Quote: (09-06-2011 01:39 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Quote: (09-06-2011 01:30 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-06-2011 01:23 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Here we go!!

Its on.

So I looked at your profile. It looks pretty basic. Did you contact her or just browse her profile? She's all about white dudes she says.

I gotta tell ya I'm having a lotta fun sport-fishing with you guys today. Great thread.

I just looked and she was all over it..Remember that I'm in west Florida..Pic and basic works

Well I think your pic is a little more enticing than mine. I am posing with a fat girl statue.

That's it I'm going to Walmart after work and taking a pic of me holding a toy machine gun in the same stance as yours and see what happens. LOL

Quote: (09-06-2011 12:23 PM)guey Wrote:  

Quote: (09-06-2011 12:21 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Copying a profile is a good way to get both accounts banned on POF. I advise against it and copy/pastas on POF as they'll ban your IP forever so you can't create any new profiles... and the ones you do create don't actually send/receive messages for the few hours before that account is deleted.

IPs are dynamic through most ISPs these days. If they blocked it, it would only last until the IP is refreshed.

Regardless, the banning is real and permanent.

Quote: (09-06-2011 11:33 AM)guey Wrote:  

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E-Wing? hahaha That's great!! It's 07660

Ut-oh, New Jersey.

I am not sure that the girls from New Jersey possess the intellect to really understand anything beyond how "Italian" they are and how much they love going down the Shore.

You might be in trouble using my profile. They might actually think you're serious.

Here's a Jersey stereotype for you...

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/09/com...book_nymag

Here's my profile. What do you guys think?

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/SillyEyedDog

Quote: (09-06-2011 06:46 PM)TheWolfHowls Wrote:  

Here's my profile. What do you guys think?

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/SillyEyedDog

I like it but you failed to list DAY BANG in your favorite books? No, very funny! !Maybe a lil heavy on the Erkle but, Very good!

The photo of the black chick you posted works. I'd definitely pursue her.

Met quite a few black girls who "only were into white guys". In my neck of the woods, this is rare.

Black girls who like thugged out, uneducated, fake "gangsters" are the norm around here.

I don't see the appeal in that, but then again, I'm not a 19 year old black girl from West Baltimore.

I need to create a POF profile. I KNOW I could blast through tons of these chicks down in South Jersey, but I'm just way too lazy to create one.

Quote: (09-06-2011 08:44 PM)DTA Wrote:  

I need to create a POF profile. I KNOW I could blast through tons of these chicks down in South Jersey, but I'm just way too lazy to create one.

You guys are acting like creating an ONLINE DATING PROFILE is some arduous task involving some sort of scientific formula.

Have some fun with it. If it feels like work, you aren't going to sound like a very fun guy to be around. This stuff bleeds through in the text.

Quote: (09-06-2011 06:46 PM)TheWolfHowls Wrote:  

Here's my profile. What do you guys think?

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/SillyEyedDog

I think you're on the right track in some aspects, lacking in others.

If I were you, I'd definitely play the "I'm a black guyyyyy" angle a lot.

In your profile, make fun of yourself for being black. Lay it on THICK. Use a lot of SMART and witty humor. Make obscure historical references. You should layer it on so thick that it comes off as almost offensive to black people in general.

You're going to piss a lot of black girls off, I am sure. But a few will get it and appreciate your sick sense of humor. White girls will like it because reflects you are not some thug idiot. (Which unfortunately is how many white girls view black guys in modern America. Completely unfair, but nonetheless true.)

The more offensive, the better. Most won't get it and will think you're a self hating black man. But the ones that DO get it, those are the ones you will definitely fuck after meeting.

Buena suerte.

On a side note, I use this technique with latinas a lot.

I always mention how I hate gringos, especially blanquitos. What a bunch of assholes they are.

Me dan asco los blanquitos. Norteamericano pendejo cabroncitos.

Pelo rubio? Que tipo de hombre tiene PELO RUBIO?

Meanwhile, I'm as blonde haired and blanquito as they come.

Quote: (09-06-2011 08:58 PM)guey Wrote:  

Quote: (09-06-2011 06:46 PM)TheWolfHowls Wrote:  

Here's my profile. What do you guys think?

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/SillyEyedDog

I think you're on the right track in some aspects, lacking in others.

If I were you, I'd definitely play the "I'm a black guyyyyy" angle a lot.

In your profile, make fun of yourself for being black. Lay it on THICK. Use a lot of SMART and witty humor. Make obscure historical references. You should layer it on so thick that it comes off as almost offensive to black people in general.

