What would you do if you were the father of this kid?

The Sikh boy labelled a 'terrorist' by his classmates

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In an act of defiance against his bullies, a Sikh schoolboy filmed himself facing racist abuse on a school bus in Georgia. The footage has been viewed almost half a million times, and sparked a conversation about bullying in school.

In the film the boy points the camera at his face, while one of his female classmates can be seen behind him shouting "terrorist, terrorist", and pointing an accusatory finger. The boy is wearing a patka, the traditional headdress of Sikh boys. "Kids being racist to me," he explains to the camera. "Quit filming us" the girl says, but the boy refuses. "I can't if you're being racist to me," he replies, before swearing at her and shouting in exasperation "who cares? I don't care".

Would you tell the kid to fight back? What do you think is the best thing to do?

The problem is nowadays kids who fight back can get into a lot of trouble with the school. When I was 15 somebody at my school was being racist to me so I beat the shit out of him. I explained to the teacher what happened and he let me go, and he told the other kid not to say stuff like that again. This was in the 1990’s - if the same thing happened today we probably would have kicked out of the school.

If I was the kid’s dad I would cut his hair so that he doesn't have to wear the head covering. The other kids would probably no longer give him shit for it. I went to school with a few guys with a similar head covering and eventually they all cut their hair and the bullying stopped.

It's the law of the jungle right or wrong you have to stand up for yourself. I taught my son to not take shit from anyone. I even told him if you get In a fight defending yourself. You are going to get In trouble with the school and there is not much I can do about it. But it is still the ring thing to do.

And I will support him all the way up to and including in the deans office in front of both the dean and my son.

And those little shits will respect him after that.

I would teach him to beat the shit out of anyone who insults him in anyway.

This is frowned upon in today's vagina society so instead he should ignore this and bring this to the attention of the media so more ignorant ass parents and school teachers can show their kids not to racially profile.

Seriously when I was that age kids got made fun of for being fat or smelling weird now 7 years old know what a terrorist "looks like"

Great society we are moving into.

I'd tell him to start a viral GoFundMe page showcasing the video and asking for money by plucking on the heartstrings of the gullible leftwingtards to help fight my family's/peoples' social injustices. Getting rich anno 2015.

"Son, not everyone you meet in life has to like you, and you don't have to like them back. Resorting to Public Shaming, thereby forcing your entire school to undertake 'Sensitivity Training' in an attempt to make them like you, or else, is bitch behaviour, and will make you despised."

"I was going to have this conversation when you were older, but... son, you're adopted."

My best friend is Indian, but was born and raised Stateside. We live in the South, so there are a lot of dumbfucks down here and he got called a few names like 'terrorist' etc. after 9/11.

One time I personally witnessed somebody say something under their breath when walking past him and he turned around, got in front of the person and said, "Look, dude. I was born and raised here. I'm an American first and and Indian second. Secondly, I'm not a Muslim, I'm a Hindu. And if you think you are having problems with Muslims now, realize the fact that India has been dealing with this shit for almost 60 years. We are literally on the front lines of this war and we get attacked every single day. If you are going to insult someone, make sure you insult your enemies and not your allies."

<<Except he was a little more eloquent and very forceful yet restrained. He told me he did this little spiel several times, basically any time anyone said something to him, which was only a few times. He said he got a sincere apology every time, I know he did that time.

He and his twin brother are my best friends and I consider them like blood-brothers. They are the funniest, most witty people I have ever met in my life.

I would tell the Sikh kid to explain how the Sikhs are even more oppressed by Muslim terrorists than Americans are and to illustrate that they are on our side in this struggle. If that didn't win them over, film the taunts so you have evidence, then turn the camera off and find the biggest bully and punch him in the face in front of everyone, even if you get your ass-kicked. Bullies hate when someone stands up for oneself and usually won't fuck with you again if you show a willingness to thrown down. That's what my Dad taught me and it worked the only 2 times I had to do it.

