I wonder if Fighting888 is Chinese? There’s a lot of 8’s in his names and some of his articles point to (east) Asians being above South Asians in certain stats.
Quote: (12-02-2014 05:59 AM)Arado Wrote:
Quote: (12-01-2014 02:13 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:
I’m not an American, but I say to people I’m not from India, and I’m from UK. With Americans, my accent overrides their perception of my skin colour. They generally see me as British. In China, I was hanging out with white Americans, so I guess the locals saw me as one of them. In Japan a lot of people also thought I was American for some reason.
There’s always women who can’t get past your ethnicity – next them!
This has been said many times before, but being seen with a diverse set of people straight away makes people think you are not a FOB.
To both Walter Black and the Slayer, I appreciate your advice, and I agree that it's spot on in Western countries. Accent and friend circle override ethnicity in the US/Canada/UK. If I was living in the US I wouldn't even post on this thread.
However, I'm talking about ABROAD - East Asia specifically, where Indians do not have the best reputation. How can you be socially deft and handle the ethnicity issue with a girl who is either fascinated/focused on your ethnicity.
I've posted several mock conversations so far and no one has given suggestions about how to handle it when a girl says "you're not American you're Indian!" or "hey tell me about **** related to India!"
Yes, game, fashion, frame, hygiene, etc I'm aware. However, there are a not insubstantial proportion of East Asian women (enough that "next" is not a long term solution) who are closed off to Indians regardless of game but open to Americans. So, what are some good conversational tactics? I think this would be a much more productive discussion than the race trolling statistics above.
An issue with east Asian cultures and their concept of who is Japanese, Korean, Chinese etc. is that it’s based on a person’s race. In Anglosphere countries, the identity is tied to citizenship. It doesn’t compute in their head that a person who is ethnically Indian can be British, American, Canadian etc.
I’ve had Chinese friends tell me, that if you are ethnically Chinese, that “no matter where you were born, you’re Chinese”.
The only exposure to Anglosphere cultures that many east Asians have is Hollywood movies and TV shows. Almost all major roles are played by white or black Americans, and very rarely by Indians, so they base their perceptions off that. They don’t see Indians as being American. The only way this perception would change would be if more film stars were Indian, but there’s not really a demand for it so I doubt it would happen soon.
In the US I’ve interacted extensively with FOB Asians from China, Laos, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Singapore. I try to relate it to something that they may understand. Almost all of them know of are related to east-Asians who were raised in a western country, and they know that they are different to the ones raised in their ancestral countries.
I’ve said this many times, “just like Chinese-Americans and Taiwanese are not like people from China, the same is true for British Indian and people from India. I can speak my parents’ language, and I’m proud of my background, but mentality wise I am basically British. I grew up watching British TV, I have a British sense of humour, many of my friends growing up were white British and I ate British food a lot of the time. Don’t expect me to act like a guy from India, because I don’t”. Something similar might work.
In the US I’ve asked some non-Indian Americans if they’ve seen Bend it Like Beckham, because it’s all about British Indians and the film is pretty well known in the US.