[KC4]

Lookin forward to it bojangles!! Ever since i found this forum i haven't really done any real gaming but mostly trying to improve on my skills , body and life so an addition like this your giving us is always welcome.

[WalterBlack]

(01-11-2015 12:30 PM)olspice1588 Wrote:  

(01-11-2015 10:18 AM)BTman Wrote:  

This might be off topic, but something I have always wondered. How come indians In the UK seem to do a lot of low level jobs? For example whenever I am in London I see a ton of British Indians (not fobs) working in security at airports, McDonalds, bus drivers, retail jobs (without ownership interest), waiters, etc. In the US it is very rare to see a Indian working at McDonalds, retail stores (they don't own) or TSA. Most Indians in the US seem to be some sort of professional whether it be doctor, IT, engineer, etc.

These often are second- or third-generation Indians whose parents migrated to England long before other Indians did to America.

Give it another decade or two in America, and you'll see the kids of parents (who were these highly-sought professionals you mentioned) taking on these low level jobs.

The Indians in the UK are not same types as in the US. The UK Indians are roughly half Punjabi, and half Gujurati, and there’s very few Indians from other states.

The Punjabis were mostly from villages near Jullundur in Punjab, and most of them are not educated. Very few of the original generation of immigrants from Punjab to UK are fluent in English. They all worked in blue collar jobs when in UK. Many Punjabi families are not that bothered about academics, so a lot of the kids do blue collar work too – that’s why you’ll see them working in shops or stores. You also have kids working part time whilst studying.

I have relatives who came from Punjab in the late 1950s, so there’s now Indian kids in UK whose parents were born in UK too. I have nephews and nieces who can barely speak any Punjabi, because both of their parents speak English at home. Punjabis also like to drink a lot and have a good time, so they’re pretty assimilated and a lot of them have game.

I can’t speak for the Gujuratis, but they seem more from the business background rather than farmer background like Punjabis. There’s also different waves of them – some are from India, and others are via Africa.

There’s a shit load of Indians doing skilled work too – tons of Indian doctors, lawyers, scientists, IT workers. There’s also Indian cops and strippers in UK!

As for the US, there seems to be a lot more H1-B skilled visa immigrants, so they come over as doctors, engineers, etc. The unskilled ones are the ones working in cabs, 7-11s and gas stations. I have a lot of relatives in the US and they tend to do stuff like construction, real estate, factories, smoke shops and some make a killing as truck drivers.

[amsdk]

I just read the OP and a few more posts so maybe i should add some of my

Before going on the defensive , ill start with;

1) Indians (on an average) generally have a terrible sense of western fashion - shirts/tshirts, pants and boots/shoes. But we never had a reason to adopt the latest fashion styles. First of all like someone mentioned, outdated styles reach india. Second we just dont have the cashish and a lot of middle class families are still poor to buy the latest fashion etc. Majority of students (18-22) do not earn money on the side or are given allowance. (its changing now) Back in my days when i used to go to college i used to get money only for lunch and not an iota more. That said we dont get the maxim , the cheap clothes with the proper fit looks great. (when i was a kid my dad used to buy clothes one size bigger , saying son i cant buy you clothes every year). We still own the kurtas though And indian women in saree can be quite seductive and sexy. Yes somehow the saree on a western woman looks awkward.

2) Same with hairstyle.

3) Same with fitness. Also got to do with our rice , non-existent gym culture and the IT industry. Sitting on a chair for 8-10 hours a day and then sleeping at home for 4-5 years is gonna give anyone an amazing tummy.

4) Most of the indians one would see in the USA are - middle class guys studying hard through engineering degrees to get a IT job working for 4-5 years .. getting bald , a tummy , no style , no game and then wondering why the american dream or rather the american pie dream hasnt happened yet. Or the geeks of each engineering college moving to the usa for masters/phds at all the top-100 engineering universities who dont fare any better.

Trust me - sit them down , tell them this shit doesnt work and this shit will work. They will adapt. Adapt or perish , indians are pretty good at this. Obviously there is a section of non believers.

