Quote: (04-14-2013 08:48 PM)kdolo Wrote:
"Fuck that. Prison should be hell on earth. That's why I like Sheriff Joe Arpaio. He puts these scumbags out in tent camps in the Arizona desert and feeds them nothing but peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Prison SHOULD be tough and miserable and a place you can't fathom living in."
I disagree. Historically - going back to the Common Law, prison is to protect the community by removing serious threats: habitual murderers, rapists, crazies, major political threats.
Removal of these people from society IS their punishment. To make prison "hell on earth" only serves to satisfy your sadistic and unjust desires to pile continual punishment upon severe punishment already meted out: removal from society.
If Arpaio really treats inmates this way, then he is a sadist and potential sociopath. People associated with those types of professions tend to score high on these tendencies (law enforcement/corrections/military) - they get off on inflicting suffering on those whom justice and punishment has already been meted.
Remember, most "scumbags" in jail are actually not at all. Most are jail for things that are not even crimes going back to Common Law and/or are violations to our Constitution
1. violating sumptuary laws - consuming, selling relatively minor quantities of natural plants and their derivatives.
2. Debtors: men who owe and can't pay child support OR taxes
3. people held for "conspiracy to .....(fill in crime) -" simply talking about and planning a crime cannot be a crime because there is no victim - no bad act - only thoughts and talking both of which are protected by the first amendment.
4. Violators of codes/laws where such violations are not violent and pose no-little threat to human life and property: immigration.
5. Possession of firearms without proper: permit/license/registration/ - or concealed where not allowed etc. - all restrictions - of which are illegal under Common Law - and the Constitution - the 2nd amendment places no such restriction on firearm use and expressly forbids any 'infringement'.
So, many of these "scumbags" you are talking about are actually regular normal people who do no deserve to be placed into 'living hell' - further punishment upon their first punishment - (removal from society) for crimes - which in fact should may not be crimes at all.
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This.
There is no logic behind making a prisoner suffer, all the officers trying to make it "hell" for the inmates probably have some sort of mental issues.
If the guy is a murderer than he should be killed, but thieves, rapist, drug dealers, and all the rest are just regular dudes.
They have already been removed from society, they can't enjoy going to bars, hanging out with families, pick up hot bitches and all the goodies that come with being part of society.
Guys in prison are already punished just by being there, we should let the niggas smoke some weed have a nice beer and fuck hookers.
I don't know what it feels like to be locked up in a room for years with no pun but man, it must be horrible.