I think nothing exemplifies the pure madness of GK as good as this post where he compares Czech and Polish women.

Quote: "Masturbation:Both polish and Czech women masturbate the difference is that polish ones tend to use Black dildos and love vibrators to maximum"

The persian and the greek are never well in intermixing. Eternal grudge held for the invasions of Alexander.

I'm convinced that there's a correlation between routine misuse of the space bar and commas in a post and trollish behaviors. This is merely the latest in a series of data points for me.

His posts were often hilarious, but did not offer any value for me whatsoever besides laugh factor.

That would suck to have my set blown out in that manner.

Just a thought...but maybe we could have a separate Rep system that is for meeting other members where the Rep would have to be mutual for it to be "active".

It would be interesting to learn about where these old world attitudes and ingrained beliefs originate. Is game in the west a direct result of Protestant work ethic, Adam Smith Individualism, e.g. self improvement/reliance? The beliefs and ideologies that never took hold in the east. This mentality seems antiquated and have been around for millennia.

^^ interesting train of thought, pertaining to German Bildung and French Existentialism.
On the other hand, the Greeks invented civilization.

I agree with what the membership has stated here. I laughed at what he wrote: behaviors/characteristics of races/nationalities. That being said, I never took any of it seriously.

Quote: (10-05-2014 02:59 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

GK's commentary on Eastern European ass and his historical analysis of a woman's subconscious feelings being the expression of her nation's psyche were completely outlandish yet he drew you in.

THANK YOU.

WIA

Roosh:
In a forum this size, there are bound to be at least a few bad apples in real life and it should be pretty obvious when we meet one of those people. When this happens, should the procedure be to simply send you a P.M. and explain the situation to you? I'm talking about people who are obvious problems in real life, not just guys with whom your personality doesn't jive very well.

I'm significantly more disappointed in GK now that he re-registered and posted a bullshit screed against Roosh.

I've had a similar experience to Roosh with another forum member before too. I wanted to hit the guy with a steel chair. It makes me not want to meet people in real life or to especially have them around my friends until I've really vetted them properly.

His 11+ point breakdown of the Eurocrisis was also quite a gem some time ago

Quote: (10-05-2014 04:30 PM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

^^ interesting train of thought, pertaining to German Bildung and French Existentialism.
On the other hand, the Greeks invented civilization.

I'll give you an example. I recently took a suit to a supposedly very reputable hip mens tailor, to have some advanced alterations done. I dealt with an older Indian dude. When I told him what I wanted done he ignored my requests and said it was fine, and to just shorten the sleeves. I said no, this is what I want done, and he wrote me a ticket.

Sure enough when I went to pick it up, it was only the work he suggested. I bitched and practically yelled at him. He just ignored my request because he thought he had a bigger dick. Long story short they redid everything for free, I got what I wanted, and I saved $200 when they didnt charge me for the lousy service. He lost out because of his dumb ego.

Quote: (10-05-2014 04:23 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

It would be interesting to learn about where these old world attitudes and ingrained beliefs originate. Is game in the west a direct result of Protestant work ethic, Adam Smith Individualism, e.g. self improvement/reliance? The beliefs and ideologies that never took hold in the east. This mentality seems antiquated and have been around for millennia.

Taking a big portion of this from a book

The Hidden Europe: What Eastern Europeans Can Teach Us

This is a great book BTW... its a pretty long read.. but backed up with lots of citations and might help a lot of people get a better understanding of eastern europe.

West europeans originally wanted Greece to be part of the "West" so they could use it to grasp onto the civilization aspect.( greeks supposedly creating civilization and extending it into Romans who quote Greece models often.
But.. they spend more than a millennium under byzantine rules and almost 500 years under turkish rule..Pulling them further into the east.
Greeks seem to have always tried to go where the money is.which is why they went with the Eurozone instead of Stalins communism.

Parts of the Greek chapter also talk about how Greeks are extremely critical of others...With their specific history they are afraid to lose their way or life and culture in terms of taking on other ideas.

After traveling to a few eastern european countries..communism seems to have given a reminiscing, defeatist attitude..

They constantly think about the good old days when they built civilization, but nowthat they are stuck in their situation and would rather chill out and just enjoy they day instead of going to work to build things again.
GK showed this idea in a couple of his post...and it was also shown in the Kamaki documentary, where poor greeks would just chill on the beach and bang tourist women instead of going to find jobs..
He also constantly talks about historical point
s that are well in history but don't doesnt explain anything in a current situation in terms of how to fix it
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-13081-...#pid212777
GK and many greeks know they are doing horrible.. but blame everyone else and want to be given money.