But that being said such a huge country and how can there be no cool people. Exactly there are but you just dont/wont get to meet them since they have no reason to move or find the best available oppurtunities in india. A lot of top cool/smart/intelligent students get into IIMs (management institutes). There are students getting into the arts and science universities at the big cities who will never move out of india. I have spent time with a lot of these guys and many of them are naturals. They just dont name it game or gaming girls. We do have our own local lingo to pickup woman. This section of boys and girls represent crazy street smart , funny , sarcastic and game attitude. However this section is quite small and mostly in the cities.

In the end i believe its not so much about the race but about exposure. After about 2 years in the USA, I remember the first time i even dressed well to a friends party (didnt know game then , but for some reason got a sexy jacket/boots and did the moonwalk) an american girl dragged me to make out with me. Opened my eyes. And about the indian accent , i dont think its an issue. If she likes you , she is going to dig it. If she doesnt she is going to find it creepy. If she likes you , your food is awesome. If she doesnt like you , you are smelly. Girls like to rationalize , i like to give them reasons to make a choice Eventually i have learnt to dress well, be fit (which is important for life anyways) , talk smooth and listen to their hopes and dreams.

[WalterBlack]

This is pretty pathetic...

Quote:

Bollywood excuse helps Hobart stalker avoid conviction

A Hobart magistrate has taken into account the cultural background of a man who said Bollywood films encouraged his stalking.

Sandesh Baliga stalked one woman for 18 months and another for four months in 2012 and 2013.

The 32-year-old security guard maintained Bollywood movies contributed to his belief a woman would eventually fall in love with a man if he pursued her enough.

Baliga came to Tasmania from India to study accounting about three years ago.

The court heard Baliga texted, called and approached the women excessively, and had begun referring to himself as their boyfriend.

Hobart magistrate Michael Hill agreed Baliga's cultural background helped explain why he did not appreciate the seriousness of his actions.

His lawyer Greg Barns told the court it was "quite normal behaviour" for Indian men to pursue women in a similar way and Baliga did not realise his actions could be classed as criminal.

Mr Hill adjourned the complaint without conviction for five years on the condition Baliga was of good behaviour over that period.

He said the charges were serious but "after anxious consideration" he believed recording a conviction would affect Baliga's job prospects.

The magistrate added that Baliga was remorseful and there was a low risk of reoffending, and his guilty plea had spared the women the stress of giving evidence.

A character witness told the court Baliga acknowledged alcohol had contributed to his action and had stopped drinking.

Baliga did not object to restraint orders being imposed.

[KC4]

(01-29-2015 07:41 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

This is pretty pathetic...

Quote:

Bollywood excuse helps Hobart stalker avoid conviction

A Hobart magistrate has taken into account the cultural background of a man who said Bollywood films encouraged his stalking.

Sandesh Baliga stalked one woman for 18 months and another for four months in 2012 and 2013.

The 32-year-old security guard maintained Bollywood movies contributed to his belief a woman would eventually fall in love with a man if he pursued her enough.

Baliga came to Tasmania from India to study accounting about three years ago.

The court heard Baliga texted, called and approached the women excessively, and had begun referring to himself as their boyfriend.

Hobart magistrate Michael Hill agreed Baliga's cultural background helped explain why he did not appreciate the seriousness of his actions.

His lawyer Greg Barns told the court it was "quite normal behaviour" for Indian men to pursue women in a similar way and Baliga did not realise his actions could be classed as criminal.

Mr Hill adjourned the complaint without conviction for five years on the condition Baliga was of good behaviour over that period.

He said the charges were serious but "after anxious consideration" he believed recording a conviction would affect Baliga's job prospects.

The magistrate added that Baliga was remorseful and there was a low risk of reoffending, and his guilty plea had spared the women the stress of giving evidence.

A character witness told the court Baliga acknowledged alcohol had contributed to his action and had stopped drinking.

Baliga did not object to restraint orders being imposed.

