equal duties... Forget them!

Deleted number. Cheeky monkey, though, as bumped into her around uni, she asked me how I was. Gave her one sentence reply and went back to my business. Go figure women.

And that was that.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

(08-14-2016 10:03 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

Stop sexy talking with these girls before you even meet.

If she wants to dirty talk then meet up that same night.

American and Canadian girls love doing that. In my experience, European and Latina girls will have you over the same night or next day.

Right...most likely these girls are coming down with a classic case of cold feet. It's one thing to show off her 36DD's or send an ass shot but quite another to show up on a guy's doorstep in nothing on but a trenchcoat. She knows why she's coming over and some girls will still need plausible deniability.

When you take the sexytalk route, you not only fill her need for attention and to be desired but let out all the air out of the ballon-The Mystery. The most valuable tool you have is her imagination, so you have to pique the interest, spike her emotions while you make sure you leave her wanting.

Leave her in suspense like those old cliffhanger movies where the hero is left for dead on the train tracks with the train fast approaching.
...'Will Batman make it, tune in next week!'

Don't get me wrong, I've gotten laid off phonesex, but most times it was either luck or I was closing the deal the same night or next day. Anything past that and you will have to "microwave' her to bring her buying temp back up all over again.

I never sexy talk until I'm in position to lay her. Most times it's the complete opposite where sex is implied but never discussed unless

1) She brings it up, which she inevitably will especially if you are hitting all the attraction buttons up to that point

2)Or wonder aloud why I haven't mentioned it "like the other guys that are interested".

[DonnyGately]

(08-15-2016 02:42 PM)Graft Wrote:  

A flake to me is a girl that makes plans with me and then ghosts or cancels. Happens about 30% of the time to me.

I doubt I give off a creepy vibe, but definitely arrogant douche vibe.

A girl that actively cancels you is not a flake, c'mon man. She is clearly telling you she is not interested. Perhaps you need to run more comfort game, I dunno.

[booshala]

Got flaked/ghosted on by this girl off of SA... 20 year old college student near me. We went out once and I finger blasted her in the car after the first date but couldn't close because I had to go back to work. Tried to meet up twice after that but the first time she had a lame excuse about her cat and the second time she completely ghosted. Chalked it up to the game.

Same girl ended up messaging me a few days ago saying "hi" like nothing even happened. When I called her out on ghosting by asking her, "how do I know if you're not going to play games again" she didn't apologize or justify her actions, instead saying that the timing wasn't right before. No apologies or grandiose excuses.

Normally, I wouldn't give this a second thought about ignoring this girl but three factors are giving me second thoughts: 1) she's easily in the top 5 of most attractive girls I've been physical with 2) In person demeanor is exactly my style as she's demure, submissive and conservative minded (she came from voting for Trump in the primaries on our first date) and 3) I still haven't nailed this bitch yet.

Maintaining radio silence after this last response, and I'm leaning towards letting it go because of the disrespect... but I'm not going to lie and say that I'm not seriously considering jumping off my ideological soapbox because of #3 above.

[arafat scarf]

Girl who used to be a customer where I work hits me up and wants to meet to and either get coffee, dinner or watch something at one of our places.

I say okay and schedule drinks at a bar at 7:30 and she agrees to meet me. Said she wanted to go somewhere 'quiet-ish'.

Thirty minutes before 7:30, girl messages me telling me she's really sorry, she has food poisoning and that she's in no shape to leave the house and 'go out with a cute guy this evening'. Girl knows I'm leaving my hometown for a long time and says she promises to see me when I get back.

oh that sucks feel better soon

Charge it to the game.

[Snowplow]

This milf and I had plans to bang all weekend. We have hooked up in the past. Plan was to pick her up Friday after I got out of work. I texted her early on Friday to make sure we were still on. Nothing. I was just about done with my shift, texted her again. Nil. It's unlike this one, she can't get enough of me. She was even telling me she wants to keep me as a side piece of she gets in a relationship. I'll wait and see what happens with this.

In the mean time I'll use this free time to chase down some more. Ain't no rest for the player.

[Chunnel]

Had an interesting one tonight. Matched a hot 20 year old on Tinder, got the number today and she immediately invites me over for "food and Netflix". It's game on.