The average greek apparently doesnt want to admit it.
Who works hardest

If your mindset tells you that money solves all problems vs hard work "game"
Greek government ask for more money - Spiegel

Its not a stretch to turn to soft p4p(throwing money and gifts at a problem in order to solve it

Greeks most pessmistic in world- Gallop polls

Quote: (10-05-2014 05:29 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Taking a big portion of this from a book

thanks, thats terrific analysis

Kamaki was like comic relief. Some of his comments on locations that I've been to were so far from the reality that I saw that they were hilarious. I knew he was a fraud soon after I joined the forum, when I planned a trip to the Greek Isles using some of his "local" advice, which turned out to be completely misleading. And based on what I saw on the spot, the experiences he had would only happen if he was a wild card that stuck out from a mile away. But I will give him a lot of credit for his Balkan Power skits.

I don't think he was trying to intentionally sabotage Roosh. He was just a dreamer caught in a time warp. In the EE glory days of the early 2000s that he talks about, in Prague and Krakow "normal" club girls did approach foreigners very frequently proposing p4p after chatting for awhile, but that is rare nowadays except for in some spots in places known for that (e.g. Buddha Bar - Kiev).

On quality of wingman, i think the truism "the variance within a group is always greater than the variance between groups", is worth bearing in mind.

I think you guys are overthinking it. At the end of the day, sounds like Kamaki is an older hedonist who shamelessly does P4P and tries to pass it off as game, and got angry when he was outed.

I think the thing to remember is that it's one thing to fuck with your own reputation, and quite another thing to fuck with someone else's. The moment he crossed Roosh's reputation, he got (deservedly) fireballed.

Freezer is not Kamaki, it's Andre the gypsy.

   

He is posting about me, still, on the Happier Abroad forum as Paloaltoguy, a handle he used here.

Roosh, I'm curious about one thing, tho. Were you willing to meet with G.K. even after knowing from the forum, more or less, how he behaves? I thought that you were already screening who to meet with and who is better left by themselves.

^^ I was interested in hearing about Kamaki culture and the golden days of Eastern Europe, and thought maybe he'd have some interesting things to share. I didn't think P4P was his main game.

I'll never forget his analysis of Slavic/Greek women or cultural tidbits. It's something that did help me understand them better.

I would however disagree with his views on modern Polish gals asking dudes for money though not to mention perspective on game, lol.

Quote: (10-05-2014 06:21 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Freezer is not Kamaki, it's Andre the gypsy.



He is posting about me, still, on the Happier Abroad forum as Paloaltoguy, a handle he used here.

Jesus Christ, still? I narrowly dodged him in Wroclaw in the winter. I thought he fell off the face of the earth.

Apologies to Kamaki if I mistook some of Paul's posts for his.

Quote: (10-05-2014 09:54 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

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I'm sorry to hear that

but there are some incredible people in the world

Men don't talk like this. Females are not allowed to post here.

Slightly off topic but this person contacting me looking to fund an online MWD video course. I didn't reply but should show people to be careful over PM.

Roosh, if it's possible, I would second the suggestion above to have some sort of variation on the rep point system.

One numerical ranking for meet ups (so you can see if a guy has met 1 forum member or dozens) and a separate rep for their general contributions like we currently do.

Obviously we can't avoid all potential negative outcomes for a meet up, but it might make things a bit clearer in the future.

Quote: (10-05-2014 02:43 PM)Garzero Wrote:  

I'm 100% sure GK tried to sabotage Roosh.
First because I consider him too intelligent to ignore what he was actually doing. Second because, ehm, I shouldn't say that, but you guys know what's the most common stereotype about greek people? (answer: traitor). If a stereotype exists, there must be a reason.

No, I don't think there is such a stereotype. Your post says more about you than it does about Greek people.

Quote: (10-05-2014 09:54 AM)Garzero Wrote:  

Kamaki, pls tell me again the story of getting 2 notches per day in Kiev in 2003 with "no money involved".
Wtf.

lol..it was actually harder back then since there was less promiscuous girls. I always said he exaggerated a bit about that.

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Kamaki was like comic relief. Some of his comments on locations that I've been to were so far from the reality that I saw that they were hilarious. I knew he was a fraud soon after I joined the forum, when I planned a trip to the Greek Isles using some of his "local" advice, which turned out to be completely misleading. And based on what I saw on the spot, the experiences he had would only happen if he was a wild card that stuck out from a mile away. But I will give him a lot of credit for his Balkan Power skits.

His Kiev knowledge of the golden age was accurate but he made it sound easier than it was. It wasn't(Vorkuta said the same). TBH the golden age ended in 1999. We were the silver age.

I think I met GK back in 2002 in a bar called 111. I mentioned it to him once and he clammed up. He was sitting with a hot girl who was a well known scammer of foreigners. I think it was him because there were NO other Greeks present.

That being said, his experience with useful/useless conversation with Slavs were priceless.