[Pilgrim37]

(02-16-2012 08:37 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

No offense chocolate girl, but when a beautiful girl walks straight up to me and started direct gaming me i would assume its a prostitute. The guy probably got scared or didn't know how to react to a situation like this. You should have tried one more time.

I have been 7 weeks in Brazil and had quite a few Brazilian girls and only one approached me directly which ended in a SNL within the hour. She had a beautiful face and was mixed Brazil/Lebanon but was packing some extra pounds.

- I am too player for you. (In port: Eu sou vida loca demais pra você)

I just put the Portuguese version on my facebook wall, lets see what happens haha.

How many B girls did you get it together with Skywalker?
Were you impressed with the looks of B girls or you preferred other South America countries?

[Mo1337]

Hi,
First of all, I find it refreshing that a girl is trying to get the man that she wants, if women always fight for equality they too should be active in their pursuit of men. that's why I think that women should not "just be hot" in order to get the man's attention: a bit of effort never hurt. Secondly, it's good that you inquired about his possible relationship, it goes straight to the point. If he has game and is intelligent he will respond honestly (if there is interest); it shouldn't startle him if he's quick on his feet. In this case, it didn't work out: try again with another person. Women doing direct approaches might be the anti-thesis of game as we know it.

[Greek kamaki]

Women usually suck with approaching guys.They either overdo with indicators of interest,they intervene in the most unproper moments or they completely downplay interest thinking that the guy will get their subltlieties the same way as their girfriends.Truth is no man gets in any mode to get subtltieties unless he is already interested in this.So women usually totally fail at approaching guys the same way they fail at approaching women when they are interested in women.

Generally guys are superior to women in calibration,tactfullness,logistics and a whole lot of things.When we are smart our brains work in rocket mode and women usually succumb.A woman to think as fast is impossible.Women cannot guess how many things we take into consideration in a second while judging the general environment.Like hunt,football etc men are better geared for this.Even our superior long vision helps to recognize the hunt from away without it being aware by any signals.

So women are in a very inferior position to men when they decide to approach.The weapon of women is that men have 10 times bigger sexual desire for women than women have for men and this is due to mens tenfold levels of testosterone in comparison to women.Testosterone is the main hormone responsible for the libido so a normal man is at a state of increased horniness compared to an equivalent woman.

So a woman should better wait for the man to approach her.If she approaches him first she immediately loses value.Women are aware of that.He may think that she plays with him.He may even become scared.Because it is unnatural that the less horny woman approaches the more horny man.The reasonable would be the opposite.Unless the woman is horny of sth different which by the common belief of men that women respond more to audial stimulation than to optic stimulus cannot be his biceps or cute face.So the man will think the woman who approaches him has an agenda and plays some kind of game.

If we put it in a local perspective if a woman approaches you in UK,Scandinavia is likely a cougar or ugly one.If she does it in slavic country she is likely a hooker(there are some exceptions).If she does it in Mediteranean country it is more real because sometimes women in south Europe want to surpass traditional boundaries keeping men in circles unable to approach in order not to lose face.

But if a woman decides to approach a guy and she wants to do that effectively she should not play any games,give obscure hints,do contraindicatory movements,suprises etc.She should also not rely much on verbal communication.If she wants one night stand she should get physical immediately by looking at him,grabbing his head and kiss him so he becomes immediately aroused and if she wants a date she should just give him a camera to take some pictures of her and her friends for example and then talk a bit with him and give him her number.

[Caligula]

Excellent post Kamaki.

A woman loses value from a bold approach - a man gains value.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

Women who approach are whores. And you depend on them to make your game easier.
Women who have sex in the first date are whores. And you depend on them to get your SNL.

Therefore, you depend on whores to make your life as a player somehow... The "princesses" you are imagining would never do that, and you will never get them because you are not that patient.

You know, I am sick of waiting to be approached and I want to choose who I will talk to, instead of listening men that I don't want to
And yes, I am trying to get what I want instead to pray and swallow insecurities about my looks, behavior and the like.
No, it is not about equality over men, bla bla bla... This is why direct game does not work. Because of men who think of "devaluation".

[Samseau]

(02-17-2012 08:19 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Women who approach are whores. And you depend on them to make your game easier.
Women who have sex in the first date are whores. And you depend on them to get your SNL.

Therefore, you depend on whores to make your life as a player somehow... The "princesses" you are imagining would never do that, and you will never get them because you are not that patient.

You know, I am sick of waiting to be approached and I want to choose who I will talk to, instead of listening men that I don't want to
And yes, I am trying to get what I want instead to pray and swallow insecurities about my looks, behavior and the like.
No, it is not about equality over men, bla bla bla... This is why direct game does not work. Because of men who think of "devaluation".

Nah, don't listen to the guys here Chocolate. They don't know wtf they are talking about.

You're not a whore for approaching men. You're not a slut for sleeping with a man you like on the first date.