So she texts me her address and I start heading over. Now being in a college town, she lives on a quintessential dingy college street with rundown houses and no street sign or address markers. So I call her to actually find what house is here. Nothing. She calls back, and no connection is made.

Then She texts how her phone is on the Fritz blah blah blah. After a few more back and forth calls with no answers, she says she's outside on her street waiting for me. There ain't a soul in sight, and the only three options seem to be either I'm on the wrong street, she's lying through her teeth, or she typed in the wrong address in the text.

So I bounced not feeling like putting up with anymore bullshit for the night. The strangest part is the image of the house that came up on Google maps was some busted ass garage with no lights or door that I could see. I'm real curious to see how this one plays out, see what kind of excuses are made, and does she really live in a garage fit for a stable boy??

[Merenguero]

^^^
If she flakes again, you might just want to give her number to Slobber Bob the next time you are in Ocean City. He'll know what to do.

[Naughty By Nature]

Out here in LA, if I DON'T get flaked, I'm in shock.

A girl agreeing on a day 2 out here AND showing up is a veritable miracle.

[Player_1337]

Tinder chick. Requested the digits quick after implying meeting.

Me: hey (nickname/teasing based on earlier convo) it's Player_1337.
Her: Haha hey : )

Next day-
Me: meet at TIME tomorrow. wonder woman attire encouraged (based on one of her pics)
Her: Haha where are we going?
Me: VENUE NAME
Her: Ok : )

She sent the following today ~4 hours before scheduled meet:

Her: Hey I'm sorry I can't meet you tonight, something came up at work :/


Mediocre excuse with no offer of reschedule. Should I send something curt or joking- or just go radio silent for a few days? Eh, she's probably just attention whoring.

[Unchained]

(10-26-2016 05:18 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  

Tinder chick. Requested the digits quick after implying meeting.

Me: hey (nickname/teasing based on earlier convo) it's Player_1337.
Her: Haha hey : )

Next day-
Me: meet at TIME tomorrow. wonder woman attire encouraged (based on one of her pics)
Her: Haha where are we going?
Me: VENUE NAME
Her: Ok : )

She sent the following today ~4 hours before scheduled meet:

Her: Hey I'm sorry I can't meet you tonight, something came up at work :/


Mediocre excuse with no offer of reschedule. Should I send something curt or joking- or just go radio silent for a few days? Eh, she's probably just attention whoring.

I had a flake last Friday. I almost didn't count it as a flake but she still texted me cancelling. Here's why I already wrote her off.

I text her on Thursday, we're going back and forth, I make the plans and she never responds with an affirmation. At all. In my head I knew she was bullshitting so I already wrote her off. Rude bitch goes radio silent after I tell her plans? Fucking cunt.

Then an hour before the "date" she says she doesn't feel good.

What? I already wrote you off bitch you think I expected us to go on a date when you went silent on me? I didn't even respond though.

This is why I can't date a lot of girls. There has to be something better than this disrespectful bullshit. I know according to "the game" I'm supposed to reinitiate this weekend like nothing happened and escalate as usual to secure the bang but fuck why? I already feel disrespected. She's already shown me she's low value because she clearly doesn't value my time and had better shit to do and didn't offer a reschedule. This is the typical western woman.

Why the fuck am I continuing to chase her? But the market is so fucked up here putting up with this bullshit is what it takes to have any type of sex life. This is so sad.

Meet a girl, have fun, dance, make out, get her number, then she plays mind games, ignores you, disrespects your time, and you have to chase her. For what? Cuz she has a pussy and a fat ass.

I find it difficult to respect women who flake on me. I'm out here trying to sleep with women who force me to genuinely dislike them.

[angryrussian]

I set up several dates through Tinder and they all have flaked on me the same way. They would agree to a date. A day before I would text them a time and confirmation. They either just don't respond or agree and then don't show without saying anything.

I think I am going to start telling them I will pick them up instead of meeting them at a midway point. I am a college student, so it is always close by on campus.

I don't know if I should even bother rescheduling with them because it seems like a waste of time and needy. I wonder what I am doing wrong. I probably do not establish enough comfort with them, but I'm not sure how I should go about doing.