Quote: (03-04-2015 04:58 PM)Oz. Wrote:  

Seriously when I was that age kids got made fun of for being fat or smelling weird now 7 years old know what a terrorist "looks like"

Great society we are moving into.

I blame the shithead parents. My niece is a British-Indian and when she was 6, one of her classmates told her to go back to her country. Since when do 6 years old give a shit about immigration?

Quote: (03-04-2015 05:08 PM)Farmageddon Wrote:  

My best friend is Indian, but was born and raised Stateside. We live in the South, so there are a lot of dumbfucks down here and he got called a few names like 'terrorist' etc. after 9/11.

One time I personally witnessed somebody say something under their breath when walking past him and he turned around, got in front of the person and said, "Look, dude. I was born and raised here. I'm an American first and and Indian second. Secondly, I'm not a Muslim, I'm a Hindu. And if you think you are having problems with Muslims now, realize the fact that India has been dealing with this shit for almost 60 years. We are literally on the front lines of this war and we get attacked every single day. If you are going to insult someone, make sure you insult your enemies and not your allies."

I don’t really agree with that approach. If somebody was abusing an actual Muslim, would your friend think that’s OK? Sikhs are not at war with Muslims – a lot of shit has gone down in the past, but that’s water under the bridge. There’s no [US + Other religions] vs Islam struggle going on as far as I can see. The US has many Muslim allies.

I’m not a liberal tree hugging faggot, but I don’t really stand for anybody being given shit because of their race or religion.

Quote: (03-04-2015 05:08 PM)Farmageddon Wrote:  

film the taunts so you have evidence, then turn the camera off and find the biggest bully and punch him in the face in front of everyone, even if you get your ass-kicked. Bullies hate when someone stands up for oneself and usually won't fuck with you again if you show a willingness to thrown down. That's what my Dad taught me and it worked the only 2 times I had to do it.

That's a good tactic.
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By the way, some Sikh militants did carry out acts of terrorism in the 1980s:

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Air India Flight 182 was an Air India flight operating on the Montreal, Canada–London, UK –Delhi, India route. On 23 June 1985, this Boeing 747-237B (c/n 21473/330, registration VT-EFO) was destroyed by a bomb at an altitude of 31,000 feet (9,400 m). It crashed into the Atlantic Ocean while in Irish airspace. It was the first bombing of a 747 jumbo jet. A total of 329 people were killed, including 268 Canadian citizens, 27 Britons, and 24 Indians.The majority of the victims were Canadian citizens of Indian ancestry. The incident was the largest mass murder in Canadian history.

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Canadian law enforcement determined that the main suspects in the bombing were members of the Sikh militant group Babbar Khalsa. The attack is thought to have been a retaliation against India for the operation carried out by the Indian Army Operation Blue Star to flush out several hundred Sikh who were within the premises of the Golden temple and the surrounding structures ordered by the Indian government, headed by Prime Minister Indira Gandhi. Though a handful of members were arrested and tried, Inderjit Singh Reyat, a Canadian national, remains the only person legally convicted of involvement in the bombing. Singh pleaded guilty in 2003 to manslaughter. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison for building the bombs that exploded aboard Flight 182 and at Narita.

Degenerate parents raise monster kids. Home schooling or good private schools are the answer.

Being labeled terrorist is no doubt hurtful and something no child should suffer.

However, I don't see the wrong in kids making fun of a kid who wears a Indian hat or whatever it is. These accessories are the production of weird, introverted cultures that base their values on submission to God, abandoning individuality and adapting the group's characteristics. In other words, it's a uniform. It indicates that you belong to a certain group of people. It's not simply practicing your religion and beliefs, it's about displaying them. By wearing that hat, 1) You are declaring to the world that you are different from them and that you belong to a certain group, 2) You are showing that you think that they are wrong and YOURS is the right way, that they will probably go to hell while you go to wherever it is that your people think they will go. Thus, you are purposely separating yourself from the others while passively belittling their beliefs. So how can you be offended or even surprised when people make fun of you?