WAAAAAAY too many guys believe there are "good girls" who don't put out quickly. This is false. All women are the same, and all women want to fuck a guy they like ASAP. If you don't know this, you've never run tight game on a girl before.



Mrs. Chocolate -

You gotta understand, not all men will be attracted to you. The guys you approach probably are a little out of your league, so don't be discouraged if you get rejected.

Now you know how it feels to be a man. Keep persisting with men and I'm sure you'll score an alpha male.

[speakeasy]

(02-17-2012 08:19 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Women who approach are whores. And you depend on them to make your game easier.
Women who have sex in the first date are whores. And you depend on them to get your SNL.

Therefore, you depend on whores to make your life as a player somehow... The "princesses" you are imagining would never do that, and you will never get them because you are not that patient.

You know, I am sick of waiting to be approached and I want to choose who I will talk to, instead of listening men that I don't want to
And yes, I am trying to get what I want instead to pray and swallow insecurities about my looks, behavior and the like.
No, it is not about equality over men, bla bla bla... This is why direct game does not work. Because of men who think of "devaluation".

All you have to do is ask a guy to dance. How would that make you look like a slut? If he decides to keep talking to you after the dance, he's interested. If he doesn't he's not.

And also like samseau says, quit going only for pretty boys. Sometimes we get the impression that looks is your number one criteria. Maybe that isn't completely true, but that's how you come across generally.

[ccurtis189]

(02-17-2012 12:37 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

And also like samseau says, quit going only for pretty boys. Sometimes we get the impression that looks is your number one criteria. Maybe that isn't completely true, but that's how you come across generally.

I don't know, I get the impression that she keeps going for more than she can handle.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

Seems reazonable when men approach beatiful girls, but when a girl does it, she is out of league. Next time I post something about mem, I wont describe him.

[FretDancer]

(02-17-2012 08:19 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Women who approach are whores. And you depend on them to make your game easier.
Women who have sex in the first date are whores. And you depend on them to get your SNL.

Therefore, you depend on whores to make your life as a player somehow... The "princesses" you are imagining would never do that, and you will never get them because you are not that patient.

You know, I am sick of waiting to be approached and I want to choose who I will talk to, instead of listening men that I don't want to
And yes, I am trying to get what I want instead to pray and swallow insecurities about my looks, behavior and the like.
No, it is not about equality over men, bla bla bla... This is why direct game does not work. Because of men who think of "devaluation".

If more women could see things in a similar perspective like that one, everyone would be happier.

But then again, direct game is so uncommon that theres a high chance a man would mis-interpret it. So why not go indirect ? So easier, nothing to lose. And if it fails, you will have your answer as to wether he's interested/worth keep talking to.

[Amour Fou]

I think confidence is attractive to both sexes.

And yes, you can be both confident and elegant! That works even better for a girl.

----

Esse tópico ganhou um grande burburinho, hein Mrs. Chocolate?

You should report back your attempts at direct game at carnival, a great time for it.

(It is carnival right now in Brazil, just so you guys know)

[Caligula]

(02-17-2012 06:41 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Seems reazonable when men approach beatiful girls, but when a girl does it, she is out of league. Next time I post something about mem, I wont describe him.

The harsh realities of the sexual market. No one said it was fair.

Best of luck though.

[Samseau]

(02-17-2012 06:41 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Seems reazonable when men approach beatiful girls, but when a girl does it, she is out of league. Next time I post something about mem, I wont describe him.

That's because a man's value is dependent on his game, so technically he can approach girls out of his normal league.

Conversely, a woman can't do half as much with game. It sucks for you, but I'm telling you if you stay persistent you can still land a hot guy. Don't give up just because it's tough.

[Mr.GM]

(02-15-2012 12:33 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I find it implausible that Mrs Chocolate cannot get men in Brazil. Unless, she lives in an area where they don't prefer chocolate.
If she grew up in my area in London or even if she lived in Toronto, brothers would be hollaring like wolves.

However, if she seeks my vanilla cousins, she may need game, yes.

Chocolate , I bet that if you use the Apocalipse Opener , you will have a 100% hit ratio.

btw, are you staying in SP for the carnaval?

[ccurtis189]

(02-17-2012 06:41 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Seems reazonable when men approach beatiful girls, but when a girl does it, she is out of league. Next time I post something about mem, I wont describe him.

It comes with the territory. Besides, women date up far more often than men do.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

(02-17-2012 06:55 PM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

I think confidence is attractive to both sexes.

And yes, you can be both confident and elegant! That works even better for a girl.

----

Esse tópico ganhou um grande burburinho, hein Mrs. Chocolate?

You should report back your attempts at direct game at carnival, a great time for it.

(It is carnival right now in Brazil, just so you guys know)

Você viu? E viu quanta bobagem eu tenho de ouvir? Pois é!

