[TheSlayer]

(09-15-2013 11:45 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

I hated the way the nazis treated Walt, backstabbers. I found it interesting how Walt gave Jesse up and in return Flynn gave Walt up easily too.

Walt will die from cancer, Lydia will die, the nazis will die, the remaining will be the white family broken up and alone. Sort of like a Greek tragedy. Todd seems to be the heir to the empire.

Yeah, I can see this happening. This episode was crazy though, going 100 miles/hr every single minute.

I don't know if Walt will die but I do know that he will be alone forever until he dies. No way Todd lives, if the Nazis die, Todd dies too. I think Jesse will be the one to kill Todd. He has to.

Today's episode was also very telling of Walt's character. Despite all the killings, all the shit he's been a part of, he still cares about family. First offering $80 million to save Hank and then helping Skyler with that phone call, he truly cares about family.

So the ricin can be possibly only for either himself (quick and painless death), Jesse (you know he blames him for Hank's death), or Lydia (kill the meth empire completely or she will try to go after his family)?

[Tenerife]

Alright. latest episode.

Anyone reading this thread must know that posts contain spoilers.


So Hank gets killed. The part that pisses me off is the son calls the cop like a bitch, and skylar pulls a knife. I actually thought skylar was okay before, but that knife incident, before she even knew the details of hanks death, was really ridiculous. The only person in this show with loyalty is Walt. He's the only person I care about now. They made me hate all the other characters. Hank immediately disowns Walt once he knows, and turns against his own family with no attempt at reconciliation. Pinkman was ready to suck on Gus' and Mike's cock when they gave him a few compliments, but he totally disowns Walt after he makes a kid sick for a few days.

This show could definitely have been better, but still its addictive and I like watching it.

Walt telling the nazis about the money was also really fucking stupid. I don't get why the nazis didn't just make Walt cook. And they could have robbed him before too. But whatevs.

Marie's face when she finds out about hank....priceless. This needs to be made into a stock animated rvf gif.

[OGNorCal707]

Yeah Walt telling the Nazis about the money and thinking he could reason and bargain with them was retarded as shit, plus Walt is so deep in the game he should have known that Hank was an "occupational hazard" and been prepared for him to get whacked.

I hated how Walt's son "Flynn" called the cops on Walt, that was a pussy ass bitch move. All in all this season has been good, but not my favorite, though this most recent episode had me on the edge of my seat. Can't wait to see how things work out over the next two final episodes.

Oh yeah anyone read about how AMC is planning a spinoff with Saul Goodman, called "Better Call Saul"?

[J DOE]

Walt's son seriously came off like a pussy in this episode. He didn't even try to understand Walt's choices even before he found out Hank died. Skyler is an ungrateful bitch to the very end. I would definitely prefer a smoking hot vapid little gold digger whose eyes light up at the sight of new bags and clothes and who gives me sexual favors on demand than a 'strong woman' like Skyler. She really shows off how wives in general tend to give very little consideration to how much their husbands exert themselves to keep them in a positive emotional state.

I agree with what Fisto said about Jesse. He has been a major liability for Walt since season 2 and just got worse with time. Walt should have NEVER killed those 2 cartel members when they were about to kill Jesse, he should have just let him die.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

This thread has inspired me to start watching Breaking Bad. Will report back after I've watched at least the first 3 episodes of Season 1.

[Tuthmosis]

(09-16-2013 12:28 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I hated how Walt's son "Flynn" called the cops on Walt, that was a pussy ass bitch move. All in all this season has been good, but not my favorite, though this most recent episode had me on the edge of my seat. Can't wait to see how things work out over the next two final episodes.

Yup, especially since that disloyal, ungrateful bitch came at him first. It was a classic white-knight moment: you can attack the man with deadly force, but he can't even disarm his female assailant.

[Tuthmosis]

Editorial Note: I've added a spoiler-alert notice to the title of the thread to avoid tarnishing the series for guys who are running behind or haven't started it.