Things like that have no place in our modern society, certainly not in societies where the majority of the locals don't practice them or understand them, like any Western country. If you wear them nevertheless, the children are going to make fun of you because, well, they are children and you are different in a bad way, in a weird and culturally alien way.

Let me be clear. You wear NORMAL clothes (like jeans+t-shirt or suit or whatever is appropriate for the setting), shave your beard or at least trim it, work on your accent and don't preach, and then if people make fun of you because of your religion and call you terrorist, I'm going to have sympathy for you. I will defend your right not to be discriminated against. But if you grow a terrorist beard and wear a round white hat and then go around and demand people not to mind this identity that you are basically showing off, you deserve what's coming to you.

The child in the video of course won't be able to think critically like this. He will defend whatever he is told by his parents. So I only blame the parents for letting their children be insulted and go through this nightmare in the most fragile period of his life, and for what, practicing a religion. This child turns out fucked up, it's on the parents.

It's difficult to know the background with this kid from such a short video. This may have been going on for a while in a despicable manner, or it may have been an extension of the type of name-calling that kids typically do to one another. Maybe both the Sikh and the other kids routinely traded racist/insensitive barbs back and forth or maybe this kid is routinely being shoved around with no friends or allies.

If this is the result of both sides making fun of each other, I see no problem and the kid is just attention whoring (likely under the direction of a parent). If this is the result of racist xenophobia then it is a problem.

I told my kid if she gets bullied even though I doubt it will happen to get the kids last name then I'll go bully the parents myself.

A beastly racist little girl acting like a wild animal, typically behavior reserved for boys. She's going to grow up to be the perfect feminist.

What do you think would happen if he popped a member of the most privileged class in America right in the face for being a hateful bully?

Quote: (03-04-2015 05:35 PM)turkishcandy Wrote:  

However, I don't see the wrong in kids making fun of a kid who wears a Indian hat or whatever it is. These accessories are the production of weird, introverted cultures that base their values on submission to God, abandoning individuality and adapting the group's characteristics. In other words, it's a uniform. It indicates that you belong to a certain group of people. It's not simply practicing your religion and beliefs, it's about displaying them. By wearing that hat, 1) You are declaring to the world that you are different from them and that you belong to a certain group, 2) You are showing that you think that they are wrong and YOURS is the right way, that they will probably go to hell while you go to wherever it is that your people think they will go. Thus, you are purposely separating yourself from the others while passively belittling their beliefs. So how can you be offended or even surprised when people make fun of you?

Incorrect – Sikhism doesn’t belittle other people’s religion, in fact it’s one of the most tolerant religions out there. Sikhism doesn’t teach that their way is the right way and every other way is wrong. Some of other monotheistic faiths preach something like that, but Sikhism doesn’t.

Parents from certain countries oftentimes seem to intentionally try to avoid the assimilation of their kids. They don't realize they're in America now. In some very diverse school districts, this probably wouldn't matter, but it's still making the kid stand out in a bad way to the general public.

This video hasn't been shown on the MSM in the US. The obvious reason, it's not LGBT bullying.

If the kid tries to fight back, it will only alienate him further. All they can do is try to assimilate him better or move somewhere more diverse.

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What do you think would happen if he popped a member of the most privileged class in America right in the face for being a hateful bully?

I'll be honest: I didn't watch the video before I made my comment and didn't realize it was a girl. The thread title just reminded me of my Indian buddy and an incident I witnessed.

After watching the video, if it was a girl, I would tell my kid to immediately insult her back and make sure everyone heard it. But use really funny insults and try to get everybody laughing and on your side.

Stand up and face her and say very loudly,

"Yeah, well, she's so white you know what she makes for dinner? RESERVATIONS."

"You're so fat when you get on the scale it just says, "GOD DAMN!"

I'd make sure he had about 20 really good ones locked and loaded to unleash on her when the time was right. 100% he could get a bunch of rowdy kids on his side.

This is nothing -- nothing. There is no way to even call this "bullying". Just a little mild taunting, shit like this goes on on every school bus all the time. The idea that there is anything "shocking" or even remotely noteworthy about this video is a testament to the unbelievably coddled and gentled mood of pre-war America.