I'm staying in SP during carnival, but I'm ahead to Benedito Calixto with friends (there will be some street carnival), tomorrow I will go to Guararema to João Bosco & Vinícius show and let's see how it goes!
Indirect game is though because I would say 70% of men don't know when a girl is into until she says it. You may disagree, but you are far more "trainned" than average. I will try it again (the direct and indirect game) and I will giving more reports.

BTW Samseau, in your opinion, what are men out of my league?

[Samseau]

(02-18-2012 09:10 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

BTW Samseau, in your opinion, what are men out of my league?

Any man who regularly bangs women hotter than you.

And if a man isn't responding well to your direct game, it's most likely because he's used to banging hotter girls.


But seriously, don't get discouraged. Most women don't approach men, so by doing the approaching you'll increase the odds in your favor.

Keep approaching men, and you'll probably snag an alpha who thinks you look really hot. Men have very varied tastes, although not quite as much as women do, but enough for you to get a hot alpha if you try hard enough.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

Nah, here it seems they want the same thing: blond, barbie looks, smart enough to laugh when a joke is told.
There is not much diversity in my social circle.
Anyway, I will keep persuing what I like and want and see what happens. Out of my league can be a turn off for me and my self steem, because I may start to think I am not good enough for no one.

[Tigre]

(02-20-2012 07:59 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Nah, here it seems they want the same thing: blond, barbie looks, smart enough to laugh when a joke is told.
There is not much diversity in my social circle.
Anyway, I will keep persuing what I like and want and see what happens. Out of my league can be a turn off for me and my self steem, because I may start to think I am not good enough for no one.

OK, but if ever we see you planning to adopt a couple of cats, we are going to have to schedule an intervention.

Um gatão is fine, though.

[tomtud]

Mrs chocolate just go for what you want. Just like a job that you desire, present yourself in the best way that you can and if he bites great if not,,,,, NEXT !!!!!!!

At least you are not sitting around waiting and hopefully somebody worthwhile comes around. It's like waiting for the lottery.

I wish women had balls metaphorically speaking to approach or make their IOIs more known.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

NO cats! I will never own a cat. I am allergic to them.
But, I like dogs. My dad does not allow them. I would like to own a Boxer. Anyway... Hijacking the post.

Um gatão... LOL... This is out of my league, according to Samseau.

[theIVth]

(02-20-2012 07:59 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Nah, here it seems they want the same thing: blond, barbie looks, smart enough to laugh when a joke is told.
There is not much diversity in my social circle.
Anyway, I will keep persuing what I like and want and see what happens. Out of my league can be a turn off for me and my self steem, because I may start to think I am not good enough for no one.

Men are supposed to be dating women that are prettier than he is handsome. So if you are approaching and/or waiting to be hit on by a bunch of pretty boys, you might be waiting for a long time if you are not a really drop dead gorgeous lady.

Im certainly not trying to say that you cant get a guy that you think is nice looking, but from what Ive noticed over the years, women that make it seem as though they cant find or meet a guy, usually are women that are waiting on guys that are probably out of their league.

Cause I want to say that Ive seen you before at some point from a pic you posted a while back, and you were a fairly attractive lady. I cant see you just not ever getting approached, cause most women get approached or hit on, no matter how they look. You probably just diss a lot of guys that really are on your level that you feel arent, more than likely cause your probably waiting on guys that are out of your league.

I could be wrong tho.

[Samseau]

(02-20-2012 12:40 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Um gatão... LOL... This is out of my league, according to Samseau.

Quit the passive-aggressive bullshit, please. I'm not singling you out for approaching men out of your league, all women do it. It's part of a woman's nature to do so.

Half the women I've banged were a little below me in terms of looks, but I liked them enough to bang them.

Anyhow, the ideal man is one who is a bit out of your league but doesn't think he is. You'll strike gold if you're persistent.

[Kona]

(02-17-2012 06:41 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Seems reazonable when men approach beatiful girls, but when a girl does it, she is out of league. Next time I post something about mem, I wont describe him.

I just read the thread.

Here's a thought Mrs. Chocolate: Maybe you were out of that guy's league?

Then you go up to him and start giving him the business. He got scared and acted like he did. He's thinking "why's this gorgeous, chocolatey little tart coming up to me when I'm such a fool" and it freaked him out.

He didn't have the balls to deal with your sexiness. Plain and simple.

Aloha!

[Samseau]

(02-20-2012 04:20 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 06:41 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Seems reazonable when men approach beatiful girls, but when a girl does it, she is out of league. Next time I post something about mem, I wont describe him.

I just read the thread.

Here's a thought Mrs. Chocolate: Maybe you were out of that guy's league?

Then you go up to him and start giving him the business. He got scared and acted like he did. He's thinking "why's this gorgeous, chocolatey little tart coming up to me when I'm such a fool" and it freaked him out.

He didn't have the balls to deal with your sexiness. Plain and simple.

Aloha!

Oh, so now Mrs. Chocolate is approaching unattractive men?