[Unchained]

(10-26-2016 08:45 PM)angryrussian Wrote:  

I set up several dates through Tinder and they all have flaked on me the same way. They would agree to a date. A day before I would text them a time and confirmation. They either just don't respond or agree and then don't show without saying anything.

I think I am going to start telling them I will pick them up instead of meeting them at a midway point. I am a college student, so it is always close by on campus.

I don't know if I should even bother rescheduling with them because it seems like a waste of time and needy. I wonder what I am doing wrong. I probably do not establish enough comfort with them, but I'm not sure how I should go about doing.

Get off Tinder and start approaching in real life. You can't "build comfort" through a screen. There's guys out here getting flaked on by women they've made out with, gone on dates with, and sometimes even had sex with so of course the rates are going to be way worse if you rely on Tinder.

There's nothing to do right or wrong sometimes. Just do what you do and hope for the best. Prior to contrary belief, you can do things "right" and still not get what you want. Life isn't a videogame where you can just input the combination and always get the result.

[JWLZG]

I've been seeing quite a fair few flakes this year — I haven't been logging them down like in the Approach thread, this is the most recent, and I might recount a few more.

Matched with a 7.5 on Tinder last Tuesday night.

I was sensing good receptivity so went a bit more direct, she suggested meeting on Wednesday; and we went for the number close.

I initiated a bit more banter over text message the next day, and took the chance to find out where she was located — aiming for a zero-date bang. She teased me for saying that I'd be moving house near her this week ("Counting the chickens there [pet form of my real name]?"). I conceded suggesting to meet at a location more in between us.

Pretty soon, she texted saying that she had had a migraine bothering her all day and asked if we could postpone, apologising.

She seemed a bit more legit than my previous flakes, as she sent me a longwinded message explaining that she's pretty frequently, and that they pop out of nowhere and ruin her plans, emphasising that she explained in this much depth as she did want to meet.

We've scheduled for tomorrow and exchanged a bit more text banter since then. Given how invested she seems, a bang seems to be given, but she's right, I shouldn't count my chickens.

[Rhyme or Reason]

30 Year old bumble chick i was supposed to hang out with last night flaked, excuse was that she pinched a nerve in her neck. That's a first for me.

[articulatecool]

28 year old 8.5 (from pics) tinder chick just flaked an hour before we were supposed to hung out.

We matched Sunday, talked on the phone Sunday and Monday, she text me in the morning yesterday (Tuesday) and we were supposed to meet today (Wednesday). I text her saying I'll see her in an hour and she responds "I'm not interested anymore-" And she was the one who picked tonight to hang out.

No excuse, reschedule, anything. This feels like it has to be some terrible joke. I am so tempted to text back asking if something is wrong but I know I should "next" this stupid bitch for being so disrespectful.

What would you guys do?

[Vincent Chase]

(11-30-2016 08:29 PM)articulatecool Wrote:  

28 year old 8.5 (from pics) tinder chick just flaked an hour before we were supposed to hung out.

We matched Sunday, talked on the phone Sunday and Monday, she text me in the morning yesterday (Tuesday) and we were supposed to meet today (Wednesday). I text her saying I'll see her in an hour and she responds "I'm not interested anymore-" And she was the one who picked tonight to hang out.

No excuse, reschedule, anything. This feels like it has to be some terrible joke. I am so tempted to text back asking if something is wrong but I know I should "next" this stupid bitch for being so disrespectful.

What would you guys do?

Delete her number, she doesn't give a fuck about you.

[articulatecool]

(11-30-2016 09:33 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

Delete her number, she doesn't give a fuck about you.

I'm amazed that we had such engaging conversations for an hour each night (I initiated the call and ended it by letting her go) and she was the enthusiastic one that wanted to hang out tonight.

My girl friend said she cancelled on guys night of only because there was another guy.

My gut feeling was she did some research on me and found out dirt and/or was it the fact I was pretty much silent all day today?

I seem to have trouble with the "quality" ones. What a prime example of AWALT.