You're going to piss a lot of black girls off, I am sure. But a few will get it and appreciate your sick sense of humor. White girls will like it because reflects you are not some thug idiot. (Which unfortunately is how many white girls view black guys in modern America. Completely unfair, but nonetheless true.)

The more offensive, the better. Most won't get it and will think you're a self hating black man. But the ones that DO get it, those are the ones you will definitely fuck after meeting.

Buena suerte.

Very good suggestion! What would you say i'm lacking in? Def don't hold back

Quote: (09-06-2011 09:58 AM)guey Wrote:  

I change the profile all the time with new ridiculous shit. Girls eat it up.
Here is my profile:
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=31182465

That's actually a great profile. I ran couple of those during my research, and it also worked well.

Quote: (09-06-2011 10:24 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Alright man. I'm doing a little experiment. I copied your profile word for word but I'm using my pics of course. If I get even one lay from it I'll mail you a check for $20. LOL

Bad idea.
This is the main problem guys have when they ask someone to write them a profile, or a good opener line. They get attention, they get the girl's response, they respond... and that's where it ends.

This happens because you are not congruent to this profile and opener, so a chick sees the significant difference between your profile and your second response. Then she assumes you're a fake, a spam bot or whatever - and ignores you.

And pictures matter more than profile text. You can get away even with a shitty profile when you get cool pictures of yourself.

Quote: (09-06-2011 08:49 PM)guey Wrote:  

Quote: (09-06-2011 08:44 PM)DTA Wrote:  

I need to create a POF profile. I KNOW I could blast through tons of these chicks down in South Jersey, but I'm just way too lazy to create one.

You guys are acting like creating an ONLINE DATING PROFILE is some arduous task involving some sort of scientific formula.

Have some fun with it. If it feels like work, you aren't going to sound like a very fun guy to be around. This stuff bleeds through in the text.

This is great advice, but unfortunately:

1) A lot of the guys (even here) creating profiles aren't the best writers, especially when it comes to themselves. Ha, no not directed at anyone.

2) Inexperience and poor strategies with online dating attributes to most of the lack of success.

I get what you are saying. Telling me to have fun with it would work because I know how the system works... but to anyone else it's like telling a beta to "be himself."

A lot of guys make the same mistakes (i.e. giving away too little or too much, bad photos, etc.). Believe it or not, there is a "scientific formula" to it. This just gave me a great idea for a new blog post in addition to more book material, thanks.

Quote: (09-07-2011 02:51 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Quote: (09-06-2011 10:24 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Alright man. I'm doing a little experiment. I copied your profile word for word but I'm using my pics of course. If I get even one lay from it I'll mail you a check for $20. LOL

Bad idea.
This is the main problem guys have when they ask someone to write them a profile, or a good opener line. They get attention, they get the girl's response, they respond... and that's where it ends.

This happens because you are not congruent to this profile and opener, so a chick sees the significant difference between your profile and your second response. Then she assumes you're a fake, a spam bot or whatever - and ignores you.

And pictures matter more than profile text. You can get away even with a shitty profile when you get cool pictures of yourself.

This is why when I work with people on their profiles I have them write it themselves first... THEN make changes as necessary. You are exactly right.

Parlay:

I know you got at least ONE message. I'd like that Rep now

..and oh yeah, don't forget my $20 check when you pound her silly.

Quote: (09-07-2011 08:25 PM)guey Wrote:  

Parlay:

I know you got at least ONE message. I'd like that Rep now

..and oh yeah, don't forget my $20 check when you pound her silly.

Honestly I didn't get even one e-mail from it. I guess my ugly face scared them away before they could read it.

I do much better in person than online. When I take the time to dress presentable, shave and shower and all that I get approached often by women.

I'm gonna try el mechanico's method and advice about looking like a Russian mafia thug in my profile pic and see how that shakes out.

I'll give ya the rep point though for starting a good thread and cracking me up.

Quote: (09-07-2011 07:19 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

This is why when I work with people on their profiles I have them write it themselves first... THEN make changes as necessary. You are exactly right.

During my research one of my profiles stated "I smoke crack, and enjoy rough sex. No drama and no fatties please.". That's it, and a funny picture of some drug addict with a syringe I've found on Mamba. I expected it to attract nobody, but surprisingly it attracted around 1/3 of those attracted to the best profile I had, mostly from middle-age professional crowd. Made me quite confused at that time, but one conclusion I've made is that a lot of people make a mistake that they overdo their online presence - too much information, too many pictures, messages are too long, and they keep messaging for too long.