Even though it might seem obvious to some of us that a thread like this might contain details (otherwise we'd be just talking in obscure generalities), it might not be as clear to guys who aren't yet familiar with the show's cliff-hanger model.

I actually avoid this thread after Sunday night, until I get to see the latest episode. I don't even bring up the show with people, if I'm not caught up, so they don't mention some dumb shit. I actually had some guy troll me when I was like two seasons in with some statement like, "Oh, so you haven't seen the episode when Jesse kills Skylar yet?" Fucking asshole. It took a whole season for me to realize he was just fucking with me.

[Teedub]

(09-16-2013 09:04 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

It was a classic white-knight moment: you can attack the man with deadly force, but he can't even disarm his female assailant.

It's interesting, as before I found the manosphere those sort of moments would have gone unchallenged, and just subconsciously accepted.

As for Walt, he is a monster, despite his best efforts, but like Tony Soprano, the show's writing makes you root for him despite his 'shortfalls' as a person. Fantastic television.

[TheSlayer]

(09-16-2013 12:59 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 09:04 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

It was a classic white-knight moment: you can attack the man with deadly force, but he can't even disarm his female assailant.

It's interesting, as before I found the manosphere those sort of moments would have gone unchallenged, and just subconsciously accepted.

As for Walt, he is a monster, despite his best efforts, but like Tony Soprano, the show's writing makes you root for him despite his 'shortfalls' as a person. Fantastic television.

Agreed. If you go on the IMDB boards for Breaking Bad they are full of white knights/betas/manginas crying how some people still root for Walt despite him being a monster. They don't understand. That's the point of good TV, it makes you root for guys like Walt, Tony, Avon, and Stringer etc.

I must say, at some level I did understand Walt Jr. turning against his father as fast as he did. If you remember from the first couple of seasons, he sees Hank as more of a father figure than Walt and it is obvious that Hank and him have a father-figure type relationship. Realizing that Hank is obviously dead somewhere must have really messed with his head. I did hate though how Marie forced Skyler to tell Junior all about his father right then and there. On top of that, Skyler should have at least confirmed what Marie was saying before giving up so easily.

The next two episodes will be nerve-wracking, that's for sure.

[Teedub]

^ I agree with all of that.

As a side note, I find Marie the most unlikeable person (of the central characters) in the show. Apart from the more tangible things, I think it's just that I find her face annoying!

[Vicious]

(09-16-2013 12:28 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I hated how Walt's son "Flynn" called the cops on Walt, that was a pussy ass bitch move.

Seriously how could Walt jr not have reacted any other way? His dad is a drug kingpin and has just offed his uncle.

[TheSlayer]

(09-16-2013 01:32 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

^ I agree with all of that.

As a side note, I find Marie the most unlikeable person (of the central characters) in the show. Apart from the more tangible things, I think it's just that I find her face annoying!

Yeah, Marie is extremely annoying.

I don't know if I am the only one but I think that after last night's episode, Breaking Bad is moving ahead of The Sopranos for all-time honors. As long as they don't finish the show with a fade to nothing, Breaking Bad will go down as better than the Sopranos.

I know there were several clues as to what the ending meant but I seriously hate that ending. You have an audience that's been with you for 6 seasons and that's how you finish the show. Either show him dead, or just leave it as it is with the threat of indictment hanging over him (one of his Capos had ratted on him in the last episode). That cut to black was absolutely disgusting and I think an attempt to rile up the audience.

[Vicious]

(09-16-2013 01:43 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

I know there were several clues as to what the ending meant but I seriously hate that ending. You have an audience that's been with you for 6 seasons and that's how you finish the show. Either show him dead, or just leave it as it is with the threat of indictment hanging over him (one of his Capos had ratted on him in the last episode). That cut to black was absolutely disgusting and I think an attempt to rile up the audience.

