This rant between Neil and Greek Kamaki is getting epic!
I'm just laughing here!
Carry on while I go grab my popcorn.
Quote: (03-05-2012 12:10 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
Also you see Mixx has put an action where he rents an apartment for low price under the condition he fucks the girl who stays inand everyone congratulates him.
Quote: (03-06-2012 06:42 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:
This rant between Neil and Greek Kamaki is getting epic!
I'm just laughing here!
Carry on while I go grab my popcorn.
Quote: (03-06-2012 09:30 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:
Quote: (03-06-2012 06:42 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:
This rant between Neil and Greek Kamaki is getting epic!
I'm just laughing here!
Carry on while I go grab my popcorn.
I want to withdraw from it every day but every time i cant resist to make a comment when i read something he wrote. It surprises me a bit that people her don't back me up a bit more since its such unbelievable and doubt-able stuff he writes.
I mean come on, he's giving straight up P4P advice and won't admit it. Either people here want to know about it or are scared to stand up for something i consider real gaming.
Edit, check out his thoughts on penises and Polish girls his post above
Quote: (03-06-2012 07:03 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
With polish girls there are basically three possibilities:future groom,sponsor or lover.If you are considered future groom the girl will treat you like royalty.She will cook for you,clean your house,wash your clothes and succumb to every sexual desire yopu have.However if you do not get seriously commited with her in 6 months after starting sex she will abandon you.This is what they do.Because if they find another future groom soon enough they are more likely to settle.If they lose maximum 6 months with everyone they can meet 3-4 grooms a year and so in 3 years they are very likely to get married.I present you their mindset.
Quote: (02-28-2012 07:20 AM)The Duke Wrote:
I personally prefer Ukrainian girls (east-side, Russian) over Polish in terms of appearance. All things considered, the girls are hotter here. They are also easier (for me).
Polish girls are a little bit friendlier and Poland is more comfortable to live in.
Quote: (02-28-2012 05:02 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:
You just made a fool of yourself again by saying this :
For example one might denied visa for ''spreading STDs.''
BTW -- My coworker in India needed to get an HIV test in order to get his work visa (he was Russian). As an American I did not need this test. I guess the Indian government assumes Russians coming to India are prostitutes.
Quote: (03-06-2012 10:41 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Define "real gaming" Neil
Not everyone is a budget traveller bud, and the belief that "real gamers" do it on the cheap only(or you are somehow cheating if they have luxuries like air con and fresh daily sheets) is getting a bit much too.
Kamaki has brought an interesting perspective to the forum and people need to show a bit of patience here. Now that we understand where he is coming from, his contributions have been given proper context. Welcome to the world of the Mediterranean and Turkish playboy. This is how many of them do things and how they have been doing it for years. They make no apologies for it either because they have not been culturally shamed into believing there is anything wrong with it. Its a different method and approach, rarely discussed or understood here because its not typical of how we do things. You dont have to practice it or even agree with it. Where they come from though, this is pick up.
Stop being so judgemental, learn what you can from it and move on. I have posted about the Italian and Turkish hordes on these forums, and they were the waves prior to the Brits on budget airlines. I have said before that darker skinned guys (latinos) need to differentiate themselves from that group because of their well earned reputations and they will initially be mistaken for them in some cases. Kamaki is giving us insight into how they operate. From reports on these forums, they are starting to become a common sight in South America now too.
Also, cultural views on sex differ around the world. As someone who has travelled as much as you have, surely you have realised that game is in itself a highly abstract concept by now?
Quote: (03-06-2012 10:03 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
Quote: (03-06-2012 09:30 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:
Quote: (03-06-2012 06:42 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:
This rant between Neil and Greek Kamaki is getting epic!
I'm just laughing here!
Carry on while I go grab my popcorn.
I want to withdraw from it every day but every time i cant resist to make a comment when i read something he wrote. It surprises me a bit that people her don't back me up a bit more since its such unbelievable and doubt-able stuff he writes.
I mean come on, he's giving straight up P4P advice and won't admit it. Either people here want to know about it or are scared to stand up for something i consider real gaming.
Edit, check out his thoughts on penises and Polish girls his post above
It is his bad english, so lets just be amused and have a laugh. But there is some wisdom in what he says too, or else he would have been banned long ago. Like the Beatles wrote... LET IT BE.
