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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 01:17 PM
Economic clouds are already here, so it is just a matter of time.
Not sure where you live, but things aren't too rosy for jobs in the local marketplace where I live.
The stock market house of cards will come crashing down sooner or later, it will be the minnows like us that will lose everything anyways.
Today I was reading an article about how safe are pension's are and the government will raid private pensions soon.
Now as for the women being easier if things go bust, I am not sure that will happen. If you notice on a global scale women tend to move to better places with more opportunity (wealthier men) than men do.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 01:19 PM
Yeah, I don't think this is a viable option to "wait on" for the situation to get better with girls.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 01:26 PM
Let me ask just one question:
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Has the economic crash made Argentina into a pussy paradise?
Of course not! As Roosh reported, women there are as difficult as anywhere, albeit prettier.
Don't count on anything short of a mass starvation fixing women.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 01:39 PM
Argentina is an outlier that should not be used in ANY man's comparison of foreign women.
Better to look at a place like Ukraine or Moldova, where impoverishment gives Western men a leg up, assuming they learn the needed skills in dealing with such women.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 01:43 PM
What if there's a SHTF scenario that leads to a massive decrease in political correctness? For example, attitudes towards feminism, multiculturalism, racial tolerance, etc...?
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 02:10 PM
A lot of you guys don't remember the 1970s. The economic situation in the US was off the charts awful. We had "stagflation", a massive energy crisis (complete with national gas rationing), interest rates upwards of 15% or more, some sundry rioting, high crime rates (e.g. NYC was a raving shithole and fucking dangerous), declining urban areas.
Feminism gained momentum during those bad times... go figure.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 02:47 PM
I think sometimes we have to take a step back and separate the economy from the banking system. The banking system already failed, with too much leverage and not enough capital. The Treasury printed money, which the Fed bought and they propped up the banks. Most people are too worried about watching reality TV to realize it already collapsed.
The US debt is a mess, and will continue to get worse, but as long as interest rates remain low, politicians (as long as we keep electing them) will see no need to curb deficit spending. Think of it as being able to afford the minimum payment on the monthly credit card.
We are in many ways so interconnected now, that it is a global issue which will need to be addressed; unless one economy takes over leadership and then the U.S. may feel some pain. Having natural resources will eventually win out, but this will take many years to play out.
The only three ways out that I can come up with to get out of this issue:
1) Devalue the currency: Flood the system with money, and inflation takes off. Yeah it may cost $50 for a sandwich, but your house is now worth $1 millon with only a $100 thousand mortgage…so you’re rich…right? Makes the debt seem smaller in comparison.
2) Higher taxes: Last I checked, private assets in the U.S. still outweighed the public debt. So politicians invoke a one-time tax calling in any liquid assets over say $1 million. Soak the rich to pay off the debt. (I joke, but maybe not so far fetched the way we are going…)
3) Hit the reset button: yeah, a global “do over”. Less likely, but a coordinated cancellation of govt debt pari passu to their underlying economies could roll things back to more manageable levels. Just like holding the bonds of a bankrupt company. You get 9 cents on the dollar. Opps, too bad. Hope you weren’t holding those bonds for retirement..
My personal view is that eventually the Federal government will be weakened, and States will reclaim some power (which they should already have if not for the Fed being a bully), and you will see migration to the states with the best economies and pro business environments (like Texas). The heavy entitlement states will have to change course or have big problems (Michigan).
Anyway, even if the system collapses, I don’t see it turning into a lock down your house, grab your guns and “you better know how to grow your own crops” situation. People will wake up and still need to eat, hospitals will still have a purpose. Goods and services will still need to be produced. People will still be able to work. It may just have to be under a different system. Hey, it happens. The U.S has had a pretty good run, and many just take it for granted.
But to the original poster’s comment, will the entitled chicks get a smackdown from a weakened economy? Maybe a little, but it will happen to them eventually when the wall hits. Still think we should largely write off the female generation who were either born, or came of age, during the two bubbles (tech and real estate). They grew up in the easy money days and know little else. Be naturally skeptical of women born between 1980 and about 1994. Most, unless raised correctly (doubtful), don’t know any differently.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 02:58 PM
Quote: (07-22-2013 02:47 PM)Spader Wrote:
I think sometimes we have to take a step back and separate the economy from the banking system. The banking system already failed, with too much leverage and not enough capital. The Treasury printed money, which the Fed bought and they propped up the banks. Most people are too worried about watching reality TV to realize it already collapsed.
The US debt is a mess, and will continue to get worse, but as long as interest rates remain low, politicians (as long as we keep electing them) will see no need to curb deficit spending. Think of it as being able to afford the minimum payment on the monthly credit card.
We are in many ways so interconnected now, that it is a global issue which will need to be addressed; unless one economy takes over leadership and then the U.S. may feel some pain. Having natural resources will eventually win out, but this will take many years to play out.
The only three ways out that I can come up with to get out of this issue:
1) Devalue the currency: Flood the system with money, and inflation takes off. Yeah it may cost $50 for a sandwich, but your house is now worth $1 millon with only a $100 thousand mortgage…so you’re rich…right? Makes the debt seem smaller in comparison.