******Spoilers*********




Read this: http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/th...f-the-end/

Which makes it absolutely clear that Tony was wacked.

[renotime]

Todd is the scariest motherfucker I have ever seen on TV. The dude is a straight up sociopath.

And Hank went out like a boss.

[TheSlayer]

(09-16-2013 01:47 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 01:43 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

I know there were several clues as to what the ending meant but I seriously hate that ending. You have an audience that's been with you for 6 seasons and that's how you finish the show. Either show him dead, or just leave it as it is with the threat of indictment hanging over him (one of his Capos had ratted on him in the last episode). That cut to black was absolutely disgusting and I think an attempt to rile up the audience.

******Spoilers*********




Read this: http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/th...f-the-end/

Which makes it absolutely clear that Tony was wacked.

Oh, I have spent hours reading blogs and articles which presented the evidence that Tony was dead and also the very small majority arguing that it was open to interpretation. David Chase probably did mean that cut to black as a sign of Tony's death but I still hate it. Show him dead, don't just cut to nothing. They didn't kill other characters like this, then why Tony?

I am probably being irrational but for me Tony lives. If David Chase is just gonna cut to nothing, well then I am going to make my own ending and believe what I wanna believe lol.

It's not a 2 hour movie where the audience can just go home saying, "well he probably died". The show lasted almost 7-8 years and ending it this way was pathetic, IMO.

[Vicious]

(09-16-2013 01:52 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

I am probably being irrational but for me Tony lives. If David Chase is just gonna cut to nothing, well then I am going to make my own ending and believe what I wanna believe lol.

Which is probably exactly what David Chase wanted.

[Cattle Rustler]

(09-16-2013 01:50 PM)renotime Wrote:  

Todd is the scariest motherfucker I have ever seen on TV. The dude is a straight up sociopath.

And Hank went out like a boss.

Darn right, he acts calm and nice. But the guy goes straight to business. He reminds me of Walt in the beginning.

Todd even cried when hank was killed.

[Teedub]

(09-16-2013 01:47 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

******Spoilers*********




Read this: http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/th...f-the-end/

Which makes it absolutely clear that Tony was wacked.

I read that a few years ago and it confirmed to me my conclusion that Tony was shot dead the minute it went to black. It just represents the cycle that the mob carries on. Somebody takes your place and the cycle continues.

Personally, I thought it was a brave and brilliant decision on David Chase's behalf. It was ambiguous, however left enough clues for hardcore fans to decipher the outcome.

[Teedub]

(09-16-2013 01:43 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

I don't know if I am the only one but I think that after last night's episode, Breaking Bad is moving ahead of The Sopranos for all-time honors. As long as they don't finish the show with a fade to nothing, Breaking Bad will go down as better than the Sopranos.

We're going to disagree about that ending, as evidenced by my post above, but BB is up there. That said, I really liked Lost, I mean REALLY liked it, but didn't like the ending. I watched the first four seasons in two weeks and never have I been so tempted to go on google to look at leaked spoilers etc than for that show. I'm a sci-fi nut, and I was hugely disappointed they decided to divert to a spiritual route after all the cool time travel stuff etc they had previously. Apologies if you've never seen it!

[TheSlayer]

(09-16-2013 02:26 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 01:43 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

I don't know if I am the only one but I think that after last night's episode, Breaking Bad is moving ahead of The Sopranos for all-time honors. As long as they don't finish the show with a fade to nothing, Breaking Bad will go down as better than the Sopranos.

We're going to disagree about that ending, as evidenced by my post above, but BB is up there. That said, I really liked Lost, I mean REALLY liked it, but didn't like the ending. I watched the first four seasons in two weeks and never have I been so tempted to go on google to look at leaked spoilers etc than for that show. I'm a sci-fi nut, and I was hugely disappointed they decided to divert to a spiritual route after all the cool time travel stuff etc they had previously. Apologies if you've never seen it!