[bojangles]

He could do with my book

[Cobra]

It's pretty weird. These Indian movies and hence these Indian guys expect that once they have the woman, after this "pursuit," they can finally be a man and she should be a woman (cooking, rearing children etc).

They miss the part where they need to be a man first; then get the woman. They also miss the concept of expecting nothing from a woman instead.

Deep inside I really think they believe indignifying themselves will yield that return so it's worth it.

And don't get me started on the bollywood obsession; "if bollywood actors do it and get success," I should too. After all these girls love those bollywood movies.

Edit: I like bollywood stuff but don't use it to earn game.

[Candlejack]

(01-30-2015 08:08 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

He could do with my book

I didn't know you had a book. I have "How To Get Laid Through Online Dating." Do you have another?

[bojangles]

(01-30-2015 03:06 PM)Candlejack Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 08:08 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

He could do with my book

I didn't know you had a book. I have "How To Get Laid Through Online Dating." Do you have another?

Not released yet, I'm spending good time and money on it to make sure it's a proper guide that's available in print and not just another ebook. Will be available this week I hope.

[Jazzman92]

One thing I've been realizing lately is that Indian dudes have many misconceptions in regards to the faithfulness and innocence of Indian girls. This one Indian girl I've seen on instagram from my friends liking her pics, works with some girl I know. She was telling me the other day how this Indian girl was bragging about fucking 3 guys in one week while she was living on campus at a University in the States. It irritates me so much when I hear my Indian buddies putting Indian girls on pedestals by say that they wanna fuck white girls and marry an Indian girl because they're inherently better and more faithful. Women are women plain and simple, Indian girls can be just as slutty as women of any other race.

[bojangles]

(01-31-2015 04:22 PM)Jazzman92 Wrote:  

One thing I've been realizing lately is that Indian dudes have many misconceptions in regards to the faithfulness and innocence of Indian girls. This one Indian girl I've seen on instagram from my friends liking her pics, works with some girl I know. She was telling me the other day how this Indian girl was bragging about fucking 3 guys in one week while she was living on campus at a University in the States. It irritates me so much when I hear my Indian buddies putting Indian girls on pedestals by say that they wanna fuck white girls and marry an Indian girl because they're inherently better and more faithful. Women are women plain and simple, Indian girls can be just as slutty as women of any other race.

There's been lots of videos in the UK over the past 2 months exposing some Sikh girls as being sluts, its been hilarious

[Jazzman92]

(01-31-2015 05:11 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

There's been lots of videos in the UK over the past 2 months exposing some Sikh girls as being sluts, its been hilarious

I think I know which ones you're talking about. Its that girl getting spit roasted right?

[thebassist]

Haven't posted in a while, but since I think I have some value to add to this thread I might as well.

This is oriented towards the second-generation Indians in this thread, whether American, British, or Australian.

Even in this thread, I see a lot of emphasis on distancing yourself from India and Indian culture in a lot of ways (in terms of style, accent, etc.), which I agree with.

On the other hand, I see a lack of people using their Indian background to their advantage, as a way of showing your worldliness, cultural insight, and general coolness. The underlying assumption of my post is that being of Indian descent, you have some familiarity with Indian culture through having family in India or visiting there yourself while growing up (as was the case for me).

Personally, I love it when girls ask about my Indian background! When girls ask you about your ties to India, they're giving you a golden opportunity for you to show your unique insights into Indian culture, and a chance to connect with the girl!

When girls ask me about my relation to India, they'll often ask how often I go back, or if I have any relatives there, where, and so on. I respond by telling them that I visit maybe once every two years or so, and that I always have a great time when I'm there just travelling around, having huge family get-togethers, and above all, eating everything in sight! I often go on a little tangent about how amazing the food is, saying how you can spend weeks there, and not even notice the fact that you haven't touched meat the whole time you've been there (since my family is based in the south). There are plenty of opportunities for jokes, e.g. you can say that it's probably a good thing that you don't live there permanently, else the food and your Indian genetics would result in the development of a little pot belly.

