Quote: (03-31-2012 03:45 PM)Lumiere Wrote:
Quote: (03-04-2012 11:38 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Is Beta the new Alpha?™
This is how and why the whole beta / alpha debate is pointless.
A lot of guys think if you are getting laid and getting hot chicks = alpha
Women have two imperatives. The need for a dominant man and the need for a provider (which is the root cause of hypergamy).
If you get laid because you meet the 2nd one you are very likely beta.
If she fucks you just because you are a fuckable guy and you aint throwing coin at her then you are likely alpha
If a dude thinks that he is a fuckable dominant guy but is throwing coin around too then the question you need to ask is what would happen if he stopped?
Girls leave? beta. Girls stay and bang him anyway? alpha
So what happens when the girl who was with you "just because you are a fuckable guy" leaves you for a dude with cash? Does that mean that you got out alpha'd by a beta?
While I understand the point you are trying to make, I think that a lot of dudes use this argument as an excuse for being broke. They then try to assert that any guy who flashes money around is being beta. In your post, it seems that you are claiming that if you couldn't get the girl without having money then that means you are beta.
The problem with that logic is that, using your definition, it essentially means that a HUGE swath of the premium women out there will only go out with "betas", since they would not date a broke dude.
The fact is that having financial means is EXTREMELY attractive to women, particularly when those means are significantly higher than that of the average male. It is one of the clearest symbols of power/status we have in our society. I equate money with looks. You can be filthy rich and be beta, and you can be really good looking and be beta. However the guy with money AND game, or the guy with looks AND game,
absolutely monkey stomps the broke/average looking guy with game.
The key distinction between Alpha and Beta isn't whether you are flashing cash or just being cocky/funny. It is about CHOICE. Remember that the Alpha male in the pack has his CHOICE of females, while the beta males fight over what is left.
So how does this apply to money? Lets take a Beta millionaire and an Alpha millionaire. The beta millionaire approaches a woman with the mentality of supplication and approval seeking. He thinks "If I show this girl how much money I have and how much stuff I will give her, maybe she will like me." In effect, he offers up his resources to the woman FOR HER TO CHOSE whether she will accept them in exchange for her pussy.
The Alpha millionaire, on the other hand,
KNOWS THAT HE HAS MANY OPTIONS. He doesn't supplicate to a woman. He has a great lifestyle and HE CHOOSES which women he allows to experience that lifestyle with him. If a particular woman isn't interested he doesn't care because
THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE OF WOMEN FOR HIM TO CHOSE FROM.
From a woman's perspective this results in completely different behavior when dealing with the alpha and beta millionaires. In the case of the beta millionaire, the woman demands more and more things from him, because he has demonstrated that
HE VALUES HER OVER HIS WEALTH. In the case of the alpha millionaire, the woman is in a constant competition to keep his attention because
HIS WEALTH MAKES HER EASILY REPLACEABLE BY ANOTHER YOUNGER/BETTER LOOKING FEMALE. She is a queen to the beta millionaire but merely a commodity to the alpha millionaire.