All this kid needs to do in response to this kind of taunting is laugh it off, respond with some taunting of his own and be cool, and it will stop. If it gets worse or physical, he can fight back but it's not even at that point and quite likely would never get there.

-sigh-

This reminds me of when I was a kid and I got picked on for being "different" aka Pakistani.

Words like "terrorist" "camel jockey" "sand nigg"...well you get the gist.

Of course there were no cell phone cameras back then.

This was PRE 9/11 - it stayed the same after.

However there was a major difference, I laughed it off and shook my head at it, and would have way better come backs.

I was a skater kid and the boys in my neighborhood had my back, we'd all make fun of each other.

I'd absolutely film the shit out of them, if any one of those motherfuckers got physical, it's go time.

My son would know that would be okay in my book, always stand up for yourself.

Quote: (03-04-2015 06:00 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

-sigh-

This reminds me of when I was a kid and I got picked on for being "different" aka Pakistani.

Words like "terrorist" "camel jockey" "sand nigg"...well you get the gist.

Of course there were no cell phone cameras back then.

This was PRE 9/11 - it stayed the same after.

However there was a major difference, I laughed it off and shook my head at it, and would have way better come backs.

I was a skater kid and the boys in my neighborhood had my back, we'd all make fun of each other.

I'd absolutely film the shit out of them, if any one of those motherfuckers got physical, it's go time.

My son would know that would be okay in my book, always stand up for yourself.

I feel ya man. I got bullied in Norway for being a "damn Paki" almost daily.

I'm not a Paki though and didn't really know what it meant so I was like what?? What the fuck are you talking about? C'mere for a sec.. serious C'mere that was usually the end of it but I remember staggering around the streets one night and some girl say "go home you damn paki" and I said what? I'm american you retard. She said "even worse" Irony.. She was wearing a jacket that said USA on it. lol Good times over there.

I'd blame myself for raising my family in the Deep South.

WIA

Enjoy the decline gents when kids can't defend themselves

Quote: (03-04-2015 06:19 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

I'd blame myself for raising my family in the Deep South.

WIA

The Deep South can mean many things I consider people in Georgia to be northerners

The common reaction of racists/bullies/whomever when they become aware that a camera is recording their misdeeds is priceless.

The transformation from perpetrator to victim is instantaneous. In this video the girl went from being the name-caller to being the one who is harassed. It's the exact same reaction in adults.

There's some type of innate circuitry that immediately fires in people's heads when they see a camera recording their bullshit. They suddenly realize that they may have to take accountability for what they're doing. Queue the next level of victimization and all of the sudden it's the person who is filming that is harassing them.

Now they feel ashamed instead of what they really should feel: guilt.
Their new found shame now dictates that they have every right to inform that person that they're not allowed to film and may even attack the person holding the camera in an effort to delete or destroy evidence that they feel was unfairly acquired (because they're now the victim). All in an effort to absolve themselves of any wrong doing, and alleviate their shame.

It speaks volumes about society in general, when people have ceased having the ability to admit when they're wrong, or even curve their behavior when they're caught. They would rather resort to playing the victim or go even further by attempting to attack and destroy any record of their misdeeds. All because people no longer possess the ability to be introspective about their actions in order to see that what they were doing may have been wrong and that perhaps they're the ones that need to change.

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Quote: (03-04-2015 06:19 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

I'd blame myself for raising my family in the Deep South.

WIA

The Deep South can mean many things I consider people in Georgia to be northerners

If we're talking FL, if it ain't Miami, that's the deep South too.

WIA

Quote: (03-04-2015 06:41 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Quote: (03-04-2015 06:34 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Quote: (03-04-2015 06:19 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

I'd blame myself for raising my family in the Deep South.

WIA

The Deep South can mean many things I consider people in Georgia to be northerners

If we're talking FL, if it ain't Miami, that's the deep South too.

WIA

How do you know?

When I was in secondary school, some of my classmates made fun of my lips *