From this point, you can develop the conversation further, (especially if this is a more open-minded, outward-looking girl), and ask about if the girl you're talking to is interested in visiting India, which is your chance to flex your worldly skills and impress her with your knowledge and experience. I'll often tell people that India is the one country that it is impossible to have no opinion of: you can either love it or hate it, there's simply no in between. You can spend days just walking the streets without knowing whether to smile or cry at the things you're seeing. Use it as any other standard gaming situation, and integrate whatever techniques into the stories you're telling. Personally, I like to throw in a bit of vulnerability, and tell the (true) story of me walking around the slums filled with cripples, street children and the like while I was probably 7 years old and crying, unable to believe that people had to live like this.

You've now taken your target on an emotional journey (bolded for emphasis) through India, with all of the highs and lows, shown yourself to be a cultured motherfucker with a hint of vulnerability (works great for a contrast to asshole/cocky funny game), what more do you want? Proceed as usual here, and just move the conversation to other things, game on!

TL;DR: use your background like anything else in the game- as another factor to maximize your coolness and attractiveness.

Obligatory note: I'm half Indian (AKA mixed race masterrace), and thus look more European than anything. Nonetheless I see no reason why this should change the principles of anything that I've written above.

[bojangles]

(01-31-2015 07:54 PM)Jazzman92 Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 05:11 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

There's been lots of videos in the UK over the past 2 months exposing some Sikh girls as being sluts, its been hilarious

I think I know which ones you're talking about. Its that girl getting spit roasted right?

That's one and theres another one of a married girl fingering herself in a fish and chips shop in northampton

[Candlejack]

(02-01-2015 01:43 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 07:54 PM)Jazzman92 Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 05:11 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

There's been lots of videos in the UK over the past 2 months exposing some Sikh girls as being sluts, its been hilarious

I think I know which ones you're talking about. Its that girl getting spit roasted right?

That's one and theres another one of a married girl fingering herself in a fish and chips shop in northampton

This one the forum needs to see

[WalterBlack]

(02-01-2015 09:53 AM)thebassist Wrote:  

You've now taken your target on an emotional journey (bolded for emphasis) through India, with all of the highs and lows, shown yourself to be a cultured motherfucker with a hint of vulnerability (works great for a contrast to asshole/cocky funny game), what more do you want? Proceed as usual here, and just move the conversation to other things, game on!

TL;DR: use your background like anything else in the game- as another factor to maximize your coolness and attractiveness.

Obligatory note: I'm half Indian (AKA mixed race masterrace), and thus look more European than anything. Nonetheless I see no reason why this should change the principles of anything that I've written above.

In my experience India has a VERY negative image for most non-Indian women. I just don't bring it up, unless I'm specifically asked.

I met a Chinese FOB woman from POF last night, and she asked me why so many women get raped in India. I answered her question and then quickly changed the subject. Later on I was making out with her in my car, and I asked her if she wanted to sit in in my car in the first place, she said she wasn’t sure originally. I joked to her, “Don’t worry, you’re not gonna get raped!”, and she burst out laughing. I’ll try to get her over to my place in the next few days…

(02-01-2015 01:43 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 07:54 PM)Jazzman92 Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 05:11 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

There's been lots of videos in the UK over the past 2 months exposing some Sikh girls as being sluts, its been hilarious

I think I know which ones you're talking about. Its that girl getting spit roasted right?

That's one and theres another one of a married girl fingering herself in a fish and chips shop in northampton

Would you mind posting some links? I tried Googling and I couldn't find anything.

[bojangles]

Sorry lads, I got it sent to me via whatsapp haha. There was one hindu girl called Punam Mistry getting spit roasted by some dude saying 'deepeh', there's vines of that.

Anyway my book is out for release today, guys from RVF get 20% off, code is rvf. It runs out after 10 (there's not many of us) so if you miss out, just PM me.