Quote: (03-06-2012 10:41 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Kamaki has brought an interesting perspective to the forum and people need to show a bit of patience here. Now that we understand where he is coming from, his contributions have been given proper context. Welcome to the world of the Mediterranean and Turkish playboy. This is how many of them do things and how they have been doing it for years. They make no apologies for it either because they have not been culturally shamed into believing there is anything wrong with it. Its a different method and approach, rarely discussed or understood here because its not typical of how we do things. You dont have to practice it or even agree with it. Where they come from though, this is pick up.
Quote: (03-06-2012 10:41 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Welcome to the world of the Mediterranean and Turkish playboy. This is how many of them do things and how they have been doing it for years. They make no apologies for it either because they have not been culturally shamed into believing there is anything wrong with it. Its a different method and approach, rarely discussed or understood here because its not typical of how we do things.
Quote: (03-07-2012 04:48 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
Contrary to polish girls czech women are not interested at all in future grooms.The reason is they are not interested in marriage per se.Most marriages in CR end in divorce anyway(50%) so it is not a big deal.(contary to that only 10% of marriages in Poland end in divorce due to accompanying stigma).
Czech women search for boyfriends(pritele) or lovers(milenci).Few are interested in sponsoring mostly in small cities because the majority has jobs(unemployment rate 4%) and the living standards are relatively high.So a czech girl has usually a steady boyfriend and some occasional lovers.A common situation is that she stays with her boyfriend in CR and travels in the summer on vaccation to meet her foreign lover spend one week with him and come back to her boyrfriend.Czech guys do not lift a bat about this situation because it is considered normal and they cheat as well.
Quote: (03-07-2012 01:37 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:
The difference here is fishing in the river vs fishing in the farm pond. Both are technically fishing, and both are popular. However the discussion related to one doesn't relate to the other one.
If you're discussing game, you end up with theories, discussions, thoughts, books. There is some skill and practice involved, there are specific challenges, opportunities and feedback which is unique.
If you're discussing P4P you'll end up with a list of places and prices. Any moron can do it, there is no skill involved. Sure there are specific challenges as well (like "who can fuck the most hookers for $500") but they're not relevant to the game
Quote: (03-07-2012 04:58 AM)DrainTree Wrote:
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So you would say Polish girls make better wives?
Ukrainian/Belarussian girls are prettier in my experience...but not so certain on personaow do the Italians play "future groom"? I met this one Italian dude in Poland and he gets tons of interest from the ladies. Girls love the Italian accent and have a romantic view of Italians. He also married a Polish girl and has a kid...but I think he cheats on her (mainly with men)
What about this future groom "game"? How quickly do they bring up the topic of marriage? I think they don't buy lots of gifts because if the woman sees him as a potential husband she will try to save
Quote: (03-07-2012 05:14 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
Quote: (03-07-2012 04:58 AM)DrainTree Wrote:
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So you would say Polish girls make better wives?
Ukrainian/Belarussian girls are prettier in my experience...but not so certain on personaow do the Italians play "future groom"? I met this one Italian dude in Poland and he gets tons of interest from the ladies. Girls love the Italian accent and have a romantic view of Italians. He also married a Polish girl and has a kid...but I think he cheats on her (mainly with men)
What about this future groom "game"? How quickly do they bring up the topic of marriage? I think they don't buy lots of gifts because if the woman sees him as a potential husband she will try to save
They bring up the topic of marriage very quickly I would say in 2 months after sex starts.They bring it up as a joke initially but with time they will be quite pressing or if they do not see any serious movement towards marriage they will break up cold.You will not see her again for a while but if you wait she may come back to you.This is about polish women.
Ukrainian women usually keep an army of future grooms besides them if they are interested in marriage so this is not a problem for them if they are pretty and have no character problems they will marry before they get 22 years old especially in province.This is one of the reasons that your audience in provincial cities are mostly girls under 22 years old or ones older but with character or personality problems or failed marriages(man alcoholic etc).
Quote: (03-07-2012 01:59 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Its pick up to them though because the lines are blurred. Whats considered prostitution in the US would not be considered as such in EE.
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Kamaki comes from a place where the people view gender roles and casual sex differently. They view P4P differently too, and its far more normalised to the point where its not seen as payment, rather just how things work. The belief that any lays landed need to adhere to western standards and social conventions or be classified as irrelevant seems pretty arrogant to me.
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They are not paying directly for sex, they sponsor.