2) Higher taxes: Last I checked, private assets in the U.S. still outweighed the public debt. So politicians invoke a one-time tax calling in any liquid assets over say $1 million. Soak the rich to pay off the debt. (I joke, but maybe not so far fetched the way we are going…)
3) Hit the reset button: yeah, a global “do over”. Less likely, but a coordinated cancellation of govt debt pari passu to their underlying economies could roll things back to more manageable levels. Just like holding the bonds of a bankrupt company. You get 9 cents on the dollar. Opps, too bad. Hope you weren’t holding those bonds for retirement..
My personal view is that eventually the Federal government will be weakened, and States will reclaim some power (which they should already have if not for the Fed being a bully), and you will see migration to the states with the best economies and pro business environments (like Texas). The heavy entitlement states will have to change course or have big problems (Michigan).
Anyway, even if the system collapses, I don’t see it turning into a lock down your house, grab your guns and “you better know how to grow your own crops” situation. People will wake up and still need to eat, hospitals will still have a purpose. Goods and services will still need to be produced. People will still be able to work. It may just have to be under a different system. Hey, it happens. The U.S has had a pretty good run, and many just take it for granted.
But to the original poster’s comment, will the entitled chicks get a smackdown from a weakened economy? Maybe a little, but it will happen to them eventually when the wall hits. Still think we should largely write off the female generation who were either born, or came of age, during the two bubbles (tech and real estate). They grew up in the easy money days and know little else. Be naturally skeptical of women born between 1980 and about 1994. Most, unless raised correctly (doubtful), don’t know any differently.
excellent post bro.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 03:16 PM
rudebwoy - I'd curious to read that article. Could you post a link? Thanks.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 03:20 PM
So people are happy the economy is going to collapse to they can swoop girls? I'd rather have the economy be good, make a bunch of money, and travel to swoop quality girls. It's not like it's hard to get laid in the US anyways.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 05:33 PM
I think some people fantasize about the ability to have a societal, or global "reset"
They think that we could start from scratch and not make the same mistakes, or that many of the ills of civilization would reverse themselves
When times get worse, there are a few truths:
1) Governments and those in power seek greater measures of control over people
2) People look for scapegoats, or start to identify on a more tribal/nationalistic level
If anything, the global deleveraging is going to inspire numerous courses, theories, books, etc. on how "The Patriarchy Caused The Crash"
You're already hearing the beginnings of this, with talk of men taking "macho risks", and if there were more diversity and females in front office finance, we wouldn't have the same problems with greed, fraud and malinvestment.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 05:46 PM
I don't think an economic collapse is imminent. Possibly in a few decades but that's too far away to predict with any kind of certainty and there's no way to know how it will play out. It bugs me when people put on airs of knowing the future like this.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 06:07 PM
People have "predicted" an economic meltdown for over 20 years - longer, no doubt, that's just as far back as I can remember.
The economy has booms and busts and yet continues to plug along.
Don't believe the hype.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 06:21 PM
I think there is a strange subtext to wishes that the economy would collapse so that American girls (or is it girls in America?) will finally know their role and shut their mouths. So everything has to go to shit so that the pussy is easier? I think some guys (none here I think) are wishing for destruction so that finally they get the girls they think they deserve. Plus, the world is fundamentally different than it used to be in ancient times. Empires could be isolated. If the US goes down, the whole world goes down.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 06:27 PM
People want the economy collapse because they are failing.
Human beings have a cursed mindset that goes, "I don't care if the world collapses because then everyone will suffer as I do."
The vast majority of people would rather live in the Dark Ages a equals rather than live in a modern, civilized world where some have more economic and personal success than they do.
Show me a guy who wants a collapse and I'll show you someone who is losing at life.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 06:29 PM
Quote: (07-22-2013 06:21 PM)Menace Wrote:
I think there is a strange subtext to wishes that the economy would collapse so that American girls (or is it girls in America?) will finally know their role and shut their mouths. So everything has to go to shit so that the pussy is easier? I think some guys (none here I think) are wishing for destruction so that finally they get the girls they think they deserve. Plus, the world is fundamentally different than it used to be in ancient times. Empires could be isolated. If the US goes down, the whole world goes down.
I don't wish for the destruction of the US. the problem with the guys who want that is that they aren't right in their heads to just want pain and suffering just so that they can get some american cat when they can just go to the Philippines or Ukraine to get a descent looking cat that will be a million times better than some american cat. now, for the destruction of the US, I don't think it will happen yet. yes, there is a crisis coming, as it's very obvious because all these bubbles we have going on can't last forever (like the college tuition bubble) but I don't think the destruction will come too soon.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 06:31 PM
Quote: (07-22-2013 06:27 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Show me a guy who wants a collapse and I'll show you someone who is losing at life.
^that.
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Roosh's New Post - Some readers commented about economic collapse
07-22-2013, 09:45 PM
Economic downturns, recessions, depressions, and maybe even crashes aren't stopping or even pausing the relentless improvement in standard of living. A poor person today lives better (in many ways) than a rich person a decade ago. You couldn't buy an iPhone 10 years ago, no matter how much money you had.
The mechanisms Roosh writes about (and I think he is correct) that enable women to behave like they do aren't going away any time soon. More girls are going to have smartphones next year than they did this year. A larger percentage of them will be fat, if you can even believe that.
Economics be damned. I don't see this situation getting better any time soon.