[Naughty By Nature]

Anyone who gets flaked on in online dating shouldn't be in this thread. That's not a real flake. You never even met the woman face-to-face. For all you know, it's a fat gay guy with chicken wing stains on his shirt, lurking in his mom's basement, catfishing you.

There's zero excuse to do online dating, unless you are literally immobile and can't leave your house, you live in Ethiopia or some shit, or you work 100 hours/week (zero chance anyone on here works anywhere close to that much).

Every second on online dating is a second wasted. You're making zero progress with girls and you're looking for the quick and dirty way out as a replacement to actually approaching and putting yourself on the line.

[Roardog]

Got flaked on the other Friday night. We were supposed to meet up at 8pm but she got stuck at work until midnight. She has some crazy Korean boss who seems to think because he doesn't have any plans on a Friday night then his employees must not either.
It was one of those annoying flakes though where she didn't think she'd be stuck there so long so it started with "I'm going to be late", to "just another hour" etc.
Not her fault and genuinely remorseful but a waste of my night.

In the opposite direction I've been flaking a fair bit on girls recently. I've got one plate I need to ditch as I'm just not into her any more and can't be bothered spending time with her outside the bedroom, but she's caught feelings for me, so I find myself flaking on her all time. She's not getting the hint.
Another girl I flaked on because a meeting ran too late and I couldn't be bothered having her come over at 11pm when I had to get up for work the next day.
3rd girl I flaked on tonight in favour of meeting up with my main girl.

[jselysianeagle]

(12-01-2016 03:14 AM)articulatecool Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 09:33 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

Delete her number, she doesn't give a fuck about you.

I'm amazed that we had such engaging conversations for an hour each night (I initiated the call and ended it by letting her go) and she was the enthusiastic one that wanted to hang out tonight.

My girl friend said she cancelled on guys night of only because there was another guy.

My gut feeling was she did some research on me and found out dirt and/or was it the fact I was pretty much silent all day today?

I seem to have trouble with the "quality" ones. What a prime example of AWALT.

Don't sweat it, we've all been there. Women can be weird like that. Looking back now, there's been at least a dozen, probably more, cases where I felt I had really hit it off with a chic, walking away thinking to myself that this cat was in the bag, only to never see or hear from her again. And then there's been just as many cases where I felt I had zero chance of even seeing her again, but I actually got laid.

So when she flakes/fades/vanishes, it's usually one of two things - another guy, or she wasn't that interested in you to begin with, despite what you thought.

Plenty of other fish in the sea...

(12-01-2016 03:25 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

Anyone who gets flaked on in online dating shouldn't be in this thread. That's not a real flake. You never even met the woman face-to-face. For all you know, it's a fat gay guy with chicken wing stains on his shirt, lurking in his mom's basement, catfishing you.

There's zero excuse to do online dating, unless you are literally immobile and can't leave your house, you live in Ethiopia or some shit, or you work 100 hours/week (zero chance anyone on here works anywhere close to that much).

Every second on online dating is a second wasted. You're making zero progress with girls and you're looking for the quick and dirty way out as a replacement to actually approaching and putting yourself on the line.

I wouldn't take as extreme a position as you, as I know guys who do really well online. Heck I know guys who haven't gotten even a phone number their entire lives in real life, but are able to at least get dates because of their cleverly taken pictures and meticulously crafted profiles. And if you're especially attractive, you can have almost an endless amount of pussy especially in a large city, from OLD.

It's never worked for me, personally, so I stick to real life gaming, but to each his own...

[Vincent Chase]

(12-01-2016 03:14 AM)articulatecool Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 09:33 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

Delete her number, she doesn't give a fuck about you.

I'm amazed that we had such engaging conversations for an hour each night (I initiated the call and ended it by letting her go) and she was the enthusiastic one that wanted to hang out tonight.

My girl friend said she cancelled on guys night of only because there was another guy.

My gut feeling was she did some research on me and found out dirt and/or was it the fact I was pretty much silent all day today?

I seem to have trouble with the "quality" ones. What a prime example of AWALT.

Don't bother trying to use logic to rationalise why she's hot one second and couldn't give a fuck about you the next.

But I will explain to you why women behave this way, you are obviously a newbie. This is normal.