My conclusions so far (not finalized yet):

1. The shorter your profile is, the better. Even if it is very funny. A chick decides whether she wants to talk to you by looking at your picture, overall writing style and first several sentences. A longer profile makes it easier for you to screw up (for example, you may list the movie you liked which she thinks only creepy people like).

2. If your profile looks like your resume, the only people you gonna laid with are girls like that who are fat.

3. Test your profile: show it to three nerdy friends. You don't have to tell them it is yours, just email them a sample. If all you get is "great profile!" or "well, I think it is ok", see item 2. If they tell you "this is sick, no way this dude would get laid with shit like that" or "I spit Coke on my keyboard while reading it you sick fuck", use it. Just make sure you spell-check it.

4. Your first and second message should be templates. It enables automation (i.e. bots), and makes your job easier. Write them accordingly.

5. No matter what you wrote, the chick reads your first message as "I looked at your profile picture and you passed my boner test; wanna some dick?". You will get some minor benefit of doubt when you start by asking a genuine question about her interests, but it just delays the inevitable - as soon as you transition to normal conversation, it is "wanna some dick".

6. If your profile is serious, use the funny opener. If your profile is funny, use serious opener. Personally in my research I didn't see any significant difference between pinging with "I was bored and clicked on your profile. How's your day?" and some interesting long stuff other guys fed to my honeypot female profiles.

7. Negs in the first message work, but only on young girls who are above average. Online sites are full of nerdy chicks who read "The Game" and will call you out on MM material

Gmac, how are things in your area?

OldNemesis:

I agree with most of what you said. For men, shorter profiles are better. For women, the other way around. Of course, like with anything, there are diminishing returns. For guys, I agree completely... the more you say, the higher the chance to slip up and say something she doesn't like and all of a sudden you're written off. The same goes for bad pictures. I'm working on a post that highlights the top 10 mistakes guys make that will probably go up on my blog tomorrow or next week. I haven't found negs to be particularly ineffective against any of the girls I encounter though, but it could be demographics. Even the nerdy chicks here in DC eat that shit up.

I'm trying to get away from 100% template usage. It's great when I want to play the numbers game but I think screws me over a lot when a find a profile of a girl that I think is definitely cool and/or DTF -- only to have her write me off as a player, spammer, or whatever and not respond because I sent her an obvious copy/paste message.

What I've started doing is using modified custom templates, where the first part of the message is funny and scripted... and the second works humor, wit, or a little seriousness into something they mentioned in their profile to start forming that "connection." So far, my response rates have been much higher, it just adds about another minute or two to each profile viewing/message creation.

I've already proved that I can pretty much fill up every day of my week with dates if I want to for weeks at a time on end (and bang 1/4 to 1/3 of those OR turn many of them into LTRs if I wanted to), so now I'm focusing more on profile reviews and coaching/mentoring for others. I'll probably offer a service for a small fee in the near future and start promoting it elsewhere.

A lot of this will be going into my book as well.

Good stuff fellas. Keep it up!!

Does anyone have any advice on GTA POF profiles. I created one once and I got no hits not even from fatsos..well that's not true but fcuk fatsos (figuratively).
So, any advice for Toronto POF? Canadians are more reserved than Americans and all that in your face shyt doesn't work for them.

Also, do you lot hit up the intimate encounter lizards or only the hang out lizards?

Quote: (09-08-2011 10:32 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Does anyone have any advice on GTA POF profiles. I created one once and I got no hits not even from fatsos..well that's not true but fcuk fatsos (figuratively).
So, any advice for Toronto POF? Canadians are more reserved than Americans and all that in your face shyt doesn't work for them.

Also, do you lot hit up the intimate encounter lizards or only the hang out lizards?

Don't touch intimate encounters unless you have a seperate profile dedicated to just that.
Girls restrict messages from people who have used it.
Whats the zip where you are moma? I want to see if my fake or real shit gets love up there

Quote: (09-08-2011 10:35 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2011 10:32 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Does anyone have any advice on GTA POF profiles. I created one once and I got no hits not even from fatsos..well that's not true but fcuk fatsos (figuratively).
So, any advice for Toronto POF? Canadians are more reserved than Americans and all that in your face shyt doesn't work for them.

Also, do you lot hit up the intimate encounter lizards or only the hang out lizards?

Don't touch intimate encounters unless you have a seperate profile dedicated to just that.
Girls restrict messages from people who have used it.
Whats the zip where you are moma? I want to see if my fake or real shit gets love up there

Throw this bitch >>> M4N2K5 in there and see what pops up for ya.

Done! I am now local in Toronto. This is cocoadenise should I wing her for you?
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Thats a fine sista!