Naw, no worries. I haven't seen Lost but I doubt I am ever going to see it. I have heard the criticisms of Lost about declining quality and the bad last season.

With regards to The Sopranos ending, if you like it then that's cool but I still think ending it like that was just an attempt to be controversial. I think the mob is a cycle theme was established throughout the show anyway. As I said if you want him to show him dead then show it. I just feel that after 6 long seasons, don't leave an ambiguous ending with some clues here and there.

Anyway, for me Tony lives. I refuse to believe all the evidence and the clues.

Yeah, Breaking Bad is right up there now and I think the last two episodes will be good enough to put it over Sopranos.

Besides the ending, I thought season 6 for Sopranos was a little off. I think the quality dropped just a tad bit. Either way, Sopranos and Breaking Bad are both top 5 shows of all-time and if we agree on that, then individual ranking doesn't matter that much because then you are just splitting hairs.

[renotime]

(09-16-2013 02:01 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 01:50 PM)renotime Wrote:  

Todd is the scariest motherfucker I have ever seen on TV. The dude is a straight up sociopath.

And Hank went out like a boss.

Darn right, he acts calm and nice. But the guy goes straight to business. He reminds me of Walt in the beginning.

Todd even cried when hank was killed.

I don't remember Todd crying at all.

[MHaes]

Jesse being a little cook slave after being imprisoned and tortured by the Nazis was fucking raw. That scene with his face all cut up, wearing an expression of just resignment, leashed up like a dog, and then he limps over to the counter and sees that Todd hung up a picture of the latina chick and her kid. Then Todd nonchalantly says "So let's get cooking."

Todd is a fucking psycopath for sure. Best nickname I have heard for him so far is "Meth Damon", looks just like him!

[Duke Castile]

I can't stand Skyler.

And I can't stand Flynn now either.

It's insane that he can sit there and see his mom pull a knife on Walter, see his dad disarm her, and then call the police saying he put a knife to her.

I hate that his money is gone but 11 million is nothing to sneeze at.

[Galnuc69]

(09-16-2013 11:12 PM)MHaes Wrote:  

Jesse being a little cook slave after being imprisoned and tortured by the Nazis was fucking raw. That scene with his face all cut up, wearing an expression of just resignment, leashed up like a dog, and then he limps over to the counter and sees that Todd hung up a picture of the latina chick and her kid. Then Todd nonchalantly says "So let's get cooking."

Todd is a fucking psycopath for sure. Best nickname I have heard for him so far is "Meth Damon", looks just like him!

Jesse got off easy considering the bullshit he pulled. He should be happy he still has his pathetic miserable life. Now he can think about the consequences of his actions of being a rat for whatever of a life he has left. Walter should have let him be killed seasons ago, as Gus and Mike told Walter on many occasions, drug addicts cannot be trusted. People all over the net are saying Walter was ruthless in letting the Aryan Brotherhood take Jesse. I would say that was too little too late. He was pretty merciful considering what Jesse did. If anything, Walt's sense of humanity and love for Jesse cost him in the end, not a lack of those things. If anything, his good nature was his downfall, and he ended up being betrayed by all of those whom he loved. This show is a modern day greek tragedy.

[TheSlayer]

(09-17-2013 12:34 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

I can't stand Skyler.

And I can't stand Flynn now either.

It's insane that he can sit there and see his mom pull a knife on Walter, see his dad disarm her, and then call the police saying he put a knife to her.

I hate that his money is gone but 11 million is nothing to sneeze at.

I hate Skyler too especially from the earlier seasons, she did redeem herself in season 5 a little bit until the last episode. As for Flynn I am not sure how I feel. As a 16 year old (though he looks much older on the show and he is 20-21 I think) what would you do if you just found out that your dad who you kind of worship and care for is a drug kingpin and the uncle with whom you had a father-figure type relationship is dead (and you think your dad had something to do with it)?