[Cobra]

@Bojangles, Honestly, I'm real busy nowadays but managed to browse through the book. Not only is it good it's practical. You touched a lot on unlocking the barriers that come inherent to Indian guys. If you're an Indian guy that can't approach or can't dress well, as well as can't get women to respond positively, this book is gold. That being said, if you're an Indian guy, you need to work real hard to apply the game concepts in the book. Don't just fucking read it and go back to eating rice, and curry and walk by a hot girl without approaching.

Given how close I am to the content, I want to do a review soon as a priority. Please excuse the timing though due to my schedule.

One of these days I'll be in London. Hopefully Bojangles and I can grab a beer.

[bojangles]

(02-02-2015 06:16 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

@Bojangles, Honestly, I'm real busy nowadays but managed to browse through the book. Not only is it good it's practical. You touched a lot on unlocking the barriers that come inherent to Indian guys. If you're an Indian guy that can't approach or can't dress well, as well as can't get women to respond positively, this book is gold. That being said, if you're an Indian guy, you need to work real hard to apply the game concepts in the book. Don't just fucking read it and go back to eating rice, and curry and walk by a hot girl without approaching.

Given how close I am to the content, I want to do a review soon as a priority. Please excuse the timing though due to my schedule.

One of these days I'll be in London. Hopefully Bojangles and I can grab a beer.

No worries, thanks for that. I'm got it out on all platforms so if any of you have a blog and want to make affiliate income, you're welcome to using amazon. Just hope the Indian guys who pick it up, actually use it and like you say don't go back to chomping on their chapattis.

[playharder123]

Where can I get the book from

[thebassist]

(02-02-2015 04:12 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 09:53 AM)thebassist Wrote:  

You've now taken your target on an emotional journey (bolded for emphasis) through India, with all of the highs and lows, shown yourself to be a cultured motherfucker with a hint of vulnerability (works great for a contrast to asshole/cocky funny game), what more do you want? Proceed as usual here, and just move the conversation to other things, game on!

TL;DR: use your background like anything else in the game- as another factor to maximize your coolness and attractiveness.

Obligatory note: I'm half Indian (AKA mixed race masterrace), and thus look more European than anything. Nonetheless I see no reason why this should change the principles of anything that I've written above.

In my experience India has a VERY negative image for most non-Indian women. I just don't bring it up, unless I'm specifically asked.

I met a Chinese FOB woman from POF last night, and she asked me why so many women get raped in India. I answered her question and then quickly changed the subject. Later on I was making out with her in my car, and I asked her if she wanted to sit in in my car in the first place, she said she wasn’t sure originally. I joked to her, “Don’t worry, you’re not gonna get raped!”, and she burst out laughing. I’ll try to get her over to my place in the next few days…

I tend to interact mostly with smarter, more internationally minded girls so I imagine that's where the difference arises. I could definitely see India having a bad rap in the minds of most ignorant Americunts.

[Candlejack]

"Keeping your bush in check is also important;
the last thing you want
is a girl choking to death on
one of your pubes whilst
she’s giving you a blowjob."

Hahahahaha I just bought the eBook and this quote is golden

Love all the Bollywood pics too.

[bojangles]

(02-03-2015 02:31 AM)playharder123 Wrote:  

Where can I get the book from

In my signature mate.

[KC4]

I still find it hilarious that Indian guys worship white western girls. I much prefer asian girls even though it's not the norm. spent alot of my childhood years in Bangkok which is probably the reason why i have yellowfever. Swedish girls are hot but they just don't make my head turn as a hot asian girl.

[Deluge]

I'll post up a review of Desi Casanova ASAP. Might make a separate thread for the book so it gets more attention.

(02-03-2015 08:08 AM)KC4 Wrote:  

I still find it hilarious that Indian guys worship white western girls. I much prefer asian girls even though it's not the norm. spent alot of my childhood years in Bangkok which is probably the reason why i have yellowfever. Swedish girls are hot but they just don't make my head turn as a hot asian girl.

Indian men don't worship white women, they see them as inferior and as whores. They worship hot Indian women, not white women. Even most Indians born and raised in the West prefer Indian girls, especially if their social circle is mostly Indian. Same deal for Oriental men. IRT was an exception, not the rule.