It is a combination of the following:
1) The average human being is a complete idiot and doesn't know what the fuck he's/she's doing from one minute to the next. The younger they are the more stupid they are typically.
2) Women have little accountability in society and can and will do as they like.
3) Millennial are the attention deficit generation.
4) Women have a million and one options. As such one guy means little to them, especially one off the fucking Internet she never met.
5) Women are extremely pragmatic on dating and are ruthless as their survival depends on it.
6) Women are more driven by emotions. RSD refer to this behaviour as "temporary truths".
7) You are a virtual entity on her fucking phone, like the Tamagotchi she grew up with. You are not real to her. Flaking on you means nothing to her.

[XPQ22]

(12-01-2016 03:13 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

It is a combination of the following:
1) The average human being is a complete idiot and doesn't know what the fuck he's/she's doing from one minute to the next. The younger they are the more stupid they are typically.
2) Women have little accountability in society and can and will do as they like.
3) Millennial are the attention deficit generation.
4) Women have a million and one options. As such one guy means little to them, especially one off the fucking Internet she never met.
5) Women are extremely pragmatic on dating and are ruthless as their survival depends on it.
6) Women are more driven by emotions. RSD refer to this behaviour as "temporary truths".
7) You are a virtual entity on her fucking phone, like the Tamagotchi she grew up with. You are not real to her. Flaking on you means nothing to her.

I agree with most of the points here! It's silly to worry why this woman or that flakes on you. I expect the flake these days and always make backup plans; I know a decent number of night game spots in both Boston and Providence and at least try to schedule the meet somewhere nearby so I can bounce to somewhere else I want to be if she bails last minute or is otherwise cold.

Maybe there's another guy she flaked on the OP for. Maybe not. It doesn't matter because I always assume every girl I meet is banging someone else anyway. Which is why I don't waste a lot of time texting/chatting with girls online before meeting them - it's like being cucked right off the bat!

[AneroidOcean]

(12-01-2016 03:55 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(12-01-2016 03:13 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

It is a combination of the following:
1) The average human being is a complete idiot and doesn't know what the fuck he's/she's doing from one minute to the next. The younger they are the more stupid they are typically.
2) Women have little accountability in society and can and will do as they like.
3) Millennial are the attention deficit generation.
4) Women have a million and one options. As such one guy means little to them, especially one off the fucking Internet she never met.
5) Women are extremely pragmatic on dating and are ruthless as their survival depends on it.
6) Women are more driven by emotions. RSD refer to this behaviour as "temporary truths".
7) You are a virtual entity on her fucking phone, like the Tamagotchi she grew up with. You are not real to her. Flaking on you means nothing to her.

I agree with most of the points here! It's silly to worry why this woman or that flakes on you. I expect the flake these days and always make backup plans; I know a decent number of night game spots in both Boston and Providence and at least try to schedule the meet somewhere nearby so I can bounce to somewhere else I want to be if she bails last minute or is otherwise cold.

Maybe there's another guy she flaked on the OP for. Maybe not. It doesn't matter because I always assume every girl I meet is banging someone else anyway. Which is why I don't waste a lot of time texting/chatting with girls online before meeting them. It's like being cucked right off the bat!

All this said, you should still analyze your own game to see if there's something you could improve on in the future. It may not make all the difference in this particular case, but if you improve your game to it's maximum it will help minimize flaking and get you better quality girls in general.

[torridon747]

Girls flake on me all the time. I don't take it personally.

I've been hitting online dating pretty hard but i've got 3 flakes just this week.

1st girl
Have some pretty decent conversation, she tells me how awkword she is and how much of a spaz she is. Text back and fourth for a day or so. I asked her to coffee to start out with and she said yes. Then in the evening we started texting back and fourth a little more, when it comes time to confirm location she goes ghost. No suprise there. I actually put her in my phone as "[name] gonna flake".

2nd girl
Message her with something witty based on her profile. Ask her to coffee, she says yes. My logistics were a little sloppy and when it came time to confirm a time, ghost.

3rd girl
Same as the 2nd.

I realize that my logistics and game could be a little smoother to prevent flaking in the future but i'm not sweating. Just making mental notes on what to do better next time. I'm a little out of practice